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Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
July 12 2015 00:03 GMT
#341
On July 12 2015 07:57 Purge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 07:22 Sonnington wrote:
Has anyone tried Runeglaive AP Gangplank? It's such a good item for him. AP GP's biggest weakness is waveclear, which is Runeglaive's biggest strength. The two most important stats on AP GP is CDR and AP, which Runeglaive gives. It even gives mana and synergizes with GP's on-hit Q.

Has anyone tried it yet?


Ill try it later :D

AP GP is just passive thru lane then is what, an ult bot for the rest of the game or smn? And dont you give up all your damage without lich?

Pretty much. I feel AP GP's real strength is in his huge instant heal. He's more of an AP bruiser I usually build 2-3 AP items with spirit visage and other tanky items in order to heal for something like 1000 hp every ten seconds. You can get lichebane, but I've always preferred gauntlet for the increased slow, cdr, and armour. But neither really synergize with runeglaive.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 12 2015 00:05 GMT
#342
On July 12 2015 09:03 Sonnington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 07:57 Purge wrote:
On July 12 2015 07:22 Sonnington wrote:
Has anyone tried Runeglaive AP Gangplank? It's such a good item for him. AP GP's biggest weakness is waveclear, which is Runeglaive's biggest strength. The two most important stats on AP GP is CDR and AP, which Runeglaive gives. It even gives mana and synergizes with GP's on-hit Q.

Has anyone tried it yet?


Ill try it later :D

AP GP is just passive thru lane then is what, an ult bot for the rest of the game or smn? And dont you give up all your damage without lich?

Pretty much. I feel AP GP's real strength is in his huge instant heal. He's more of an AP bruiser I usually build 2-3 AP items with spirit visage and other tanky items in order to heal for something like 1000 hp every ten seconds. You can get lichebane, but I've always preferred gauntlet for the increased slow, cdr, and armour. But neither really synergize with runeglaive.


then he's an AP bruiser who does no damage, and has no CC....so basically an ult, he's really just an ult. He's entirely ignorable.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
July 12 2015 00:11 GMT
#343
On July 12 2015 04:17 Caiada wrote:
The day boobs are core to a character identity is the day character dies.

I'm pretty sure ahri's boobs are core to her identity as a seductress fox girl.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 12 2015 01:03 GMT
#344
so i was looking at my rune book today. i recognized that i still have some of the old holiday exclusive runes and wondered why riot stopped releasing them. currently they'd give something to sink ip on.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-12 01:15:30
July 12 2015 01:05 GMT
#345
The holiday runes annoy me because it means some of my runes are split between different stacks/names which is a bit awkward to set up quickly. They were cheaper though.

New patch winrates: http://champion.gg/statistics/
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 12 2015 01:20 GMT
#346
On July 12 2015 10:05 Ansibled wrote:
The holiday runes annoy me because it means some of my runes are split between different stacks/names which is a bit awkward to set up quickly. They were cheaper though.

New patch winrates: http://champion.gg/statistics/

And the Donger goes another patch +1 in both solo lanes. Rito pls.
Purge
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada372 Posts
July 12 2015 01:29 GMT
#347
Good lord that brand winrate. Hold onto your hats people with a winrate like that we might finally see pro Brand. Its only taken like 4 years.
"Never do an enemy a small injury." - Machiavelli
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
July 12 2015 01:32 GMT
#348
Support Brand highest win rate in the game
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
July 12 2015 02:05 GMT
#349
Shyv winrate barely declined despite a ~250% increase in playrate.

Also, lol, those Kayle jungle increases. People on that Devourer train.

Ryze is so banned so often his winrate barely changed despite notable itemization improvements. Though maybe RoA losing a chunk of health offset that.

Also, Tahm Kench winrate looks about as expected. Not much of a soloq guy.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 12 2015 03:03 GMT
#350
I think people tried to plau Tahm as support/top too much. I think it is very clear that he can't do neither because his kit is very lacking in damage. He will either jungle or do nothing.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
July 12 2015 03:34 GMT
#351
On July 12 2015 09:05 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 09:03 Sonnington wrote:
On July 12 2015 07:57 Purge wrote:
On July 12 2015 07:22 Sonnington wrote:
Has anyone tried Runeglaive AP Gangplank? It's such a good item for him. AP GP's biggest weakness is waveclear, which is Runeglaive's biggest strength. The two most important stats on AP GP is CDR and AP, which Runeglaive gives. It even gives mana and synergizes with GP's on-hit Q.

Has anyone tried it yet?


Ill try it later :D

AP GP is just passive thru lane then is what, an ult bot for the rest of the game or smn? And dont you give up all your damage without lich?

Pretty much. I feel AP GP's real strength is in his huge instant heal. He's more of an AP bruiser I usually build 2-3 AP items with spirit visage and other tanky items in order to heal for something like 1000 hp every ten seconds. You can get lichebane, but I've always preferred gauntlet for the increased slow, cdr, and armour. But neither really synergize with runeglaive.


then he's an AP bruiser who does no damage, and has no CC....so basically an ult, he's really just an ult. He's entirely ignorable.


It's hard to ignore the Gangplank who has a maxed E hitting your towers. He's a bit like Nunu when he engages a fight. He basically just walks around and does stupid shit until the enemy team engages onto him. You're also forgetting his autos/Q apply a slow and building IBG gives even better chase and catch potential. In any event, it's silly to go full AP on GP given his kit. The heal is his bread and butter AP skill and building defenses on top of it is far more efficient than trying to amp up an ult the enemy can walk out of. Or the .3 ap - .5 ap ratio on runeglaive/lich bane.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 12 2015 04:43 GMT
#352
On July 12 2015 07:49 Purge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 07:13 cLutZ wrote:
On July 12 2015 06:41 Purge wrote:
You people are still going on about MF's boob size? ffs just move on - this is all so cringy.

Alaric just play things that are fun dude. If so many things annoy you this patch then dont play on it. Its not like you're missing much - 5.14 is gonna be so much more fun its insane. Or stop being so overly sensitive.

In other news, I love the AP item overhaul. I cant remember the last time i felt item paths were this flexible. Its awesome. Orianna is so much fun to play now. Anyone messed around with the more situational items (i.e. WotA/Nashors) yet? So much unexplored depth now :D


Its very fun to play AP now, but also makes playing ADC so frustrating now that AP has better/cooler item actives and significantly better build paths.



You gotta be shitting me. Im assuming you're one of those glass is half-empty type people. Stop being a stick in the mud and tell me what creative shit you managed to come up with this patch and how you're fighting against other peoples crazy shit.



??? I'm just saying Ap itemization was already more creative and fun, and now the buildups are also less frustrating.

Also my creative idea is eliminating jungle items, which is way more creative than making NLR reasonably priced.
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-12 04:49:53
July 12 2015 04:48 GMT
#353
FYI on the PBE runeglaive GP can still clear minion waves using barrel. Barrel will not propagate runeglaive damage to other barrels but nevertheless acts like a monster so that AoE damage is still dealt when it's attacked (regardless if it dies). Just like any AoE effect it will work with paaarley. Also, gangplank ult with upgrades has insane damage/AP ratios and just melts things. It's too bad people can just flash out of it. Having lots of AP is fun but feels very gimmicky. Chances are they'll nerf the ult upgrades anyway, the upgraded damage is decent even without any AP.

Lichbane doesn't interact with barrels at all (aside from the proc you get from casting barrel) so it feels really lame.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-12 05:37:50
July 12 2015 05:25 GMT
#354
I've been building Seraph on every pure AP champ so far. It's so much better than Athene's/Morello now if your champion has decent AP ratios. It gives at least 140 AP, depending on how much base mana a champ has. Seraph + fully charged RoA gives ~270.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=obamasappendix
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 12 2015 06:07 GMT
#355
I fucking told you support brand is great. Now its even better with liandry/rylai changes.

I tried him mid a ton and he is way way better as a support IMO.

On July 12 2015 14:25 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
I've been building Seraph on every pure AP champ so far. It's so much better than Athene's/Morello now if your champion has decent AP ratios. It gives at least 140 AP, depending on how much base mana a champ has. Seraph + fully charged RoA gives ~270.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=obamasappendix


except the CDR, many champs with utility need that cdr really badly.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 12 2015 07:05 GMT
#356
LMS is playing Trundle support.... what has this world come to....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-12 07:12:16
July 12 2015 07:08 GMT
#357
On July 12 2015 15:07 sob3k wrote:
I fucking told you support brand is great. Now its even better with liandry/rylai changes.

I tried him mid a ton and he is way way better as a support IMO.

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 14:25 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
I've been building Seraph on every pure AP champ so far. It's so much better than Athene's/Morello now if your champion has decent AP ratios. It gives at least 140 AP, depending on how much base mana a champ has. Seraph + fully charged RoA gives ~270.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=obamasappendix


except the CDR, many champs with utility need that cdr really badly.


Many midlaners have already switched to CDR/lvl gylphs. I pretty much run it exclusively now because it scales far better than AP/lvl. Don't get me wrong. I still think that CDR is a great stat and would definitely build it if I can fit it in my build. However, I've been fine with just the gylph find that the buffed AP items are worth more than the rushing Grail/Book.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 12 2015 12:52 GMT
#358
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-12 13:46:54
July 12 2015 13:38 GMT
#359
Morello is still the best just because it's so much quicker. And now Dcap is an even better second item if you can afford the slightly longer wait. Most significant differences will be after those two, at least for the champs that were already going the standard build path. Rylai's will be picked up more often and so will Liandry's. Probably the best two last items in the game right now on straight casters like Viktor.

On the other hand, RoA champs are now pretty fucking good.

And Karthus with a stronger tear, stronger Dcap, stronger Rylai's and stronger Void is now in lategame heaven. Add in Liandry's and I'd be honestly surprised if we don't see somebody pick him up. Just don't go RoA.
XDG Mata
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 12 2015 14:10 GMT
#360
Anyone tried Singed this patch already? In theory he also got huge buffs from the ap item changes plus a longer snare.
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