EPT[Champion] Nidalee - Page 20
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tl2212
Belize731 Posts
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InfSunday
United States735 Posts
Mostly, survival in cougar form has more to do with timing. Knowing when you'll be able to jump in and chunk/kill someone is important and is what makes you a good Nid, most people will hit an acceptable amount of spears if they're playing against people their skill level. | ||
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
On April 06 2014 10:36 tl2212 wrote: hey im wondering if anyone has any tank ish nidalee builds. I am really interested in playing more of this champion but I am not a super high level so going full AP for poke doesnt seem to work. THere are a lot of times where I feel that cougar form would be awesome to move in and try to take down the kill in melee range, but when i go AP i am defenseless and die too fast. Do i just need bigger burst? or is investing in a chain vest worth it if I want to get into the front lines? There is a streamer named RFLegendary that is known for his high level bruiser nidalee. He takes ad runes and masteries, ignite, Doran's Blade, and usually rushes IBG. The rest of the build is tanky as I remember, SV, Randuin, etc., often with a BotRK depending on when, if ever, you're ahead. He also maxes E first instead of Q. The play style is different and your spears don't hurt much, and you still can't wade into a 5v5 and live for that long, but it sounds like what you were hoping for. Good peel, good stick, good utility, pretty tanky; I would only take this top lane, though. Look up RFLegendary and watch some of his gameplay to get a feel for the different play style. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On April 06 2014 14:24 InfSunday wrote: ^ This is why imo Athene's in better than a tear build on Nid because of the early magic resist (though later you do get the shield with a tear), it's also why Nid builds Zhonya's and usually takes barrier over ignite. Mostly, survival in cougar form has more to do with timing. Knowing when you'll be able to jump in and chunk/kill someone is important and is what makes you a good Nid, most people will hit an acceptable amount of spears if they're playing against people their skill level. I really like the double shield from archangel+barrier, you can get your deathcap way faster. The only downside is that you're blue buff reliant, but i never seem to have bad junglers. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
Also I'm really curious what they meant with halving the width of the projectile because it's still really easy to land (nothing like jarvan eq or shen e change). | ||
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ZataN
New Zealand414 Posts
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Bam Lee
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
How do you expect to Cougar form their backline as NIDALEE? You have no tankiness as a top laner and you do no damage as a mid laner. AP Nidalee is completely dead. Maybe you can build her AD or something now <_< | ||
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DanceSC
United States751 Posts
On June 21 2014 20:07 Figgy wrote: Her pre-6 is great now, but her post-6 is absolutely god awful. They removed all the damage from her late game spears and not only do you have to hit a Spear (Which is half the size now) to all in someone to even have a chance to 1v1 them late game, you simply have no damage output in team fights because you have to yolo in their face with no defenses or reliable escape. How do you expect to Cougar form their backline as NIDALEE? You have no tankiness as a top laner and you do no damage as a mid laner. AP Nidalee is completely dead. Maybe you can build her AD or something now <_< lol bruiser nidalee top is not as effective as ap, you have way too many hard counters, you should be going ad. I personally level the spears last with her, the traps are much more effective in winning the bruiser battles and gank awareness. | ||
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
anyway i'm experimenting with a hybrid build hextech gunblade, iceborne, wits end, then boots and tanky items 21/9/0 getting cdr double edged sword and executioner with AP and AD damage but not the % ones on either then the hybrid pen hybrid reds, lane dependent yellows/blues and AD quints, it feels pretty stronger wherever you play it honestly, feels a lot like bruiser kassadin | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
Summoner Spell: Flash/TP. Split push forever. Only TP to team if you draw someone top for a 5v4. Masteries: 21/9/0 Runes: 3 AD Quints, 9 Hybrid Pen marks, 5 flat health seals + 4 scaling armor seals, 9 flat MR gylph or 9 scaling MR glyphs (depending on AD or AP opponent) | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
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ZataN
New Zealand414 Posts
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
On July 08 2014 13:15 ZataN wrote: Probably don't need that gunblade. You have a heal in your kit. yeah but it lets you trade a lot longer, for me its a trade off between, bursting someone down out right, or out sustaining then, then bursting them. you shouldn't be using your heal much if you go a more modern nidalee build/playstyle. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
With regards to the triforce/ibg/gunblade builds, I feel like the AD is rather wasted. Every time I check the end game damage to champions, it shows me that between 80 and 90% of my damage is magic. So I hate building things that are primarily physical damage items because I don't think Nidalee is making good use of those stats. I do feel like she needs a slow. I should probably incorporate rylai's into my build. It'd help me chase better. | ||
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