EPT[Patch 5.2] RIP DFG General Discussion - Page 40
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 05 2015 14:39 Sonnington wrote: Hey, is anyone else interested in what the Koreans thought of Impact and Piglet on Inven? Not particularly. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On February 05 2015 14:30 TheHumanSensation wrote: If I get ahead as Shen and need to carry, what's a good offensive item (better than sunfire / thornmail)? Yoiu're never gonna build enough items to become some monster damage threat. I think it's better to build aura items like Locket to help your team and convert your individual advantage into a team advantage. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On February 05 2015 14:38 wei2coolman wrote: triforce is such a nice single item for shen, but I feel if you get it, it's such an expensive item that you'd have to be like 3-4 kills ahead in lane for you to buy it without falling behind in your defensive scaling, and your overall utility. Which is hugely problematic since shen usually just aims to go even in lane anyways, rarely does he ever get a lane where he smashes. The time you do get ahead, is usually your midgame ulti contributions, and by then you already have boots + 2 defensive items, and building 3rd item triforce takes forever, and is a huge pain in the ass. It is expensive, but doesn't the build path allow decent flexibility? It's not like building a IE or Deathcap where you have to wait for a huge sum before you even finish part of the build. Then again with most of the defensive items getting paths from their little cousins (especially now that ruby leads to belt) wouldn't it be best to keep on the defensive stacking? | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 05 2015 14:30 TheHumanSensation wrote: If I get ahead as Shen and need to carry, what's a good offensive item (better than sunfire / thornmail)? #longliveionianspark #longliveatmasimpaler Botrk is actually decent enough, if you want something between stacking 4th hundred armor or 3rd hundred magic resist. On February 05 2015 14:47 lilwisper wrote: It is expensive, but doesn't the build path allow decent flexibility? It's not like building a IE or Deathcap where you have to wait for a huge sum before you even finish part of the build. Then again with most of the defensive items getting paths from their little cousins (especially now that ruby leads to belt) wouldn't it be best to keep on the defensive stacking? Components are kinda useless on Shen, noone will in good mind start him with sheen, for example, because when you compare someone like Malphite with casual sheen and Shen, Shen loses a lot there. Phage sounds cool on paper but you won't buy casual phage in beginning of game either, ultying somewhere just to die sounds bad. Zeal is even worse. Frozen mallet might be good on Shen, but it's so freaking expensive for so little profit that it sucks as well. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 05 2015 14:39 Sonnington wrote: Hey, is anyone else interested in what the Koreans thought of Impact and Piglet on Inven? LET'S HEAR IT. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On February 05 2015 14:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: #longliveionianspark #longliveatmasimpaler Botrk is actually decent enough, if you want something between stacking 4th hundred armor or 3rd hundred magic resist. Components are kinda useless on Shen, noone will in good mind start him with sheen, for example, because when you compare someone like Malphite with casual sheen and Shen, Shen loses a lot there. Phage sounds cool on paper but you won't buy casual phage in beginning of game either, ultying somewhere just to die sounds bad. Zeal is even worse. Frozen mallet might be good on Shen, but it's so freaking expensive for so little profit that it sucks as well. I guess I was looking for the ionic spark replacement, yeah. I wasn't thinking like IE or Tforce due to cost. I was more thinking like, Wits end / Abyssal, or maybe even botrk / spooky ghosts and then the rest as normal. Mostly unsure if AS/on-hit or AP is the way to go. I'll play with it a bit. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 05 2015 15:59 TheHumanSensation wrote: I guess I was looking for the ionic spark replacement, yeah. I wasn't thinking like IE or Tforce due to cost. I was more thinking like, Wits end / Abyssal, or maybe even botrk / spooky ghosts and then the rest as normal. Mostly unsure if AS/on-hit or AP is the way to go. I'll play with it a bit. You don't want AP, as shen you can't spam enough to make it worth getting in a fight. You want BOTRK if you need more carry. Its solid as a single damage item and AS is self synergystic on Shen as your autos reduce ki strike cd (and double when shielded). Shen has no AD ratios so Bork is great for him. | ||
739
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On February 05 2015 11:34 lilwisper wrote: After having a few that grab at your skull, even if they are adjustable, it still is a real pain to wear and I can only empathize with him. If he's using the HyperX cloud(they sponsor the team I believe) I can confirm those earcups where small as hell and most assuredly not comfortable for my ears let alone with glasses. Never compromise on comfort on something you intend to wear for extended periods of time, that's insane to think someone would and I hope they let him use something more comfy for him. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
On February 05 2015 17:54 739 wrote: Isn't Triforce like way better on Shen instead of BOTRK? + Show Spoiler + I know you''ll enjoy this xD | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
On February 05 2015 18:31 M2 wrote: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-vDjVXuwM8 I know you''ll enjoy this xD Dude, Vel'Koz support is the best thing that happened in LoL for a while. In like 75% of games I have most damage dealt in team and carrying hard bot lane 24/7. Can't wait to grind my elo once my goddamn laptop is FIXED. It's over 1 week now that I'm out of League <sadface>. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 05 2015 17:54 739 wrote: Isn't Triforce like way better on Shen instead of BOTRK? It's not way better + I'm not a fan by myself. Like, I'm playing full tank Shen but casual cutlass for 1400 is way more efficient than getting 4th-5th item zeal or sheen. Actually, wit's end is legit, I agree and I completely forgot about hexdrinker. That's what is ok on Shen. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Most of Shen's damage is Q+passive burst in lane, then sunfire, and later that+thornmail, basically, so his passive is also the easier source to itemise for (and AD for your autos won't help your energy regen, on-hit still makes you want AS). | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
On February 05 2015 18:50 krndandaman wrote: TIL dragon can still attack you in a pinked bush at dragon. I was camping the little small bush next to dragon and I pinked it so it was clear. The enemy lee lands a q onto drag from the other side to check and the dragon casually just walks up to me in the bush and attacks me. did not know the attack/aggro range was that big and also did not know dragon has true vision. they increased the range of the dragon this patch ........... and also any1 tried tristana AP/AD? i think both are shit now but i want to hear feedbacks from u all | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 05 2015 18:58 justiceknight wrote: they increased the range of the dragon this patch ........... and also any1 tried tristana AP/AD? i think both are shit now but i want to hear feedbacks from u all Her laning is extremely strong now with aggressive support, you're just forced to go botrk now instead of bt to be relevant in midgame. Forg1ven is right on it, Tristana is going to be fotm in few weeks, in good hands it's such terror now. AP might be kinda awks though, considering that E scales with ad and dfg is dead. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Not sure how it goes into the midgame though, and I'm not particularly a fan of how much she destroys turrets now, as I don't think it was her niche (she already has fast wave pushing early anyway, and range scaling+AS steroid naturally made her good at this), but the impact is undeniable. She's going to be available in the LCS starting next week, right? | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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