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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
 + Show Spoiler [New Bracket Announcement] + New bracket:  Game schedule (times are PDT): November 21
November 22
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On November 17 2015 11:28 Ansibled wrote: Nice seeding At least you get China/Korea final and Chaser dumping not only Svenskeren but Amazing after it, duh. | ||
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
On November 17 2015 11:31 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: At least you get China/Korea final and Chaser dumping not only Svenskeren but Amazing after it, duh. Kinda looking forward to LGD and JAG trashing basically everyone. Flame is playing right? Seeing him beat Zion and Huni back to back is gonna be fun. Aw shit Huni isn't playing | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Deriao
United States132 Posts
uol gets a bye wew predictions boys clg<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,lgd jin air>>>tsm uol<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<lgd 'jin air>og jin air>lgd | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On November 17 2015 11:31 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: At least you get China/Korea final and Chaser dumping not only Svenskeren but Amazing after it, duh. Well, unless they play Winged again. | ||
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
THE RIVEN KING WILL SAVE US ALL. In all fairness, LGD should just wipe their side while Jin Air might drop a set here and there. Hopefully, both Chaser and Jack play, so I'm not going to be too worried for gladplane. | ||
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thejuju
United States413 Posts
OH WAIT ITS JIN AIR THATS RIGHT THEY'RE GONNA PLAY TRACE WINGED AND PILOT EL OH EL jin air why do you ruin my dreams | ||
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
Very interested to see OG with PoE though so I guess that's something. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35159 Posts
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bbc23
United States416 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
But despite the low entertainment value (Fnatic is out, no 5.22 clown fiesta, UoL getting a random bye) we should still get some good results. We can see if LGD can make up for frauding out hardcore at World's, or if GODV is going to play ADC again. Similarly, Jin Air could expose the west, or they can put in randos and scrub out of the tournament. TSM and CLG can also give us a bunch of talking points to make snarky comments about depending on how they perform | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
i would say that lgd has the easiest fucking bracket ever except that mbCarmac says they've changed the seeding and UoL won't inherit Fnatic's bye so we'll see what happens i guess go chaser *edit* i would argue that lgd has to win the whole thing for actual redemption and even that is arguable, so many of these teams have been gutted and reformed and i don't expect any of them to perform well so soon | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
how do teams even practice for it why is Jin Air using JRG and not JGW | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
https://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/666480850108723201 | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
(TSM vs LGD) vs OG (CLG vs UOL) vs JGW | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Oh shit, just realised this means we get DL vs Imp. Go Imp. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35159 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On November 17 2015 22:05 Gahlo wrote: Still don't know why Jin Air gets the high seed. Thought the seeds were given based on Worlds performance. My face when CLG or UoL will be in semifinals. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Personally I prefer option C of scrapping these animal BYEs. These post-S2 IEMs have the literal worst format of any esport tournament I've ever seen. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On November 17 2015 22:15 Fusilero wrote: I guess they gave it to Jin Air because Korea #1 since otherwise it'd probably go to LGD based on 3rd in group D. Personally I prefer option C of scrapping these animal BYEs. These post-S2 IEMs have the literal worst format of any esport tournament I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure Riot enforces the format... :\ Jin Air getting the seed is fair though based on Worlds performance, you have choice between #4 team in Korea when Korea goes almost undefeated or teams that go 1-5, 2-4 in groups. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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EsanLOL
479 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On November 17 2015 23:10 Numy wrote: Carmac said that on a reddit thread so I assume it's correct. They signed a deal with Riot to make the events and in that deal it specified the format they had to follow. Kind of feels like Riot is purposely setting IEM up to fail then but I doubt it's that malicious. Riot are just super bad at making good tournament formats. It would be nice to have better tournaments. Hopefully someone will sue for broadcasting rights at some point, I'm sure nothing could go wrong. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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Saradin
456 Posts
It's going to be very interesting when the traditional cable TV broadcasting deals implode on themselves. Granted, the TV deal apocalypse is at least a few years away, probably a decade or two, depending on the rate of cord cutting. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On November 17 2015 23:10 Numy wrote: Carmac said that on a reddit thread so I assume it's correct. They signed a deal with Riot to make the events and in that deal it specified the format they had to follow. Kind of feels like Riot is purposely setting IEM up to fail then but I doubt it's that malicious. Riot are just super bad at making good tournament formats. Makes sense why this isn't on 5.22 then, Riot doesn't want people to see how fiesta this animal patch is 4.20 Weedwick never forget | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On November 18 2015 03:34 Zess wrote: Makes sense why this isn't on 5.22 then, Riot doesn't want people to see how fiesta this animal patch is 4.20 Weedwick never forget They had no problem with it at Worlds | ||
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Saradin
456 Posts
As the url says, Mark Cuban will be playing in the show match. Please, Mark, please run your mouth as much as your very heart and soul wants. The NBA league office can't fine you here! (I think) Edit: As unlikely as it is, I actually kind of dream of Mark Cuban buying an LCS team just to see him rack up the fines from Riot. Slaps on the wrist won't stop him. (If you're unaware of his history in the NBA, here is a partial list) | ||
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Maluk
France987 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On November 18 2015 04:45 Maluk wrote: So are we still supposed to believe that China is a legitimate region ? I wouldn't even bet on LGD making it past TSM. Not that I think TSM is good. LGD's only advantage is that everyone is already in pre-season mode while they still have the same roster, maybe they can use this to pull out a good result but I don't expect anything huge from them. 'LGD's only advantage' | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On November 18 2015 04:45 Maluk wrote: So are we still supposed to believe that China is a legitimate region ? I wouldn't even bet on LGD making it past TSM. Not that I think TSM is good. LGD's only advantage is that everyone is already in pre-season mode while they still have the same roster, maybe they can use this to pull out a good result but I don't expect anything huge from them. It's not reddit, bruh. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 18 2015 04:45 Maluk wrote: So are we still supposed to believe that China is a legitimate region ? I wouldn't even bet on LGD making it past TSM. Not that I think TSM is good. LGD's only advantage is that everyone is already in pre-season mode while they still have the same roster, maybe they can use this to pull out a good result but I don't expect anything huge from them. China may not be the second coming of Jesus but they are still a competitive region. LGD at worlds even had a decent showing in 2nd week after they fixed up some stuff. If you want to say anything about regions post worlds then it should be how terrible NA is if anything. Still I think talking about regions is silly. Good teams are good, bad teams are bad. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On November 18 2015 05:00 Undead1993 wrote: maybe a bit offtopic but who is the most probable adc for clg??? i am so curious For the moment, Stixxay. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
"Achieved a 2200 rating as a Restoration Shaman in World of Warcraft" Source:http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/Stixxay clg has a bright future | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On November 18 2015 05:41 Undead1993 wrote: "Achieved a 2200 rating as a Restoration Shaman in World of Warcraft" Source:http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/Stixxay clg has a bright future Stixxay is fine, but if CLG is forced to stick with full NA, it only means that their financial situation is still far from not being dire. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 18 2015 05:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Stixxay is fine, but if CLG is forced to stick with full NA, it only means that their financial situation is still far from not being dire. I have a sinking feeling we'll see the exact same roster -Dlift +Stixxay | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 18 2015 05:41 Undead1993 wrote: "Achieved a 2200 rating as a Restoration Shaman in World of Warcraft" Source:http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/Stixxay clg has a bright future Aphromoo was a healer in WoW; they can build up synergy in raid runs. That's double the potential methods of synergy he had with doublelift :3 | ||
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bbc23
United States416 Posts
On November 18 2015 05:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Stixxay is fine, but if CLG is forced to stick with full NA, it only means that their financial situation is still far from not being dire. Hotshot said they nearly went bankrupt in the Spring before Mylixia showed up | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On November 18 2015 05:48 Numy wrote: I have a sinking feeling we'll see the exact same roster -Dlift +Stixxay Well, duh, Pobelter is already donezo for Huhi, so that's communication improvement, right? Can't wait until someone blames Huhi in upcoming season that he ruined the team just by not being native English speaker. On November 18 2015 05:56 bbc23 wrote: Hotshot said they nearly went bankrupt in the Spring before Mylixia showed up http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2015/09/30/from-near-bankruptcy-to-making-millions-in-esports/ | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Maluk
France987 Posts
But apparently you guys still are confident that China is at the top and is safe from NA and EU. I'm curious to see how things will turn out. If I had to make predictions I'd say Origen beats LGD because Origen has real communication and a good game management. But that's not a confident statement. I also think LGD should beat TSM but I don't think they're safe and just going to win no matter what, like 95 games out of 100. All in all I was surprised by the confident predictions I see in this thread because to me this IEM is a giant clown fiesta/lottery. Didn't mean to hurt the LPL fans' pride ! | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Why can't we have only World Championship, I wonder. Let's just draw teams from the hat and put there, domestic leagues don't matter anyway so shouldn't be too far from reality. On November 18 2015 06:45 DarkCore wrote: The real question is if LGD will return from their absolutely atrocious form and thirst for revenge vs OG, or if CN's golden age is over before it even began. Calling this IEM a clown fest is a bit extreme, there are some good teams and some dark horses (TSM). IEM isn't worlds, I don't want to see the very best clash for the big prize, mid tier international competitions can be exciting as well, and often surprise with quality. Yea, let's ignore that LGD straight up murdered OG instantly they got eliminated at Worlds. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
But apparently you guys still are confident that China is at the top and is safe from NA and EU. The real question is if LGD will return from their absolutely atrocious form and thirst for revenge vs OG, or if CN's golden age is over before it even began. Calling this IEM a clown fest is a bit extreme, there are some good teams and some dark horses (TSM). IEM isn't worlds, I don't want to see the very best clash for the big prize, mid tier international competitions can be exciting as well, and often surprise with quality. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
OG is 1-1 with LGD. This tournament is most likely JAG, OG, and then a bunch of teams trying to keep it together from game to game. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On November 18 2015 06:59 Caiada wrote: The day LL doesn't think China is a close second to Korea is a cold day in hell. SEA is of course third. OG is 1-1 with LGD. This tournament is most likely JAG, OG, and then a bunch of teams trying to keep it together from game to game. i feel like tsm will come out swinging | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 18 2015 06:59 Caiada wrote: The day LL doesn't think China is a close second to Korea is a cold day in hell. SEA is of course third. OG is 1-1 with LGD. This tournament is most likely JAG, OG, and then a bunch of teams trying to keep it together from game to game. This sounds reasonable. If this was a few weeks later I'd say that some of the new teams could "honeymoon" their way to victory but it's a bit too early for that. TSM in fact may be pretty strong. Last few iterations have all started out pretty strong with the players playing their style. It's only after a little bit that they become spineless cowards that can't be proactive. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35159 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
1 month bets only. | ||
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
-LGD has some good individual/mechanical talent in comparison to the other teams here...in theory -atrocious, game-losing p/b is fixable, and LGD has had enough time to make it not suck -everyone else is dealing with very recent roster changes. i'm expecting things to go poorly for most of them as they work their shit out -this tournament is lulzy. i expect preparation levels to vary. LGD has every motivation to make up for worlds and therefore should be full tryhard -in the absence of a strong strategic advantage, i believe that strong mechanical players should shine, which is LGD's relative forte | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
On November 18 2015 19:54 scrubtastic wrote: i think this is LGD's best chance at taking a tournament -LGD has some good individual/mechanical talent in comparison to the other teams here...in theory -atrocious, game-losing p/b is fixable, and LGD has had enough time to make it not suck -everyone else is dealing with very recent roster changes. i'm expecting things to go poorly for most of them as they work their shit out -this tournament is lulzy. i expect preparation levels to vary. LGD has every motivation to make up for worlds and therefore should be full tryhard -in the absence of a strong strategic advantage, i believe that strong mechanical players should shine, which is LGD's relative forte I agree with your analysis. LGD and TSM are the teams that have sth to prove here. TSM with their changes cant be at a level to overcome the individual advantages of LGD though. OG vs LGD will be close I think. PoE is a monster and Niels/Mithy is the best botlane in the west by a good margin. Soaz prob hasnt played a dozen soloq games since worlds though. CLG vs UoL will be the biggest clownfiesta in the history of LoL. Whoever wins will get swept by the korean team. | ||
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