EPTOn July 31 2015 05:34 Fusilero wrote:
All I see there is that hypothetical group C has Ryu v Faker.
All I see there is that hypothetical group C has Ryu v Faker.
Fnatic v SKT rematch in quarters too.
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Gahlo
United States35145 Posts
Fnatic v SKT rematch in quarters too. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On July 31 2015 05:33 Disengaged wrote: Most of the items are pretty bad. I'm a fan of Dead Mans Plate though. Nah most of the items look interesting. Even the flesh cleaver has great healing. By themselves they make the game interesting for me. All 3 3k gold tomes are more interesting than morellonomicon which is 95% of the time bought just as a statstick and 5% of the time for grievous wounds. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On July 31 2015 06:15 obesechicken13 wrote: Nah most of the items look interesting. Even the flesh cleaver has great healing. By themselves they make the game interesting for me. All 3 3k gold tomes are more interesting than morellonomicon which is 95% of the time bought just as a statstick and 5% of the time for grievous wounds. it's literally 100 - 0%, back when Athenes was buff as fuck and Mundo was the shit ppl went athene's vs him | ||
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Gahlo
United States35145 Posts
On July 31 2015 06:31 Slusher wrote: it's literally 100 - 0%, back when Athenes was buff as fuck and Mundo was the shit ppl went athene's vs him He's talking about now, though. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
Teleport boots are hilarious. Trickster's Glass is less cool than it sounds, as is the River staff. I wish the support item was actually in the base game. Really cool idea for lanes that want to just trade all the time. A bit weak on stats though. Dead Man's Plate is great. The chase potential on a tank is interesting. Puppeteer has bad stats and requires way too much to setup to be fun. The three big AP items are all really good. Like, ridiculously-overtuned efficient and a ton of use. A 100 AP item that good at sieging would be incredible in the base game. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
the fact that nobody went morello when mundo was fotm with s4 athenes (s3 i'll give a pass) tells me 0% (keep in mind s4 Athene's was 25 less ap but had the buff mr) | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
The river item looks like it'll help you if you spend a lot of time in the river. Martyr's Gambit looks like it could save your ADC during that fight where if he gets popped by Zed you lose the game, and if he doesn't get popped, you win the game. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
Martyr's Gambit sounds pretty niche, but pretty good at that niche. I wish a bunch of its cost wasn't in health regen though. | ||
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Osmoses
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
you could even pull a beerfest and have it be his twin brother who nobody knew he had lol. if they do it as I expect they'll do it, it just comes off as a lame retcon and oldschool comic readers like myself have had enough of that garbage | ||
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Osmoses
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Caiada
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On July 31 2015 05:05 sob3k wrote: 2. The items are fun, but not really interesting enough to carry the mode....There is also a huge tryhard element that incentivizes building old item builds which are known to be strong, over trying the new weird items and maybe ending up getting crap. You are playing with and/or against absolute idiots if they are "tryharding" yet not building any of the new items. Teleport boot enchant? Strictly superior Morello's? Flesheater? | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
edit: problem with this new mode I think is that you get a separate currency for the brawlers so there's no choices involved, sooner or later you get all the brawlers and all the upgrades. Much more interesting if you could spend your own gold for som REALLY powerful minions, like sending a raidboss down a lane. Would also be alot more fun if you could choose to buy more and more of whatever unit you want, creating waves of like 40 razorfins lategame :p | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
The issue with Brawlers is the currency like Osmoses said; given enough time you get all the items and upgrades and then the game sort of devolves into a limited form of Dota 2 of OP items letting you do stupid shit you shouldn't be able to do. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On July 31 2015 06:40 obesechicken13 wrote: Typhoon claws procs all 3 autos at once. The description is bad according to the wiki. So now instead of Sated, you can auto 3 creeps as Irelia, Q to a low enemy creep, press W, and auto an enemy champion once for 225 true damage and 78 heal in .4 seconds. The river item looks like it'll help you if you spend a lot of time in the river. Martyr's Gambit looks like it could save your ADC during that fight where if he gets popped by Zed you lose the game, and if he doesn't get popped, you win the game. Yeah, well, its not at once, but its in the space of one auto...wiki says 7.5 attack speed. In case any of you were thinking about playing Devourer/Typhoon onhit frenzy jungle Irelia.....don't, because once you get sated it turns off your typhoon blade, it won't proc anymore. LAAAAAME | ||
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Gahlo
United States35145 Posts
On July 31 2015 06:36 Slusher wrote: the fact that nobody went morello when mundo was fotm with s4 athenes (s3 i'll give a pass) tells me 0% (keep in mind s4 Athene's was 25 less ap but had the buff mr) Which, once again, is superfluous to the topic. It doesn't matter how old Athenes stacks up to current Morellos when comparing Morellos to the BMB variants. Morellos wasn't bought when Mundo was in the top meta because a) Athenes gave you more bang for your buck and b) mages weren't supposed to deal with him anyway. His reliance on an MR item, and proclivity for stacking health, plus junglers going around with a Locket in their Pocket made him an abysmal target - regen or not. On July 31 2015 06:47 Osmoses wrote: Never mind mundo, why do I see more and more nautilus top all of a sudden? And why the hell is is so damn strong? :p Naut allows people to build full tank and still deal stupid damage. He's pretty braindead to play as long as you can land hooks. Riptide is beyond broken. On July 31 2015 06:52 Osmoses wrote: I feel the opposite, Gangplank is GANGPLANK, you don't get to be pirate king if something like a mere explosion can kill you, he eats some oranges and is k. He's the scrappiest pirate ever to sail the seas and you can't kill him. He is the pirate king, replacing him with "some other pirate", I mean come on. I mean, MF specifically say "find the body." Until it's confirmed, he ain't dead. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On July 31 2015 06:58 GrandInquisitor wrote: Welcome to TeamLiquid, where every new game mode is the worst game mode ever and Rito pls. You are playing with and/or against absolute idiots if they are "tryharding" yet not building any of the new items. Teleport boot enchant? Strictly superior Morello's? Flesheater? There are some great items but most of the really fun ones aren't as good (puppeteer and trickster), and the ones that are really good aren't that interesting (flesh, mirage). At any rate buying one weird item is not fun enough to carry an entire game. Its not terrible, its just I feel they missed a lot of opportunities. | ||
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