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[Patch 10.14] Zed W Nerf Revert General Discussion

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
July 08 2020 01:54 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

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Patch 10.14: Live on July. 8. 2020

Team Fight Tactics Patch 10.14 Live on July. 8, 2020

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[url=https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/549242-patch-913-team-fight-tactics-general-discussion]Patch 9.13 Team Fight Tactics Release General Discussion
Que Sera Sera
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
July 08 2020 01:59 GMT
#2
Lillia was also announced today. Here are some links to catch up on her release news:

Champion Teaser (Video)

Lillia - Champion Insights

Lillia - Abilities Rundown
Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
July 08 2020 08:58 GMT
#3
REPORT IN CHAMP SELECT IS FINALLY LIVE, YESSSSSSS

Lillia seems a bit boring compared to everything we've seen before. Also watching Bambi hit people with a stick just doesn't feel right.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
July 08 2020 13:53 GMT
#4
Played Zed (albeit in ARAM). The W nerf revert feels so much smoother.
Que Sera Sera
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-08 17:46:44
July 08 2020 17:39 GMT
#5
Tried Lillia a little bit. She felt surprisingly fun had this OG League feel to her, which I love and really seems like a champion they can balance instead of being OP/soloQ stomper or useless.

Lane Karthus buffs. <3
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4171 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-09 06:32:52
July 09 2020 06:32 GMT
#6
Darius with the new ghost+nimbus is so outplayable xD. You either play a champion who can beat him toe to toe or you...dont :-)
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 09 2020 17:04 GMT
#7
Is there a meme about mastery level 6 in EUW? I just find it curious that Ratirl and Bauss are lvl 6 mastery witch is obviously by choice for them
Carrilord has arrived.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-10 01:59:25
July 10 2020 01:58 GMT
#8
On July 10 2020 02:04 Slusher wrote:
Is there a meme about mastery level 6 in EUW? I just find it curious that Ratirl and Bauss are lvl 6 mastery witch is obviously by choice for them

Mastery 7 is a badge of shame unless you're rank 1 chall. But most importantly the purple power of mastery 6 is OP.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 10 2020 17:36 GMT
#9
Lol I always do the opposite, back in halo 2, you had ranks that would display one was for your rank and the other was number of games played at the current rank. Of the current rank the maximum rank was called staff sergeant and so staff sergeant was essentially the “hard stuck” insult of Xbox live circa 2004/2005.

Anyway I always call people with 50k+ mastery and level 5 staff sergeants even though literally none of my teammates have ever gotten the reference.
Carrilord has arrived.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 11 2020 19:30 GMT
#10
Appearently Tahm Kench cannot devour Xerath for the rest of the game if Xerath use his ultimate... Just had a game where it happend, after googling the bug has existed since 2016. Good job Rito, good job.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
July 11 2020 20:16 GMT
#11
Sounds like some really good spaghetti you found there.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-11 20:34:32
July 11 2020 20:34 GMT
#12
I am permbanning Zed now.
You're now breathing manually
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 12 2020 21:32 GMT
#13
Since I love to test stupid stuff in the practice tool I decided to check out on-hit Pantheon with Manamune, Wit's End, Bork, Cleaver and GA. Surprisingly he can actually kill a 1900 100 resist dummy in one rotation and a 3000 250 resist dummy in roughly the time it takes for his W to come back off cooldown.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 13 2020 17:55 GMT
#14
I think any item involving tear has to be a bit op to justify the build path and charge time but when manamune is good on Twitch that says a lot about it’s current strength.
Carrilord has arrived.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-13 18:11:41
July 13 2020 18:09 GMT
#15
I've started to see it on so many odd ADCs Jinx, Draven and Twitch. I guess it's since it's so cheap and has a significant stronger 2 item spike and it takes nearly full build for the IE first to outperform?

Had a game where our Lucian went it, pretty meh at the start but then it transformed and he sorta just walked around killing everyone.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-13 19:16:39
July 13 2020 18:13 GMT
#16
At least Draven and Jinx can stack the tear/spend the mana twitch buys it purely for the manamune passive

Actual serious question is manamune still too strong if you remove/hard nerf PoM, because PoM is the bigger offender and if you nerf it manamune does take a pretty big hit, at least with regards to twitch.
Carrilord has arrived.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-15 07:19:33
July 15 2020 07:17 GMT
#17
Yes, presence of mind is the real reason you're starting to see Tear builds on everyone. It's quite a snowbally rune too, early kills mean you have loads of mana in lane, and you build Manamune earlier with the gold, as well as it being stronger.

Crit scales so slowly, and Manamune has such a great mid game power spike.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 15 2020 08:21 GMT
#18
The oppression of modern early game dominance is much worse than old froggen or jin air by a significant amount.
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