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[Patch 10.23] Preseason Item Update Bonanza - Page 2

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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 12 2020 02:16 GMT
#21
So once you hit level 13, and by the stirring wardstone, if you haven't upgraded it already because you're bad at warding, you can just dump wards in fountain to hit the requirement which is rather amusing.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
mirandasolis
Profile Joined November 2020
United States1 Post
November 12 2020 06:16 GMT
#22
--- Nuked ---
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 12 2020 10:47 GMT
#23
goredrinker trundle


Not entirely sure about that item tbh. The description sounds strong, but compared to how broken some of the other items are...

Riot needs to heavily nerf the DoT items, they are mindbogglingly broken with DoT champions. Brand and Lillia can half health non-tanks with a single ability, because the DoT from items are proced by DoT abilities. This interaction existed before, but now there are 2 very strong DoT items... Someone has written 'lol' or 'wtf' every single game someone has died to a DoT burn that lasts for 8 seconds.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
November 12 2020 12:48 GMT
#24
On November 11 2020 09:20 Uldridge wrote:
The tank mythics feel... bad?


Riot taking mana off every tank item making them way more accessible for bruisers but way worse on tanks...hmmm
Que Sera Sera
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
November 12 2020 12:54 GMT
#25
I think I might actually play this game in 2021. Especially if Riven ends up being a solid jungler like the subreddit is hype about.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8647 Posts
November 12 2020 15:43 GMT
#26
after a couple games my thoughts are that mages at the moment suck hard.
you cant position yourself at all against melee ad champs that go prowlers or gale. after your first mythic item which is usually just gonna be something like ludens you have too many items you need to go. need zhonyas because you cant survive without it, cosmic is great with helping repositioning but you also need morellos because everyone is life stealing like crazy and eventually you still need horizon/void/deathcap to be doing dmg as well.
the burden on the player to make mages work seems WAY higher than the other champs
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 12 2020 16:51 GMT
#27
I thought assassins were broken. Then I tried Karthus with Night Harvester. lol
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 12 2020 18:10 GMT
#28
ADC feels to be in a similar position imo, they can't buy certain stats fast enough. For example, the separation of ArPen and Grievous Wounds is actually pretty huge, yeah Mortal Reminder gives AS, AD and crit, but it's only 20 AD so it seems an awful 2nd or 3rd item. It's the same case with Dominik's Regard, it gives AD, crit and ArPen, but only 30 AD for 2900 gold, so also seems stupid to get as 2nd or 3rd item. That's 50 AD if you buy both items, Mundo laughs at your crits. In comparison IE gives you 70 AD.

I guess if the opponent team has a tank you have no choice but to go Kraken Slayer as your Mythic item? It's basically a mini Vayne W accessible to every ADC.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4763 Posts
November 12 2020 21:05 GMT
#29
Apparently Ashe with Guinsoo's is quite strong.
Taxes are for Terrans
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 12 2020 23:09 GMT
#30
That interaction is getting hot fixed today or tomorrow, it's not intentional.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 12 2020 23:10 GMT
#31
On November 13 2020 03:10 DarkCore wrote:
ADC feels to be in a similar position imo, they can't buy certain stats fast enough. For example, the separation of ArPen and Grievous Wounds is actually pretty huge, yeah Mortal Reminder gives AS, AD and crit, but it's only 20 AD so it seems an awful 2nd or 3rd item. It's the same case with Dominik's Regard, it gives AD, crit and ArPen, but only 30 AD for 2900 gold, so also seems stupid to get as 2nd or 3rd item. That's 50 AD if you buy both items, Mundo laughs at your crits. In comparison IE gives you 70 AD.

I guess if the opponent team has a tank you have no choice but to go Kraken Slayer as your Mythic item? It's basically a mini Vayne W accessible to every ADC.

Just go Eclipse or Divine Sunderer. :^)

I'm starting to think Kraken Slayer is going to be the goto for all adcs unless they are assassin heavy. The +10% AS per item is so much value it's actually insane. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Kraken Slayer->Rageblade is going to be a standard build for most adcs, crit takes a year to scale now since you need so many items for IE to be worth it.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-13 01:19:01
November 12 2020 23:38 GMT
#32
New shop is annoying. Everything looks the same, and a big contributor to that IMO is that almost every single item has the glowing fog coming out of it. If they got rid of that fog and put the items onto flat, dark/light backgrounds(dependant on item color), it'd be a lot better. They look okay scaled up, but once you shrink it clarity is awful.

EDIT: Looked at current items and they have the same fog, so I think it's just me griping about having to relearn what everything looks like. The palette could be better though, a lot of items have the same coloring scheme.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
November 13 2020 02:09 GMT
#33
On November 13 2020 08:38 Amui wrote:
New shop is annoying. Everything looks the same, and a big contributor to that IMO is that almost every single item has the glowing fog coming out of it. If they got rid of that fog and put the items onto flat, dark/light backgrounds(dependant on item color), it'd be a lot better. They look okay scaled up, but once you shrink it clarity is awful.

EDIT: Looked at current items and they have the same fog, so I think it's just me griping about having to relearn what everything looks like. The palette could be better though, a lot of items have the same coloring scheme.


I think there's some reasoning behind the items having the same colour scheme.

E.g: Grievous wounds = sickly green
Que Sera Sera
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 13 2020 03:27 GMT
#34
I just wish we could search "mythic" and get the full list of them.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 13 2020 05:25 GMT
#35
Preseason is simultaneously too radical and not radical enough. Items aren't really the problem, dragon, herald, and baron are.
Freeeeeeedom
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-14 06:14:44
November 14 2020 06:11 GMT
#36
If you're playing Jayce, and take CDR runes, with duskblade, CDR boots, umbral and navori quickblades, you can Q, E at max range (late) and then walk up to the gate for a second Q. Pretty abusive in ARAM where you can pretty reasonably get to those items, and walk up to the gate. 108% CDR. Some other item combos can get you to 110, but the timing is very tight either way.

If you add on another CDR item, you can now pretty comfortably QE on top of yourself, and get a second empowered shockblast.

Admittedly it takes 3 full items+ boots to barely be able to do the first bit, and parts of a 4th to make it feel smooth, but it's a little bit of old pokey Jayce with dual Q's from a single shock blast.

You also don't really sacrifice much either, you'll have good amounts of arpen/AD, and can go a bunch of different ways from there.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8647 Posts
November 14 2020 08:28 GMT
#37
On November 13 2020 14:25 cLutZ wrote:
Preseason is simultaneously too radical and not radical enough. Items aren't really the problem, dragon, herald, and baron are.

i agree with this statement. herald imo is the biggest offender. the snowball you get from chunking half a tower and getting gold is too oppressive. maybe they should let you do dmg to herald from the front once you cast him, because solo laners literally cant do anything but watch.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
November 14 2020 08:29 GMT
#38
Which gives more mana if you have to pick just one, manaflow or presence?
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8647 Posts
November 14 2020 09:18 GMT
#39
manaband for max mana. presence for mana sustain
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 14 2020 09:22 GMT
#40
Manaflow is good for lane, PoM is better for team fights where you spend a lot of mana quickly. Kass, Cass are entirely dependent on PoM atm because of how little mana is available to them. A champ like Viktor prefers Manaflow because it lets him dominate lane.
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