• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:43
CEST 18:43
KST 01:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week8[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17
StarCraft 2
General
Heaven's Balance Suggestions (roast me) Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. Who will win EWC 2025? Why doesnt SC2 scene costream tournaments RSL Season 1 - Final Week
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Corsair Pursuit Micro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pro gamer house photos Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread BWCL Season 63 Announcement
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 791 users

Photon Cannon Overcharge on pylons

Forum Index > Legacy of the Void
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Hashbrown
Profile Joined September 2015
10 Posts
September 04 2015 05:04 GMT
#1
The latest patch added the ability of MSC to overcharge pylons for 25 energy. Watched Avilo's stream. He did some pylon/MSC/adept rush on the enemy's base. Needless to say, 3 pylons on overcharge in the enemy's base as Avilo put it "protoss is so OP pylons can kill your opponent".
WhiteLuminous
Profile Joined July 2015
43 Posts
September 04 2015 05:08 GMT
#2
A sort-of solution would be to make it only work on the super pylons, but I feel like the level of band-aiding is just ridiculously out of control at this point. MSC should just be entirely removed (or at least overcharge) and the race balanced around not having a 1-click magical defense.

The strength and ridiculousness of the offensive overcharge makes me wonder what kind of internal testing they got going there because if nobody imagined this being a problem, I question either their effort or their intelligence.
AkashSky
Profile Joined May 2014
United States257 Posts
September 04 2015 05:08 GMT
#3
Well its beta. I'm sure they will fix this next week, but until then enjoy getting killed or killing with pylons.
Asturas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland587 Posts
September 04 2015 05:10 GMT
#4
I absolutely don't understand reasons behind overcharge on pylons. This is imo ridiculous.
There are no boundaries, that's the final conclusion.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 04 2015 05:15 GMT
#5
it's awful to play against
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 04 2015 05:24 GMT
#6
temporary tesla coils! :D :D

what original ideas will they think of next
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 05:36:43
September 04 2015 05:34 GMT
#7
Pylon rush... Can't believe we are seeing this BS become a realitiy...

[image loading]



On September 04 2015 14:24 y0su wrote:
temporary tesla coils! :D :D

what original ideas will they think of next


This is what we get when we let C&C fuck up with StarCraft...
xevis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States218 Posts
September 04 2015 05:43 GMT
#8
Looks totally legit to me you guys.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
DuckloadBlackra
Profile Joined July 2011
225 Posts
September 04 2015 05:48 GMT
#9
LMAO is Blizzard trolling for the lols or what
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
September 04 2015 06:12 GMT
#10
just make it work as a shield battery instead of damage plz
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Sogetsu
Profile Joined July 2011
514 Posts
September 04 2015 06:12 GMT
#11
On September 04 2015 14:08 WhiteLuminous wrote:
A sort-of solution would be to make it only work on the super pylons, but I feel like the level of band-aiding is just ridiculously out of control at this point. MSC should just be entirely removed (or at least overcharge) and the race balanced around not having a 1-click magical defense.

The strength and ridiculousness of the offensive overcharge makes me wonder what kind of internal testing they got going there because if nobody imagined this being a problem, I question either their effort or their intelligence.


Absolutely agree, it could be a solution the first thing but would still be a super band-aid over another band-aid, or well, a band-aid involving danger to a "fixed" mechanic.

I still think Recall should be as a Spell on Nexus instead Mother Core and boom there you have your Nexus Energy agani (because Chrono is like MULEs no, non energy based)


Raptor: "Es hora de salvar a los E-Sports..." http://i3.minus.com/ibtne3liprtByB.png
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 04 2015 06:16 GMT
#12
On September 04 2015 15:12 IeZaeL wrote:
just make it work as a shield battery instead of damage plz


This is a much better idea.
I can take that responsibility.
Bohemond
Profile Joined May 2012
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 07:58:50
September 04 2015 07:56 GMT
#13
Literally the first thing I thought when I read the patch notes was 'pylon rush.' I don't get how these types of things get past the brainstorm stage. I had to reread the post twice when I saw it only cost 25 energy. Didn't believe... But, same guys who made the Warhound, Cyclone, and tried to buff DT speed.

I can't even imagine how hard it is to take a 3rd as Zerg right now...
Bohemond
Profile Joined May 2012
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 07:57:30
September 04 2015 07:57 GMT
#14
Double Post. I'm embarrassed
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
September 04 2015 08:05 GMT
#15
the solution is to put overcharge back to Nexus.
Big Red Dog!
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 04 2015 08:07 GMT
#16
Feels exactly like the type of bullshit protoss has been deploying since 1998. Just fits the protoss identity perfectly.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5586 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 09:00:49
September 04 2015 09:00 GMT
#17
Wow, really? I'm already enjoying the ability to spam copious amounts of Pylons in my opponent's base, talk about supersizing it!

On September 04 2015 17:07 Big J wrote:
Feels exactly like the type of bullshit protoss has been deploying since 1998. Just fits the protoss identity perfectly.

Amen.
don't wall off against random
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands677 Posts
September 04 2015 09:45 GMT
#18
Brain farts like this actually make me want to avoid LotV.

Which is a shame, because I think that by the time LotV is released it will be an ok game, and a few patches will fine-tune it. I just wish I was oblivious about the design boo-boo's that happened along the way.
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
September 04 2015 09:51 GMT
#19
It was the same fricking thing with Adepts (still not fixed). Blizz buffs them but never thinks to try and abuse them internally to see if they are a problem. I honestly think that when they play-test the game they are under orders to not cheese, but to go for standard macro builds.

It is not so hard with supporting units such as Adepts and Zealots to drop 3 pylons in the enemies base and PO them.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
September 04 2015 11:18 GMT
#20
Buildings being able to attack is an Ork thing. Blizzard should stay true to Protoss original design : the Eldars (looks and design wise).
Pylons = nerfed webway gate with a plasma generator skin. Just make the protoss pylon a real webway gate : http://dow.wikia.com/wiki/Dawn_of_War/Webway_Gate
rly ?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mcanning 299
BRAT_OK 105
UpATreeSC 92
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 3801
Jaedong 2340
Barracks 2244
Mini 1085
EffOrt 1021
BeSt 659
Soma 581
Stork 483
firebathero 368
Snow 306
[ Show more ]
Larva 281
Zeus 245
Free 144
Hyun 111
Mind 106
Rush 101
Sharp 53
TY 51
soO 41
Shine 33
zelot 32
Shinee 29
Movie 26
sorry 23
scan(afreeca) 21
Terrorterran 16
Yoon 15
SilentControl 9
ivOry 4
Dota 2
canceldota91
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1486
flusha197
allub154
fl0m43
Other Games
FrodaN1775
Beastyqt643
ceh9371
KnowMe126
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 40
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki39
• FirePhoenix3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3076
• WagamamaTV714
League of Legends
• Nemesis5376
• TFBlade745
Other Games
• Shiphtur321
Upcoming Events
Esports World Cup
17h 17m
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
1d 17h
Esports World Cup
2 days
Esports World Cup
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
5 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.