EPT[Patch 5.7] More Executes General Discussion - Page 63
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
As an example new Sion is really good, and a fun champion to play, but I'd like to be able to break out old Sion from time to time too, just a personal preference. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 29 2015 03:59 Seuss wrote: I want to see the numbers, but the changes make sense to me. From the way I read it, hit a 5-man ult and you instantly build up you focus to start wailing on them as a follow-up. Not bad. I'm curious to see how Q's active interacts with her autoattack animation though, as a longer animation for the kiting champion can make her job harder. About the numbers, I assume the initial passive slow will be low (they reworked Sejuani and removed the permaslow from her passive because 10% was pretty meh for a melee champion, but higher and it'd be obnoxious to play against), but being an active with a short duration and a condition on cast I assume her Q will have a lot of power, split between damage and stronger slow. But does that mean she'll get a huge slow, that won't be active for long so it's closer to a very strong, long duration slow on a long cd? Volley's slow is going to be independant from her own, too, I assume, unless it goes with her passive and the latter scales with levels. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On April 29 2015 04:40 739 wrote: Probably the most retarded game I've played in a while. Yi trolls, picks another jungler and goes bot with me, backdoors and some crazy teamfights happens and I land clutch ult on Graves/Fizz while hitting their nexus for the win, lmao. + Show Spoiler + good call on hiding your flaming. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 29 2015 04:41 Slusher wrote: honestly I just dislike reworks on principal so I'd prefer they didn't do it, but as reworks go this looks like one of the more reasonable ones I've seen seeing how far Ashe is kit wise compared to new heroes. As an example new Sion is really good, and a fun champion to play, but I'd like to be able to break out old Sion from time to time too, just a personal preference. > Sion > fun champion to play Slusher, I thought people can't be more filthy than rocking Fizz icon. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
except Yi, we can agree Yi is for role-players | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On April 29 2015 04:42 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: > Sion > fun champion to play Slusher, I thought people can't be more filthy than rocking Fizz icon. Fight me bambi | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On April 29 2015 04:36 Sonnington wrote: you can't shoot your W through minions just take smite | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 29 2015 04:18 GrandInquisitor wrote: You're all approaching this from the perspective of an experienced player. I'm talking about as an absolutely new player, and for example, the number of words you'd need to describe a champion's kit. New Ashe isn't as complex as Kalista, but her Q is definitely much more complex than before. "Hit someone a few times, and you can activate the ability to slow even more and deal bonus damage for a short duration! By the way, when you build crit% on her you improve her damage a bit on slowed enemies, instead of having a chance for a big damage attack as is standard." Note that her passive works on all slowed enemies, not just the one hit by her autos. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On April 29 2015 04:37 wei2coolman wrote: Why are we even entertaining the idea of Ashe change being a bad thing because it'll nerf her in the support role? Because Ashe support was fun! It was actually really good too. She'd build Zeke's and lucidity boots to get 40% cdr and with W maxed it allowed her to apply an 1100 range aoe permaslow. Also her R would be on a 60 second cd and is basically the best catch tool in the game. I used to play it all the time vs WW jungle because no matter who or where he ulted I could instantly end the channel with my ult. She's also really good at bullying a lane, especially with her crit passive. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
For laning phase the passive change means trading against her will be a lot tougher (in theory she gets a free AA or two when you go to back off from AAing her), the Q change is pretty simple I think (stack Focus on minions, pop it when you want to harass/kill enemy ADC/support), the W is a nerf (needed to happen as with currernt W she'd have way too much utility outside of lane phase), E being global (and stacking 2) means a smart Ashe player will be hard to gank when pushing a lane, and the R is exactly the same because it didn't need a change. It's an ADC that doesn't have a built in escape with the potential to kite (based upon how much the slow % is) with decent engage/disengage potential if you can land the ult arrow. It's still Ashe at the core, and for losing the guaranteed crit from max Focus, you instead get bonus damage AND an AS steroid for having max Focus. Overall I think it's a huge buff, plus with the E being global I think we might see her return to competitive play, maybe even the return of C9's Ashe/Zyra bot lane? | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On April 29 2015 04:40 739 wrote: Probably the most retarded game I've played in a while. Yi trolls, picks another jungler and goes bot with me, backdoors and some crazy teamfights happens and I land clutch ult on Graves/Fizz while hitting their nexus for the win, lmao. + Show Spoiler + You think that's bad? I spectated a game yesterday with a Sej that built Shiv/Ghostblade/Zhonya's/Luden's/FuryZerkers/Warmogs and a Diana that went AlacrityMobi/WotA/BT/Ohmwrecker/SV. What's worse? They won their lanes. Hard. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On April 29 2015 04:40 739 wrote: Probably the most retarded game I've played in a while. Yi trolls, picks another jungler and goes bot with me, backdoors and some crazy teamfights happens and I land clutch ult on Graves/Fizz while hitting their nexus for the win, lmao. + Show Spoiler + lol@people still playing ad fizz | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
New patch is out featuring the ryze rework | ||
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