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LotV closed beta announced to start on March 31 - Page 8

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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 18 2015 18:06 GMT
#141
On March 19 2015 03:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Lurkers can outrange photon cannons?

Didn't they outrange them in BW?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Finnz
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom260 Posts
March 18 2015 18:06 GMT
#142
And so it begins.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 18 2015 18:06 GMT
#143
On March 19 2015 03:05 Redfish wrote:
Nydus worms unable to take damage until they're done spawning? So a Zerg can create it right in range of a Photon cannon with impunity? What on earth?

Here come the Ravager/Nydus rushes to crush any hope of Protoss playing for an economic opening. If neither Forcefields nor solid base defense can keep enemies out, then what else can we be expected to rely on to survive?

Nydus being expensive?

I don't like the full invulnerability either, seems like a failsafe way to deal damage...
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1923 Posts
March 18 2015 18:06 GMT
#144
I'm pretty glad Blizzard at least seems to be way more open this time regarding community feedback! Want that beta key asap, but I really hope cyclone design will be altered. Still, if this is no premature april fool's, I'm VERY curious how this'll turn out.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 18:07:37
March 18 2015 18:06 GMT
#145
On March 19 2015 03:05 Redfish wrote:
Nydus worms unable to take damage until they're done spawning? So a Zerg can create it right in range of a Photon cannon with impunity? What on earth?

Here come the Ravager/Nydus rushes to crush any hope of Protoss playing for an economic opening. If neither Forcefields nor solid base defense can keep enemies out, then what else can we be expected to rely on to survive?


Holy shit i didnt see that. It could very possibly mean the end of FFE, which is sad Currently the only way to defend nydus type of allins with FFE is to kill the worm before it spawns
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
March 18 2015 18:07 GMT
#146
I hope LotV changes many things. I cant see anymore that 200 vs 200 fights only take 2sec and I hope we dont see tenthousend times 200 vs 200 fights in a game (feels like wave into next wave on both sides endless times).
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
March 18 2015 18:08 GMT
#147
On March 19 2015 03:06 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:05 Redfish wrote:
Nydus worms unable to take damage until they're done spawning? So a Zerg can create it right in range of a Photon cannon with impunity? What on earth?

Here come the Ravager/Nydus rushes to crush any hope of Protoss playing for an economic opening. If neither Forcefields nor solid base defense can keep enemies out, then what else can we be expected to rely on to survive?


Holy shit i didnt see that. It could very possibly mean the end of FFE, which is sad Currently the only way to defend nydus type of allins with FFE is to kill the worm before it spawns

Like the 2011 days of WoL, FFE or die trying.
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 18 2015 18:08 GMT
#148
Seems like a better solution to the nydus would be to make it cloaked then uncloaked when it is ready
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ANLProbe
Profile Joined October 2013
667 Posts
March 18 2015 18:08 GMT
#149
On March 19 2015 03:06 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Lurkers can outrange photon cannons?

Didn't they outrange them in BW?


No
Go TAEJA
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
March 18 2015 18:08 GMT
#150
GIVE ME BETA NAO!!!
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 18:09:37
March 18 2015 18:08 GMT
#151
On March 19 2015 03:04 Elentos wrote:
The Adept looks awesome but the attack looks puny :/



Agreed. A lot of units and their attacks in SC2 don't feel powerful T_T

Also: It does look like it 2 shots an SCV, which gives us some idea of how strong it is in terms of damage.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45253 Posts
March 18 2015 18:09 GMT
#152
New corruptor ability = new tempest ability?
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MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
March 18 2015 18:09 GMT
#153
Am i the only one who feels like the worker change is ridiculous and shows Blizzard has no idea why SC2 isnt as successful as MOBAs?

Like, really, at this point Blizzard thinks what separates SC2 from Moba popularity is the slow early game?

Not the lack of diversity/strategy/buildpaths/options?

Brood War was LOVED for over a decade, and it wasnt because it was a faster paced game..if anything you could argue it was a slower paced game... but thats what made it a more active game IMO. Because the beginning is so slower paced you saw good players trying to use the early game, when they had the spare APM/time... to get something done. Where they could choose to be safe and greedy, or aggressive and hoping to impact enough that their aggro paid off?

Meh... i feel like the worker change is Blizzard openly acknowledging they dont know how to design this game.

That being said... i still am going to play LotV as it seems like Zerg is getting a lot of options with roaches being upgradable.

Protoss is getting options with the Adept unit seeming decent enough to not force a colossus every game..hopefully. or at least have a standing army early that is able to leave the base without Colossus overlords for protection.

Dont really have an opinion on terran..as ive given up on the race that has those ridiculous mines that are the epitome of not fun.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 18 2015 18:10 GMT
#154
On March 19 2015 03:07 Dingodile wrote:
I hope LotV changes many things. I cant see anymore that 200 vs 200 fights only take 2sec and I hope we dont see tenthousend times 200 vs 200 fights in a game (feels like wave into next wave on both sides endless times).

Unless they completely changed the game design from scratch, 200 v 200 fights will always take 2 seconds and decide games. That will never leave SC2
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
March 18 2015 18:10 GMT
#155
there's a youtube video


Templar, you should put this in the OP
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 18 2015 18:10 GMT
#156
On March 19 2015 02:44 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 02:41 HelloSon wrote:
On March 19 2015 02:30 Swisslink wrote:
Wait...

Oracle
Stasis Ward: This ability places a cloaked Stasis Ward on the ground which, upon detonation, will explode and trap nearby enemy units in stasis for 30 seconds.


30 seconds? Seriously? xD
This one has to be a typo, right? xD

More abilities that take away micro


I don't care about that, tbh. But 30 seconds in realtime is just... ridiculous? Isn't it? :o

I don't think it's as bad as the other crowd control spells.

iirc, units can't be attacked when under stasis. There is a setup time required for the mine, and afaik it can be destroyed with detection or preemptively detonated like a Window Mine. It might also friendly fire if friendly units are in the area when an enemy detonates it. Unless I'm mistaken about some of this.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 18 2015 18:10 GMT
#157
The new Viper spell looks SICK ! Love it. A bit afraid about the freeze of the oracle though. And did they remove the other infestor spell that doubled the damage done to the opponent's units ?
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MonkeyBot
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
March 18 2015 18:11 GMT
#158
I'm a zerg and maybe I shouldn't say this, but perhaps Nydus worms should have very heavy armor while spawning instead of invulnerability? Say, enough armor for the worm to be killed if 2 cannons and a full worker surround are on it from the start?

It would add an interesting strategic opportunity for the Zerg since they could draw fire with the worm while their main army attacks elsewhere. Thoughts?
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 18 2015 18:11 GMT
#159
On March 19 2015 03:08 purakushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:04 Elentos wrote:
The Adept looks awesome but the attack looks puny :/



Agreed. A lot of units and their attacks in SC2 don't feel powerful T_T

Also: It does look like it 2 shots an SCV, which gives us some idea of how strong it is in terms of damage.


For a puny protoss, I pack a big...
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
March 18 2015 18:12 GMT
#160
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