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On September 06 2015 21:07 Nyast wrote:
Here's an idea:
- remove the MScore ( or keep it only for recall ? )
- bring back energy on nexus ( not for chronos, only for PO ).
- nexus can cast PO on any pylon within a 9 range
- ability costs 50 energy
Consequence: no more agressive pylons PO shit, while keeping a pretty strong defense.
Fairly obvious idea. I do not mean this as a dig towards you - but why the hell do the people paid to design and balance the game come up with dumb ass ideas but some community members come up with perfectly sound alternatives.
All of us said that PO would be used offensively, adding more gimmicks to the gimmicky race. Kimbo, this is where the perception of Protoss being a gimmicky race originates from - you and your teams ideas.
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On September 06 2015 21:54 DeadByDawn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 21:07 Nyast wrote:
Here's an idea:
- remove the MScore ( or keep it only for recall ? )
- bring back energy on nexus ( not for chronos, only for PO ).
- nexus can cast PO on any pylon within a 9 range
- ability costs 50 energy
Consequence: no more agressive pylons PO shit, while keeping a pretty strong defense.
Fairly obvious idea. I do not mean this as a dig towards you - but why the hell do the people paid to design and balance the game come up with dumb ass ideas but some community members come up with perfectly sound alternatives. All of us said that PO would be used offensively, adding more gimmicks to the gimmicky race. Kimbo, this is where the perception of Protoss being a gimmicky race originates from - you and your teams ideas.
Thing is the fact that someone mentioned this solution is bad, because Blizzard will do anything to appear smart and independent and not use a solution someone else already suggested. I'm ready to bet the next iteration will be "mothership core can only cast overcharge on pylons that are powered by a Nexus", adding their own unnecessarily complicated twist to the most elegant solution.
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Avilo finds everything OP except for terran mech. Terran mech is, in fact, the weakest composition ever, that's why all terrans are winning every tvz.
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Could blizzard make it so that you can overcharge a super pylon? Seems like a stupidly obviously fix.
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On September 06 2015 22:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 21:54 DeadByDawn wrote:On September 06 2015 21:07 Nyast wrote:
Here's an idea:
- remove the MScore ( or keep it only for recall ? )
- bring back energy on nexus ( not for chronos, only for PO ).
- nexus can cast PO on any pylon within a 9 range
- ability costs 50 energy
Consequence: no more agressive pylons PO shit, while keeping a pretty strong defense.
Fairly obvious idea. I do not mean this as a dig towards you - but why the hell do the people paid to design and balance the game come up with dumb ass ideas but some community members come up with perfectly sound alternatives. All of us said that PO would be used offensively, adding more gimmicks to the gimmicky race. Kimbo, this is where the perception of Protoss being a gimmicky race originates from - you and your teams ideas. Thing is the fact that someone mentioned this solution is bad, because Blizzard will do anything to appear smart and independent and not use a solution someone else already suggested. I'm ready to bet the next iteration will be "mothership core can only cast overcharge on pylons that are powered by a Nexus", adding their own unnecessarily complicated twist to the most elegant solution.
Isn't the current disruptor essentially a community suggestion?
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On September 06 2015 22:47 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 22:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 06 2015 21:54 DeadByDawn wrote:On September 06 2015 21:07 Nyast wrote:
Here's an idea:
- remove the MScore ( or keep it only for recall ? )
- bring back energy on nexus ( not for chronos, only for PO ).
- nexus can cast PO on any pylon within a 9 range
- ability costs 50 energy
Consequence: no more agressive pylons PO shit, while keeping a pretty strong defense.
Fairly obvious idea. I do not mean this as a dig towards you - but why the hell do the people paid to design and balance the game come up with dumb ass ideas but some community members come up with perfectly sound alternatives. All of us said that PO would be used offensively, adding more gimmicks to the gimmicky race. Kimbo, this is where the perception of Protoss being a gimmicky race originates from - you and your teams ideas. Thing is the fact that someone mentioned this solution is bad, because Blizzard will do anything to appear smart and independent and not use a solution someone else already suggested. I'm ready to bet the next iteration will be "mothership core can only cast overcharge on pylons that are powered by a Nexus", adding their own unnecessarily complicated twist to the most elegant solution. Isn't the current disruptor essentially a community suggestion?
They try hard to look smart and independent, coming up with their own very personal ideas, but sometimes even they have to admit their very personal ideas were shit  .
I'm pretty sure in the end LotV will be OK, maybe even good, but God is the process slow and painful. So much time wasted.
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On September 06 2015 23:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 22:47 KeksX wrote:On September 06 2015 22:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 06 2015 21:54 DeadByDawn wrote:On September 06 2015 21:07 Nyast wrote:
Here's an idea:
- remove the MScore ( or keep it only for recall ? )
- bring back energy on nexus ( not for chronos, only for PO ).
- nexus can cast PO on any pylon within a 9 range
- ability costs 50 energy
Consequence: no more agressive pylons PO shit, while keeping a pretty strong defense.
Fairly obvious idea. I do not mean this as a dig towards you - but why the hell do the people paid to design and balance the game come up with dumb ass ideas but some community members come up with perfectly sound alternatives. All of us said that PO would be used offensively, adding more gimmicks to the gimmicky race. Kimbo, this is where the perception of Protoss being a gimmicky race originates from - you and your teams ideas. Thing is the fact that someone mentioned this solution is bad, because Blizzard will do anything to appear smart and independent and not use a solution someone else already suggested. I'm ready to bet the next iteration will be "mothership core can only cast overcharge on pylons that are powered by a Nexus", adding their own unnecessarily complicated twist to the most elegant solution. Isn't the current disruptor essentially a community suggestion? They try hard to look smart and independent, coming up with their own very personal ideas, but sometimes even they have to admit their very personal ideas were shit . I'm pretty sure in the end LotV will be OK, maybe even good, but God is the process slow and painful. So much time wasted.
That's the reason the lurker didn't come back until LotV, because the community requested it too often. Same thing with the reaver. Errr, disruptor.
Blizzard only wants the community to give feedback on problems, not suggest solutions. They don't want to implement community suggested solutions.
Blizzard, please buff colossus. It will solve so much.
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Anything that punish pure greed like 3 hatch opening or nexus first is good for the game.
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On September 06 2015 23:34 Klowney wrote:
Anything that punish pure greed like 3 hatch opening or nexus first is good for the game.
Lol you think pylon rushing only work against builds like that, thats cute.
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I held it with 3h, but there's probably better versions out there that kill 3h easily.
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On September 06 2015 23:25 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 23:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 06 2015 22:47 KeksX wrote:On September 06 2015 22:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 06 2015 21:54 DeadByDawn wrote:On September 06 2015 21:07 Nyast wrote:
Here's an idea:
- remove the MScore ( or keep it only for recall ? )
- bring back energy on nexus ( not for chronos, only for PO ).
- nexus can cast PO on any pylon within a 9 range
- ability costs 50 energy
Consequence: no more agressive pylons PO shit, while keeping a pretty strong defense.
Fairly obvious idea. I do not mean this as a dig towards you - but why the hell do the people paid to design and balance the game come up with dumb ass ideas but some community members come up with perfectly sound alternatives. All of us said that PO would be used offensively, adding more gimmicks to the gimmicky race. Kimbo, this is where the perception of Protoss being a gimmicky race originates from - you and your teams ideas. Thing is the fact that someone mentioned this solution is bad, because Blizzard will do anything to appear smart and independent and not use a solution someone else already suggested. I'm ready to bet the next iteration will be "mothership core can only cast overcharge on pylons that are powered by a Nexus", adding their own unnecessarily complicated twist to the most elegant solution. Isn't the current disruptor essentially a community suggestion? They try hard to look smart and independent, coming up with their own very personal ideas, but sometimes even they have to admit their very personal ideas were shit . I'm pretty sure in the end LotV will be OK, maybe even good, but God is the process slow and painful. So much time wasted. Blizzard only wants the community to give feedback on problems, not suggest solutions. They don't want to implement community suggested solutions.
I don't see why... That looks a lot like misplaced pride. It's not even like most community suggested solutions that would genuinely improve the situation are far-fetched or very refined.
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Everybody talks about pylons overcharged (which we all know will be fixed) but what scares me most is that 9 range of colossi. Once again I'm a ball toss player ....
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On September 07 2015 00:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 23:25 andrewlt wrote:On September 06 2015 23:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 06 2015 22:47 KeksX wrote:On September 06 2015 22:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 06 2015 21:54 DeadByDawn wrote:On September 06 2015 21:07 Nyast wrote:
Here's an idea:
- remove the MScore ( or keep it only for recall ? )
- bring back energy on nexus ( not for chronos, only for PO ).
- nexus can cast PO on any pylon within a 9 range
- ability costs 50 energy
Consequence: no more agressive pylons PO shit, while keeping a pretty strong defense.
Fairly obvious idea. I do not mean this as a dig towards you - but why the hell do the people paid to design and balance the game come up with dumb ass ideas but some community members come up with perfectly sound alternatives. All of us said that PO would be used offensively, adding more gimmicks to the gimmicky race. Kimbo, this is where the perception of Protoss being a gimmicky race originates from - you and your teams ideas. Thing is the fact that someone mentioned this solution is bad, because Blizzard will do anything to appear smart and independent and not use a solution someone else already suggested. I'm ready to bet the next iteration will be "mothership core can only cast overcharge on pylons that are powered by a Nexus", adding their own unnecessarily complicated twist to the most elegant solution. Isn't the current disruptor essentially a community suggestion? They try hard to look smart and independent, coming up with their own very personal ideas, but sometimes even they have to admit their very personal ideas were shit . I'm pretty sure in the end LotV will be OK, maybe even good, but God is the process slow and painful. So much time wasted. Blizzard only wants the community to give feedback on problems, not suggest solutions. They don't want to implement community suggested solutions. I don't see why... That looks a lot like misplaced pride. It's not even like most community suggested solutions that would genuinely improve the situation are far-fetched or very refined.
yeah, I remember the post about economics and how it should be in lotv that was basically the length and complexity of a phD thesis, and blizzard answered "lol, cute, nope !"
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Things like this are irrefutable proof that the Blizz design team not a freaking clue of what are they doing.
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That 25 energy man, that's the worst part.
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On September 06 2015 23:57 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 23:34 Klowney wrote:
Anything that punish pure greed like 3 hatch opening or nexus first is good for the game. Lol you think pylon rushing only work against builds like that, thats cute.
I didn't say that. Most people want it removed, I want it to punish greed.
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On September 07 2015 00:41 Belha wrote:
Things like this are irrefutable proof that the Blizz design team not a freaking clue of what are they doing.
Anyone remember the shredder, the T unit that Blizz showcased for HotS? It remained underground until the enemy came in range and then raised up and irradiated an area. It was a great idea, it would help T defend the mineral line, ramps, etc against ling runbys.
Never made it to the game because Blizzard found that everyone was dropping it in the enemy mineral line - that is instead of using it defensively they used it offensively.
So now they introduce cheap PO for pylons for defence and guess what people use it for ...
Working for Blizz is like being the mortician in the Men in Black movie. At the end of each release they wipe the memories of the design and balance teams.
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We don't even have to compare it to another unit. They did this with the ability that photon overcharge evolved into and it was a bad idea then too.
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