On October 25 2017 00:25 lilwisper wrote:
I thought I heard about the WWE having massive attendance drops. Is that just for the weekly live shows?

Their finances are a mystery, but by all accounts they are doing awful and have been cutting costs heavily. No idea how that plays into them investing like that.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

October 30 2017 12:56 GMT

#830

https://eu.lolesports.com/en/articles/eu-lcs-in-2018-and-beyond

boring

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

October 30 2017 13:54 GMT

#831

League fans love formats that obscure team strength. Let's them believe in the delusion a little longer.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

October 30 2017 13:58 GMT

#832

Idk what you mean with obscuring strength.

But obviously the shitty thing is that they cut the number of games almost in half. Even less than half for NA. No idea why people on reddit seem to be happy about those changes.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

October 30 2017 13:58 GMT

#833

This is too much stupid for one tweet.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

October 30 2017 14:04 GMT

#834

On October 30 2017 22:58 Redox wrote:
Idk what you mean with obscuring strength.

But obviously the shitty thing is that they cut the number of games almost in half. Even less than half for NA. No idea why people on reddit seem to be happy about those changes.

Essentially Bo3 allow the group play to more closely match team strength going into playoffs. Where as Bo1 like this allows more upsets where teams that have no chance in playoffs look stronger going into playoffs. Same way the Worlds format makes teams look stronger or weaker than they are until you get into the bracket stage. I don't think it's a conincidence that every year you have the same narrative going into worlds and the first week of worlds. In fact worlds plays out exactly the same every single year. "This year Non-KR so strong! - > Week 1 look how strong they are! Maybe they have a chance -> Meme week 2 collapse but still have chance in bracket for gets that got out! -> Bracket loss , oh well they tried their hardest Gap closing!!".

I think Reddit is happy because they don't actually want to witness League of legends games. What they want is the story and drama around the games. Having more games doesn't really give more to the story, it mainly just cements a few key stories. Having half the games allows more drama to unfold which is really what they there for. If they wanted to watch more league they'd be pushing for how LCK/OGN has done league.

H2K really has tried their hardest to lose all respect possible. Such a crazy greedy company. Angel investors aren't the only way to do business. Have people just forgot how to create sustainable business or is he just an idiot? Just shut up already and pray you haven't killed off your brand entirely.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

October 30 2017 14:07 GMT

#835

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Redox

Germany24794 Posts

October 30 2017 14:09 GMT

#836

I would say if anything bo1 is more accurate than bo3 at measuring performance because the result of every single game is counted. Of course provided the overall number of games stays the same. If it is half the games as Riot decided now, obiously it is less accurate.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

October 30 2017 14:16 GMT

#837

On October 30 2017 23:07 JimmiC wrote:
I'm happy with the once a year relegation, twice did seem excessive.

also in every article and so on they have said they moved to best of 1 because it gets more viewers. This makes sense to me I don't have time to watch a bunch of best of three's I can watch a bunch of games. It is also what people are used to from the sports world the regular season is always games and then many sports have series for playoffs, it ups the intensity.

Sure it is better for concurrent viewer numbers, but why do random people always care so much about those? I get that Riot cares about them of course. But I dont get anything from more viewers. I only get less games that I could watch if I wanted to.

Also while concurrent viewer numbers go up, viewer hours probably go down. Never understood why people rate concurrent viewers higher than viewer hours, in my mind the latter should be more important. Main overall benefit for Riot is probably that they save a lot of production costs. But again why would anyone that is not Riot care about that?

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

October 30 2017 14:21 GMT

#838

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Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

October 30 2017 15:15 GMT

#839

On October 30 2017 23:21 JimmiC wrote:

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Everyone who cares about LOL lasting long term should care. The more more profitable it is the more money that will go back into it.

That's not how companies operate at all. Most just funnel profits upwards while not actually benefiting the environment they are in. Long term planning is not what corporate want or care about. It's about maximizing profits right now. If these people really cared about the long term success of the scene why were they so quick to create an unsustainable business model that required Riot to give them handouts or they throw their toys out the cot?

On October 30 2017 23:09 Redox wrote:
I would say if anything bo1 is more accurate than bo3 at measuring performance because the result of every single game is counted. Of course provided the overall number of games stays the same. If it is half the games as Riot decided now, obiously it is less accurate.

So Korean teams aren't that good and SSG shouldn't be in finals since they lost first game? We've had this format before, the teams that floated to the top in the league often weren't at the top come playoffs. How is that better measure of performance then?

I think if you want to do a large Bo1 round robin then there just shouldn't be a playoffs. The concept of league into playoffs is pretty weird anyway. It's two vastly different metrics with vastly different skillsets. Or they could award something for league placements that aren't just playoff positions.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

October 30 2017 15:20 GMT

#840

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