[Public Beta Environment] General Discussion - Page 9

On August 21 2015 09:00 Harem wrote:

W max second isnt that uncommon for mid fizz. For example, when Westdoor played it vs Fnatic, he did it.

Man, those Syndra buffs feel nice. I mean yeah she still basically does no damage until level 6 and then 9. (especially vs people who open flask and W can do damage but Syndra is incredibly mana gated) but now her lategame scaling isnt actually that bad for once as she used to fall off. Can't waitttttt

On August 21 2015 09:52 Slusher wrote:


Westdoor has always done W early he's known for it actually

On August 21 2015 11:55 Gahlo wrote:

They've been trying to make Syndra a thing again for a while now by fixing bugs. Guess they finally decided they need to put some hard buffs in.

2: Bug City
Not one of Syndra's ability's ISN'T bugged or impacting her in some capacity. Right off the top of my head, I can count 7 or 8 still affecting her years later, and more still. You can find my entire list over HERE.
Basically, here's the quick and skinny:
Q damage is dislocated sometimes (it will not hit in rare situations)
W throw breaks if CC'd (grabbing/throwing animation [before flight] breaks the ability if CC'd in the animation)
W damage hitbox dislocated (it will frequently just not hit the impact zone, sometimes up to 80%)
W auto-throws by itself (simply issuing the grab command triggers a throw command instantly, you cannot hold an object)
E+Q combo doesn't stun (largely fixed in 5.13, but can still occur under edge situations)
E will not hit max range Q's (E will randomly decide not to hit a max range casted Q, even though it was designed to.)
E will not knockback enemies, often when they use mobility (ever watch a Gragas slide right through knockback? or Lee Sin too? )
R frame desyncs Syndra when she fires it (this one varies, but Syndra's model will skip and desync all over the world for a few seconds. I don't know if this affects her hitbox, but it's very difficult to move her around when this happens).
There's a couple more I'm still researching, but you get the idea. All of these impact her performance by reducing the reliability of her spells. A big reason she wasn't picked before Patch 5.13 was because her stun had a 40-50% chance of breaking, outright, and not working. No one wants to invest into a champion where their skills just decide to not work - logically, it's an insane risk to take. Unless You're Azir Kappa

On August 21 2015 10:23 kongoline wrote:

fatefalls the one trick pony fizz often maxes W first too, mostly in matchups he cant guarantee to land E like vs ahri,zed,leblanc etc

Here's what the updated Spectator UI looks like if you manage to FORCE it on through the game files, it is not currently enabled and you will not see if you just spectate a game yet.

On August 25 2015 00:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
bard changes suck, just shows they dont actually know why he isnt picked and just gave him generic buffs.

The delay on R is way too long, especially when champions can just dash out of it or walk out of it super easily.

high risk with little reward, doesnt do enough damage or heal enough to account for his unreliability.