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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 08 2017 17:25 GMT
#141
Probably the least talked about part of this is Stunt, I think he's really good, potentially the best resident support in the league once he gets stage acclimated.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 17:30:08
March 08 2017 17:29 GMT
#142
On March 09 2017 02:01 Ansibled wrote:


The fuck?

'Team Liquid has purchased contract rights to now-former Phoenix1 support Adrian "Adrian" Ma, who will most likely sit out the remainder of the Spring Split before competing for a spot on the Liquid lineup before the Summer Split, sources close to the player and teams told ESPN.'

I think the writing is on the wall that Turtle is going to TL in the Summer with this move. TL will have 3/5 of the 2016 Immortals roster, a better mid in Piglet, and a passable top in Lourlo.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 17:31:28
March 08 2017 17:30 GMT
#143
With the way Mat is playing I wonder why they are letting him finish the split

Especially with the meta being way into Adrian's favor atm
Carrilord has arrived.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
March 08 2017 17:35 GMT
#144
On March 09 2017 02:30 Slusher wrote:
With the way Mat is playing I wonder why they are letting him finish the split

Especially with the meta being way into Adrian's favor atm


I thought Adrian is not available for this split since the roster is locked?
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 08 2017 17:51 GMT
#145
The espn article states that matt will 'most likely' finish the season. I estimate Adrian higher than Matt, but getting used to him in scrims before fielding would be wise.

Overall decent developments, although they feel a bit chaotic. It would be sad if TL relegates.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 08 2017 18:00 GMT
#146
We've seen TL scramble to put together teams with seemingly good players plenty of times in the past. This just feels like more desperation mode antics without much long term planning which ultimately may lead to the exact same result further down the line.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 08 2017 18:16 GMT
#147
unless the rules are different for subs rosters can't be locked yet with Double planning to start.

I'm just saying, the move could look dumb if the mid season update makes tank supports bonkers
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 08 2017 18:33 GMT
#148
On March 09 2017 03:16 Slusher wrote:
unless the rules are different for subs rosters can't be locked yet with Double planning to start.

I'm just saying, the move could look dumb if the mid season update makes tank supports bonkers

Adrian can play tank supports.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 18:43:36
March 08 2017 18:43 GMT
#149
On March 09 2017 02:14 amd098 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 14:43 dsyxelic wrote:
wow this is some great news for tl fans

not only do we get to (hopefully) root for a somewhat decent league of legends team now, it's basically assured that we'll get at least wildturtle. no way TSM and TL don't do an adc swap if DL rejoins TSM.

also can't wait for some DL x Piglet. the respect they have for one another is huge


nope, tsm plans on having both adcs next split

“I’m happy that Peter has this opportunity to practice competitively before the summer split. He’s been a good friend of mine, and we will happily give him a fair try out for the summer split. The goal is to have the best possible roster at worlds and having Double as a potential 6th man would only help us with our endeavors at Worlds 2017 . It is good that he’s getting practice now, and hopefully it will not be a large shift for him when he comes back.”
-Andy ‘Reginald’ Dinh


I saw their plans, doesnt mean itll happen. We've seen all the attempts in na for multiman rosters. Only a few work out even close to the way it was planned. Just as how tl says theyre gonna have matt and adrian work together, in reality one will be the main guy and the other eventually let go. How early is the bigger question so that teams can pick the player up. I think its far more likely we see tl wildturtle if dl returns to tsm.
TL/SKT
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 08 2017 18:51 GMT
#150
On March 09 2017 03:00 Numy wrote:
We've seen TL scramble to put together teams with seemingly good players plenty of times in the past. This just feels like more desperation mode antics without much long term planning which ultimately may lead to the exact same result further down the line.

Long term stuff is kinda irrelevant when you are facing relegation. They have to stop the boat from sinking right now.
Off-season = best season
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
March 09 2017 21:19 GMT
#151
On March 09 2017 03:43 dsyxelic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2017 02:14 amd098 wrote:
On March 08 2017 14:43 dsyxelic wrote:
wow this is some great news for tl fans

not only do we get to (hopefully) root for a somewhat decent league of legends team now, it's basically assured that we'll get at least wildturtle. no way TSM and TL don't do an adc swap if DL rejoins TSM.

also can't wait for some DL x Piglet. the respect they have for one another is huge


nope, tsm plans on having both adcs next split

“I’m happy that Peter has this opportunity to practice competitively before the summer split. He’s been a good friend of mine, and we will happily give him a fair try out for the summer split. The goal is to have the best possible roster at worlds and having Double as a potential 6th man would only help us with our endeavors at Worlds 2017 . It is good that he’s getting practice now, and hopefully it will not be a large shift for him when he comes back.”
-Andy ‘Reginald’ Dinh


I saw their plans, doesnt mean itll happen. We've seen all the attempts in na for multiman rosters. Only a few work out even close to the way it was planned. Just as how tl says theyre gonna have matt and adrian work together, in reality one will be the main guy and the other eventually let go. How early is the bigger question so that teams can pick the player up. I think its far more likely we see tl wildturtle if dl returns to tsm.



few work out?
easyhoon/faker
wraith/corejj
huni/profit
bengi/blank
blank/peanut
North Korea is best Korea!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-09 22:29:57
March 09 2017 22:28 GMT
#152
I'd give you one bulletpoint total for all of those skt ones. In fact I'd argue skt one in spite of bengi/ blank more than they won because of it so it's almost a wash
Carrilord has arrived.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-10 01:28:40
March 10 2017 01:23 GMT
#153
On March 10 2017 06:19 amd098 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2017 03:43 dsyxelic wrote:
On March 09 2017 02:14 amd098 wrote:
On March 08 2017 14:43 dsyxelic wrote:
wow this is some great news for tl fans

not only do we get to (hopefully) root for a somewhat decent league of legends team now, it's basically assured that we'll get at least wildturtle. no way TSM and TL don't do an adc swap if DL rejoins TSM.

also can't wait for some DL x Piglet. the respect they have for one another is huge


nope, tsm plans on having both adcs next split

“I’m happy that Peter has this opportunity to practice competitively before the summer split. He’s been a good friend of mine, and we will happily give him a fair try out for the summer split. The goal is to have the best possible roster at worlds and having Double as a potential 6th man would only help us with our endeavors at Worlds 2017 . It is good that he’s getting practice now, and hopefully it will not be a large shift for him when he comes back.”
-Andy ‘Reginald’ Dinh


I saw their plans, doesnt mean itll happen. We've seen all the attempts in na for multiman rosters. Only a few work out even close to the way it was planned. Just as how tl says theyre gonna have matt and adrian work together, in reality one will be the main guy and the other eventually let go. How early is the bigger question so that teams can pick the player up. I think its far more likely we see tl wildturtle if dl returns to tsm.



few work out?
easyhoon/faker
wraith/corejj
huni/profit
bengi/blank
blank/peanut


did you miss this part of my post:
We've seen all the attempts in na for multiman rosters.


didn't know skt and samsung were na teams now.

kr is a different story. they can make those things work. na can barely take care of their soloq talents, they haven't really shown the ability to have two useful players at one role.

though I'd argue the first two there (easyhoon/faker + wraith/corejj) weren't really good sub setups. corejj and faker were clearly better for the team in pretty much all scenarios. putting in wraith/easyhoon was the inferior choice like 99% of the time. as soon as faker learned azir it was over for easyhoon lol. bengi/blank I guess, though their thing was weird with bengi being good in internationals and blank being good in regional league. them being trash at the other.
huni/profit, blank/peanut look good atm but its still early on in the year.

not to mention like slusher said, thats all from just two orgs. one of them being the most successful organization in like all of esports, of course they would be the ones to pull it off if anyone.

but thats besides the point, i clearly stated NA
TL/SKT
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 10 2017 06:47 GMT
#154
Multiman rosters are simply tryouts that run during the season.
Off-season = best season
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 10 2017 08:32 GMT
#155
Faker/Easyhoon 'worked' in spring 2015. When Faker stepped up his game in Summer, the difference was obvious.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
March 10 2017 10:53 GMT
#156
I'm curious as to how well Doublelift will work in TL. I do think he's the best ADC in NA, but a big part of his value as a player comes from the fact that he can be a team's primary shotcaller, and I don't know how comfortable TL might be with a rental player from another team coming in to take over shotcalling duties for a few weeks before leaving again.

And that's before the fact that Liftlift could be quite rusty whereas most teams will have completely shaken off their rust by now.

Another consideration: If TL fails to get out of relegation zone by the end of the split, will DL stick with the team through the promotion tournament? I imagine both Regi and DL will be eager to have him returning to TSM and getting back their groove as a team as soon as possible, but TL would also rather have him over Youngbin for this (conjectural) most critical series in the team's history.
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amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
March 27 2017 08:01 GMT
#157
well. liquid shoulda just genetically modified taeja to play league and then clone him a few times over
North Korea is best Korea!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 30 2017 03:00 GMT
#158
Message from the glorious leader
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
March 30 2017 17:15 GMT
#159
Joe Montana invested in cloud 9 that's pretty cool
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
April 04 2017 02:58 GMT
#160
and adrian left tl. so 1 game played XD
North Korea is best Korea!
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