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[Patch 9.5] Morgana/Kayle Reworks Discussion

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-05 21:49:09
March 05 2019 21:48 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

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Patch 9.5: Live on Mar. 6, 2019

Morgana and Kayle reworks will be released this patch. Find out more here:
  • Kayle and Morgana: The Righteous and the Fallen | Champion Gameplay Trailer
  • Kayle and Morgana Reveal
  • Kayle Champion Spotlight
  • Morgana Champion Spotlight


+ Show Spoiler [Previous GD Threads & Patch Notes] +

Patch 9.4 Rek'sai Buffs General Discussion
[Patch 9.3 AD Itemization Changes General Discussion
Patch 9.2 Sylas Release General Discussion
Patch 9.1 Welcome to Season 9! General Discussion
Patch 8.24 Neeko Release General Discussion
Patch 8.23 Preseason Shakeup General Discussion
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
March 05 2019 21:58 GMT
#2
Decent patch but I'm sad about the reworks in terms of visuals ;(

Some good skins were really ruined tbh.
Que Sera Sera
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9325 Posts
March 05 2019 22:00 GMT
#3
Dr. Mundo
E magic resist increased. 3% per stack, up to 6/15/24/33/42%


Wasn't he already very good against magic damage?
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 05 2019 22:06 GMT
#4
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-05 22:07:38
March 05 2019 22:06 GMT
#5
On March 06 2019 07:00 Sent. wrote:
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Dr. Mundo
E magic resist increased. 3% per stack, up to 6/15/24/33/42%


Wasn't he already very good against magic damage?


He floated around last year for a few games. I could see him coming into the meta when teams pick like Sylas mid + Sion and like Kaisa or Varus.

How do Ez and Sion dodge another patch tho lol
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9325 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-05 22:35:46
March 05 2019 22:26 GMT
#6
If Riot nerfs Sion we'll be left with even more boring tanks or no tanks at all. We need another Sion-like rework of some old tank champion. Volibear?
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 05 2019 23:00 GMT
#7
On March 06 2019 07:26 Sent. wrote:
If Riot nerfs Sion we'll be left with even more boring tanks or no tanks at all. We need another Sion-like rework of some old tank champion. Volibear?

which tank is more boring than Sion? I find him mind numbing to watch
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9325 Posts
March 05 2019 23:11 GMT
#8
Mundo, Ornn and Maokai.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 05 2019 23:22 GMT
#9
On March 06 2019 08:00 starkiller123 wrote:
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On March 06 2019 07:26 Sent. wrote:
If Riot nerfs Sion we'll be left with even more boring tanks or no tanks at all. We need another Sion-like rework of some old tank champion. Volibear?

which tank is more boring than Sion? I find him mind numbing to watch

Probably because Sion has been the goto tank for at least a year and then some.

Sion's engage and Q has a certain visceral satisfaction to them so I dont think he's that boring to watch compared to the other tanks, Maokai/Nautilus meta anyone?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-05 23:55:41
March 05 2019 23:55 GMT
#10
I love Maokai ;(
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 06 2019 00:24 GMT
#11
I don't like Mao's new ult. Naut is always fun. And I think trying to make Mundo a niche anti-magic tank has a lot of potential.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 06 2019 00:28 GMT
#12
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-06 01:18:03
March 06 2019 01:16 GMT
#13
On March 06 2019 09:28 JimmiC wrote:
I loved when you could go AP mao for the short time after the rework. Not that it was good but it was so fun to make death bushes with the sapplings.

Spellthief Support Maokai where you force them to recall at level 1 because you have a nest of saplings at the bush they have to walk through to get to lane. Good times.

On March 06 2019 08:55 AdsMoFro wrote:
I love Maokai ;(

He's just so boring with his new ult. The old mega-uber-alpha-omega raidboss Maokai was fun to watch when he reached the point where he could just straight up troll around inside the enemy team.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 06 2019 01:22 GMT
#14
hard agree on the ult
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
March 06 2019 01:37 GMT
#15
His new ult is boring I agree. In general, the rework made him like 100000x less satisfying to play. And people already thought he was unsatisfying to play so idk...plz revert rito ;(
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
March 06 2019 07:59 GMT
#16
Why did they buff Vi AP ratio, Trinity doesn't give AP anymore lmao.

Conquerer big nerf in the late game, the true damage and heal is still king though.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 06 2019 12:36 GMT
#17
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This icon looks way worse.
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loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
March 06 2019 19:35 GMT
#18
I don't understand the Kayle rework, it goes against ever single major gameplaychange in the last 4 years.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9325 Posts
March 06 2019 19:51 GMT
#19
I just played into one in ranked. Thx for the free win, nerd!
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 06 2019 21:24 GMT
#20
On March 07 2019 04:51 Sent. wrote:
I just played into one in ranked. Thx for the free win, nerd!

She's so weak early it's not even fun. Just got from a game against one, she got completely destroyed early to the point it was not even fun. We all wanted to see her at level 16, that was not fun either. I think she does way too much true damage considering the huge amount of cleave, I dont mind the other level 16 = gg characters like Kassadin since they actually have to make plays.
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