EPT[Patch 5.9] Ashe Rework General Discussion - Page 12
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Fildun
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
'So this is what's it like inside the mind of a narcissist.' | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On May 16 2015 01:44 Fildun wrote: Every toplaner that can take ignite kinda wrecks Vlad though, like Garen, Riven, Darius. It's still a Vlad lane though. If he gets ahead once (by jungle ganks for example) you have a very hard time. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
Vlad is also super weak in competitive for, well, the same reason but manifested differently. Also lane swaps. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
On May 16 2015 01:46 Prog wrote: It's still a Vlad lane though. If he gets ahead once (by jungle ganks for example) you have a very hard time. Well, but since it's Vlad he'll be pushing most of the time so it's pretty hard for a jungler to do much, especially because Vlad has no cc. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On May 16 2015 01:46 Doctorbeat wrote: The feeling I had reading Chauster's essay on CLG: 'So this is what's it like inside the mind of a narcissist.' actually agreed with everything chauster said sure he overrated himself but thats about it p much agreed with him about saint/hotshot/chau/dlift/jiji mid being their best iteration actually was a clg fan at that time but unfortunately hotshot wouldn't fucking DROP IT LOL doublelift was a solo pushing garbage adc when he came to clg | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On May 16 2015 01:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Mages is such a broad term, it's all the new age bullshit that are good. Traditional mages are absolutely garbage ATM (and have been for quite a while). i mean that ones that dont blow balls so yeah the new age ones | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On May 16 2015 02:26 Slayer91 wrote: actually agreed with everything chauster said sure he overrated himself but thats about it p much agreed with him about saint/hotshot/chau/dlift/jiji mid being their best iteration actually was a clg fan at that time but unfortunately hotshot wouldn't fucking DROP IT LOL doublelift was a solo pushing garbage adc when he came to clg Oh yeah Chauster's definitely telling a lot of truth but he just can't stop mentioning how top fucking percentage he actually is  I loved CLG during Jiji/Saint era too... Started not liking them about the time when they picked Loco up. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
Cant figure out what his supposed to be, jungler, mid or top? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On May 16 2015 01:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Well the tradeoff is Vlad has relatively little playmaking potential, which is a pretty big drawback in solo queue. Vlad is also super weak in competitive for, well, the same reason but manifested differently. Also lane swaps. That's why he's more annoying top, buncha champs won't take ignite vs him (and the ones who do, if they don't murder him so they can dive him and kill him over and over afterwards will get beaten by the TP plays), and he can just splitpush all day, especially if he's ahead, he'll 1v2 or 1v3 easily especially with the tank junglers. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 16 2015 01:44 Fildun wrote: Every toplaner that can take ignite kinda wrecks Vlad though, like Garen, Riven, Darius. Which is why he is played mid. Also not really. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 16 2015 03:41 Jek wrote: Anyone here tried Ekko on the PBE yet? From streams he look pretty fun to play, but I've rarely seen any of them actually do good (lol). Cant figure out what his supposed to be, jungler, mid or top? He's a mid. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On May 16 2015 03:41 Jek wrote: Anyone here tried Ekko on the PBE yet? From streams he look pretty fun to play, but I've rarely seen any of them actually do good (lol). Cant figure out what his supposed to be, jungler, mid or top? I tried him on the PBE. I'm... just not sure what to think of him. His ult is very weird, I have trouble thinking of ways to use both the offensive and the defensive portion of it except when people decide to sit on my face for 4 seconds so my shadow can catch up and I have zhonyas so I don't die while I wait. At the same time it's pretty funny when people chase you and you kill them by pressing R, that thing scales a crapton with AP. In general his skills are pretty flashy and crowded so I had trouble seeing what was going on, why people were dying, and which of my skills/abilities were killing them. I mean, I read the descriptions, but it takes some getting used to. Jungling could be decent if you can flank from behind so that you can easily trigger W in their retreat path. I feel like it's the least likely option though since, well, it *does* have a 3 second set-up, which is a bajillion years in LoL time. I'm pretty sure Riot intends him to be more on the tons of damage and flashy burst play side of things, so I would stick him mid. That never stopped other APs from going top, though. It's hard to say. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On May 16 2015 04:04 phyvo wrote: I tried him on the PBE. I'm... just not sure what to think of him. His ult is very weird, I have trouble thinking of ways to use both the offensive and the defensive portion of it except when people decide to sit on my face for 4 seconds so my shadow can catch up and I have zhonyas so I don't die while I wait. At the same time it's pretty funny when people chase you and you kill them by pressing R, that thing scales a crapton with AP. In general his skills are pretty flashy and crowded so I had trouble seeing what was going on, why people were dying, and which of my skills/abilities were killing them. I mean, I read the descriptions, but it takes some getting used to. Jungling could be decent if you can flank from behind so that you can easily trigger W in their retreat path. I feel like it's the least likely option though since, well, it *does* have a 3 second set-up, which is a bajillion years in LoL time. I'm pretty sure Riot intends him to be more on the tons of damage and flashy burst play side of things, so I would stick him mid. That never stopped other APs from going top, though. It's hard to say. He has a few common uses: 1. You sit on someone for 4s, or they sit on you. Actually acts like darius ult for this. 2. Someone is chasing you, if they don't have vision of you they can't see your shadow, you can surprise gib them. As an addendum to this, if someone is chasing a teammate you can walk along with your teammate (or ahead of them, as long as you are out of enemy vision), then ult onto the chaser with no warning. The main one is his lategame teamfight combo: E into middle of fight: Q and auto until focused Drop W ontop of yourself in middle of fight, zhonyas If anyone sticks around to kill you they get 2.25s stun, you get 700hp sheild, rewind a bunch of damage, and they all get exploded by your ult. | ||
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phyvo
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