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EsanLOL
Profile Joined January 2015
479 Posts
November 02 2015 22:28 GMT
#3001
On November 03 2015 06:18 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/dexter-elements-residency-free-agent/

Report of dexter declaring NA residency and becoming a free agent.


Would be interesting to see where Dexter could slot in. Brokenshard always loved Dexter and given the fact Dig already apparently has a jungler, I really wouldn't be surprised if it was him.

Personally, I'm not too hot on Dexter. Thought he was pretty mediocre last split and even toward the end of his time on CLG. Think he might be serviceable but that's about it - very much so like Helios in that regard.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 02 2015 22:32 GMT
#3002
On November 03 2015 07:28 EsanLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 06:18 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/dexter-elements-residency-free-agent/

Report of dexter declaring NA residency and becoming a free agent.


Would be interesting to see where Dexter could slot in. Brokenshard always loved Dexter and given the fact Dig already apparently has a jungler, I really wouldn't be surprised if it was him.

Personally, I'm not too hot on Dexter. Thought he was pretty mediocre last split and even toward the end of his time on CLG. Think he might be serviceable but that's about it - very much so like Helios in that regard.


But then again, it depends on what dexter has to work with.
Considering that Gamsu and Core are gone now and Brokenshard wants full English-speaking roster, you'd imagine that those won't be hot imports.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
November 02 2015 22:40 GMT
#3003
I wonder how bad it has to be in Elements that they can't even keep Dexter
You're now breathing manually
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-02 22:50:58
November 02 2015 22:47 GMT
#3004
http://www.twitch.tv/aphromoo

Aphro talking about drama.

He just said 'apparently we aren't friends' about DL and 'DL brings everyone on the team down.'
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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riporter
Profile Joined October 2015
United States5 Posts
November 02 2015 22:52 GMT
#3005
i heard the rain mans shooting for worlds
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 02 2015 23:03 GMT
#3006
On November 03 2015 07:47 Ansibled wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/aphromoo

Aphro talking about drama.

He just said 'apparently we aren't friends' about DL and 'DL brings everyone on the team down.'

Aphro confirms that he will play at IEM for CLG but he's still deciding whether he'll stay on CLG.
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-02 23:07:24
November 02 2015 23:06 GMT
#3007
On November 03 2015 07:40 Sent. wrote:
I wonder how bad it has to be in Elements that they can't even keep Dexter


I mean, Froggen apparently left, and considering that they threw offer to Freeze, easy to assume that Tabzz isn't there anymore as well.

Do you really want to stay in team with Jwaow and Nyph who coached for half a year.

On November 03 2015 08:03 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 07:47 Ansibled wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/aphromoo

Aphro talking about drama.

He just said 'apparently we aren't friends' about DL and 'DL brings everyone on the team down.'

Aphro confirms that he will play at IEM for CLG but he's still deciding whether he'll stay on CLG.


It just doesn't stop, God dammit.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
November 02 2015 23:14 GMT
#3008
On November 03 2015 07:47 Ansibled wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/aphromoo

Aphro talking about drama.

He just said 'apparently we aren't friends' about DL and 'DL brings everyone on the team down.'


So Link "Donezo" "Austin" Shin isn't the villain of this story after all?
xd
bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
November 02 2015 23:21 GMT
#3009
On November 03 2015 08:14 Skitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 07:47 Ansibled wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/aphromoo

Aphro talking about drama.

He just said 'apparently we aren't friends' about DL and 'DL brings everyone on the team down.'


So Link "Donezo" "Austin" Shin isn't the villain of this story after all?

Or maybe they all had some part of the blame for whatever happened. Aphro didn't really dispel much of what DL said. He said he was told a couple days before and assumed DL knew, but he was away so he can't know for certain. He also said he knows DL was told at night so the 2 am text part seems to be right.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 00:07:54
November 03 2015 00:00 GMT
#3010
On November 03 2015 06:18 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/dexter-elements-residency-free-agent/

Report of dexter declaring NA residency and becoming a free agent.

Well this says almost nothing. He becomes a free agent because his contract expires as is publically known and declaring NA residency just makes sense because it gives more options for he future.

Btw I dont think many teams want him.
Off-season = best season
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
November 03 2015 00:09 GMT
#3011
On November 03 2015 09:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 06:18 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/dexter-elements-residency-free-agent/

Report of dexter declaring NA residency and becoming a free agent.

Well this says almost nothing. He becomes a free agent because his contract expires as is publically known and declaring NA residency just makes sense because it gives more options for he future.

Btw I dont think he is highly sought after anymore.


What I don't understand is why would any EU team use an import slot on a player in EU who declares NA as his home region? Doesn't it make sense in almost every circumstance to just find a different European and use the import slot on an LCK/LPL player if they really want to?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 00:18:06
November 03 2015 00:14 GMT
#3012
On November 03 2015 09:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 09:00 Redox wrote:
On November 03 2015 06:18 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/dexter-elements-residency-free-agent/

Report of dexter declaring NA residency and becoming a free agent.

Well this says almost nothing. He becomes a free agent because his contract expires as is publically known and declaring NA residency just makes sense because it gives more options for he future.

Btw I dont think he is highly sought after anymore.


What I don't understand is why would any EU team use an import slot on a player in EU who declares NA as his home region? Doesn't it make sense in almost every circumstance to just find a different European and use the import slot on an LCK/LPL player if they really want to?

Most EU teams dont use their import slots up so in most cases it will not make a difference. I think only Fnatic so far uses 2. Maybe there will be more imports in the future but in any case it will not become as packed as NA so an NA residency will generally be more valuable than an EU one.
Off-season = best season
bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
November 03 2015 00:17 GMT
#3013
On November 03 2015 09:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 09:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:00 Redox wrote:
On November 03 2015 06:18 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/dexter-elements-residency-free-agent/

Report of dexter declaring NA residency and becoming a free agent.

Well this says almost nothing. He becomes a free agent because his contract expires as is publically known and declaring NA residency just makes sense because it gives more options for he future.

Btw I dont think he is highly sought after anymore.


What I don't understand is why would any EU team use an import slot on a player in EU who declares NA as his home region? Doesn't it make sense in almost every circumstance to just find a different European and use the import slot on an LCK/LPL player if they really want to?

Most EU teams dont use their import slots up so in most cases it will not make a difference. I think only Fnatic so far uses 2.

Right, and now if Immortals/Kings/Team Froggen want a jungler who has LCS experience they'll have another option that doesn't impact their import slots. No reason for him not to have done it, especially if the supposed salaries are as high as they are rumored to be.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 03 2015 00:17 GMT
#3014
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/hauntzer-team-solomid/

Report that hauntzer is the front runner for TSM's top lane though Zionspartan is still an option
Glorious SEA doto
Cyraknoss
Profile Joined May 2015
United States26 Posts
November 03 2015 00:18 GMT
#3015
On November 03 2015 09:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 09:00 Redox wrote:
On November 03 2015 06:18 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/dexter-elements-residency-free-agent/

Report of dexter declaring NA residency and becoming a free agent.

Well this says almost nothing. He becomes a free agent because his contract expires as is publically known and declaring NA residency just makes sense because it gives more options for he future.

Btw I dont think he is highly sought after anymore.


What I don't understand is why would any EU team use an import slot on a player in EU who declares NA as his home region? Doesn't it make sense in almost every circumstance to just find a different European and use the import slot on an LCK/LPL player if they really want to?


The going thought is that since imports are rare in EU they will continue to be and so EU players are protected from such a problem and can go wander off to NA for a couple years and come right back to EU and suffer no consequences for their actions.

Obviously though, if you're paying attention you'd notice that imports are increasing in frequency in EU just like they did in NA and there should be legitimate concern about the future for EU players that declare as NA. Then again this is the western LoL scene and it's not like anyone has thought farther than the next worlds into the future before, so why should they start now?
bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 00:23:46
November 03 2015 00:21 GMT
#3016
I'd be happy with Hauntzer. I don't think Gravity's team structure really helped highlight his abilities and think he'll be one of the better tops in NA while not demanding a lot of resources. The only "concern" I have is that we didn't get to see him in the carry top meta at all really just to see how he adapted and what champs he picked up.

On November 03 2015 09:18 Cyraknoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 09:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:00 Redox wrote:
On November 03 2015 06:18 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/dexter-elements-residency-free-agent/

Report of dexter declaring NA residency and becoming a free agent.

Well this says almost nothing. He becomes a free agent because his contract expires as is publically known and declaring NA residency just makes sense because it gives more options for he future.

Btw I dont think he is highly sought after anymore.


What I don't understand is why would any EU team use an import slot on a player in EU who declares NA as his home region? Doesn't it make sense in almost every circumstance to just find a different European and use the import slot on an LCK/LPL player if they really want to?


The going thought is that since imports are rare in EU they will continue to be and so EU players are protected from such a problem and can go wander off to NA for a couple years and come right back to EU and suffer no consequences for their actions.

Obviously though, if you're paying attention you'd notice that imports are increasing in frequency in EU just like they did in NA and there should be legitimate concern about the future for EU players that declare as NA. Then again this is the western LoL scene and it's not like anyone has thought farther than the next worlds into the future before, so why should they start now?

Are imports really increasing that much in EU? There were 3 I believe last season (H2K, FNC) and Dart who never really was a part of Roccat despite being their sub. I'd say they are perfectly safe taking NA residency.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 00:25:55
November 03 2015 00:24 GMT
#3017
Very happy for Hauntzer.
Well-deserved and he's perfect in properly working with Bjergsen/Doublelift duo carry threat.

In theory this team has everything to be competitive internationally with Adrian/Korean jungle import.
Inb4 DanDy/Mata, everything goes down in flames by Week 5~ of LCS Spring.

Yea, I don't think dexter proclaiming himself as NA changes anything.
He just becomes a valuable bandaid option for NA teams in case they want to import more and more and EU is fine without going over line anyway.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 03 2015 00:25 GMT
#3018
Never say never for Meteos. Even if its not Meteos, there's good chance for c9 Rush. C9 members and Rush were quite close during KR bootcamp.

and uh its a tough decision between Hauntzer and Zion. Zion is definitely more experienced and established player, on other hand, Hauntzer had a good season in LCS, and seems to have huge potential.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
November 03 2015 00:25 GMT
#3019
On November 03 2015 09:17 bbc23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 09:14 Redox wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:00 Redox wrote:
On November 03 2015 06:18 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/dexter-elements-residency-free-agent/

Report of dexter declaring NA residency and becoming a free agent.

Well this says almost nothing. He becomes a free agent because his contract expires as is publically known and declaring NA residency just makes sense because it gives more options for he future.

Btw I dont think he is highly sought after anymore.


What I don't understand is why would any EU team use an import slot on a player in EU who declares NA as his home region? Doesn't it make sense in almost every circumstance to just find a different European and use the import slot on an LCK/LPL player if they really want to?

Most EU teams dont use their import slots up so in most cases it will not make a difference. I think only Fnatic so far uses 2.

Right, and now if Immortals/Kings/Team Froggen want a jungler who has LCS experience they'll have another option that doesn't impact their import slots. No reason for him not to have done it, especially if the supposed salaries are as high as they are rumored to be.


Well yea from the player side of things it makes a lot of sense, but from a team looking to grab someone it doesn't. Although if they're not using the import slots than its a moot point.
bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
November 03 2015 00:33 GMT
#3020
On November 03 2015 09:25 Mensol wrote:
Never say never for Meteos. Even if its not Meteos, there's good chance for c9 Rush. C9 members and Rush were quite close during KR bootcamp.

and uh its a tough decision between Hauntzer and Zion. Zion is definitely more experienced and established player, on other hand, Hauntzer had a good season in LCS, and seems to have huge potential.

He said on stream last night that the competitive meta may have just left him behind. He disliked that junglers were forced to buy sightstones and the playstyle they were forced into. I would be bummed if he didn't give it a go at all to try and get into NACS but it wouldn't surprise me either. Regardless he is definitely not who you'd want to be building a team around right now with that kind of mindset.
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