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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 05 2015 02:21 GMT
#741
Seems to me that if they've got sponsored gear, the gear should be good enough that they actually like it.

If he can't honestly say that he likes the headset that he's being forced to use, maybe the product being sponsored isn't all that great.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 05 2015 02:23 GMT
#742
If you can CS with an AP champion then you should be able to proc targons with Thresh, especially since he generally uses AD marks.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 05 2015 02:25 GMT
#743
On February 05 2015 11:18 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 10:49 Mensol wrote:
Piglet: I don't like using these headset, It's that it hurts my ears a lot. I have big ears maybe? My left ear here hurts because it sticks out a bit like this.
But for people who wear glasses, the glasses legs sticks the ears out even more and it REALLY hurts my ears when I use my headphones
we are told we HAVE to and MUST use them because it's our sponsor's products.
자.. 잠깐 너무 해석할깨 많아 ㅋㅋㅋ
But you know, it's named a good product is we can play comfortably in the products. but if the products are not comfortable, I can't concentrate and focus on the games because it just keeps bothering me and hurts me
there are logos of the sponsors, why do we have to do that
Also, when we scrim, we don't do it at home. We go to somewhere else to do so. The thing is that it's only a minute or two walking distance, but we all get in a car to go and it's frustrating.
we go around 12 but wouldn't it be better to warm up if we just run solo queue around 10:30 to warm up for scrims and then maybe people who want to go acn go
and maybe people who can stay at home to play on our own computer could, I wish they would fix that Also when I was in SKT, we just practiced in the dorms, and we moved. but the new place had two separate place for practice room and sleeping room and it was bothersome.
we have out own computers and like having a private room would be nice where we can just be comfortable to practice and game and live.


lol what.

DUDE if you've never played 10+ hours a day with glasses and shitty headset you have no idea how big of a deal that is. I'm not sure whats the point of scrimming somewhere you're not living at, it sounds like just some extra work. Whichever team Piglet is in needs to step their shit up

It's been a big craze to have separate living and work spaces this year, assuming that is lets players relax more when they aren't scrimming and be more try hard when they are by associating the different areas with different mentalities.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
February 05 2015 02:26 GMT
#744
I don't think we can judge the headset just because it's really uncomfortable for Piglet (different people like different headsets and people with glasses need much softer ones) but I being forced to play with headset that hurts sucks Brian Cox
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 02:28:19
February 05 2015 02:27 GMT
#745
On February 05 2015 11:23 GolemMadness wrote:
If you can CS with an AP champion then you should be able to proc targons with Thresh, especially since he generally uses AD marks.

I can't though. Also as an AP if I miss 1, 2 or 3 creeps then I can notice that I'm autoattacking them too fast and readjust. As Thresh my ADC doesn't let me have any farm. Also Thresh has a pretty long windup. Also in fucking plat I rarely have ADCs who let me have cannons/melees so I also have to try to hit the minion before he does.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 05 2015 02:30 GMT
#746
On February 05 2015 10:45 Gahlo wrote:
Apparently the LP gains bug has been fixed, proceed to rank as you please.


I liked getting 12 lp more than having afk every game, actually.
Can I have lp gains bug back?
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 05 2015 02:31 GMT
#747
On February 05 2015 11:27 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 11:23 GolemMadness wrote:
If you can CS with an AP champion then you should be able to proc targons with Thresh, especially since he generally uses AD marks.

I can't though. Also as an AP if I miss 1, 2 or 3 creeps then I can notice that I'm autoattacking them too fast and readjust. As Thresh my ADC doesn't let me have any farm. Also Thresh has a pretty long windup. Also in fucking plat I rarely have ADCs who let me have cannons/melees so I also have to try to hit the minion before he does.


Do you ping the minions you're going to go for? With AD marks + E passive you'll do more damage than your ADC early, so at least you should get every cannon minion unless something wacky happens.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
February 05 2015 02:34 GMT
#748
On February 05 2015 11:26 Scip wrote:
I don't think we can judge the headset just because it's really uncomfortable for Piglet (different people like different headsets and people with glasses need much softer ones) but I being forced to play with headset that hurts sucks Brian Cox


After having a few that grab at your skull, even if they are adjustable, it still is a real pain to wear and I can only empathize with him.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
February 05 2015 02:35 GMT
#749
On February 05 2015 11:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 11:18 Scip wrote:
On February 05 2015 10:49 Mensol wrote:
Piglet: I don't like using these headset, It's that it hurts my ears a lot. I have big ears maybe? My left ear here hurts because it sticks out a bit like this.
But for people who wear glasses, the glasses legs sticks the ears out even more and it REALLY hurts my ears when I use my headphones
we are told we HAVE to and MUST use them because it's our sponsor's products.
자.. 잠깐 너무 해석할깨 많아 ㅋㅋㅋ
But you know, it's named a good product is we can play comfortably in the products. but if the products are not comfortable, I can't concentrate and focus on the games because it just keeps bothering me and hurts me
there are logos of the sponsors, why do we have to do that
Also, when we scrim, we don't do it at home. We go to somewhere else to do so. The thing is that it's only a minute or two walking distance, but we all get in a car to go and it's frustrating.
we go around 12 but wouldn't it be better to warm up if we just run solo queue around 10:30 to warm up for scrims and then maybe people who want to go acn go
and maybe people who can stay at home to play on our own computer could, I wish they would fix that Also when I was in SKT, we just practiced in the dorms, and we moved. but the new place had two separate place for practice room and sleeping room and it was bothersome.
we have out own computers and like having a private room would be nice where we can just be comfortable to practice and game and live.


lol what.

DUDE if you've never played 10+ hours a day with glasses and shitty headset you have no idea how big of a deal that is. I'm not sure whats the point of scrimming somewhere you're not living at, it sounds like just some extra work. Whichever team Piglet is in needs to step their shit up

It's been a big craze to have separate living and work spaces this year, assuming that is lets players relax more when they aren't scrimming and be more try hard when they are by associating the different areas with different mentalities.

I have heard of such things but I'm not convinced. Can any pro players who are forced to do that actually confirm that it helps them focus better?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 05 2015 02:36 GMT
#750
On February 05 2015 11:31 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 11:27 AlterKot wrote:
On February 05 2015 11:23 GolemMadness wrote:
If you can CS with an AP champion then you should be able to proc targons with Thresh, especially since he generally uses AD marks.

I can't though. Also as an AP if I miss 1, 2 or 3 creeps then I can notice that I'm autoattacking them too fast and readjust. As Thresh my ADC doesn't let me have any farm. Also Thresh has a pretty long windup. Also in fucking plat I rarely have ADCs who let me have cannons/melees so I also have to try to hit the minion before he does.


Do you ping the minions you're going to go for? With AD marks + E passive you'll do more damage than your ADC early, so at least you should get every cannon minion unless something wacky happens.

What I mean is that I get stressed that he'll ignore my claim for that minion and take it from me anyway and thus try to contest it rather than just calmly lasthit, which often makes me attack it too early, or focus too much on it and forget about lane positioning etc. Dunno about pinging, sometimes I try to do that and some ADCs will let me while others won't. Other times adcs will let me without pinging, and I personally hate pings so I try not too use them too much :f

On February 05 2015 11:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 11:18 Scip wrote:
On February 05 2015 10:49 Mensol wrote:
Piglet: I don't like using these headset, It's that it hurts my ears a lot. I have big ears maybe? My left ear here hurts because it sticks out a bit like this.
But for people who wear glasses, the glasses legs sticks the ears out even more and it REALLY hurts my ears when I use my headphones
we are told we HAVE to and MUST use them because it's our sponsor's products.
자.. 잠깐 너무 해석할깨 많아 ㅋㅋㅋ
But you know, it's named a good product is we can play comfortably in the products. but if the products are not comfortable, I can't concentrate and focus on the games because it just keeps bothering me and hurts me
there are logos of the sponsors, why do we have to do that
Also, when we scrim, we don't do it at home. We go to somewhere else to do so. The thing is that it's only a minute or two walking distance, but we all get in a car to go and it's frustrating.
we go around 12 but wouldn't it be better to warm up if we just run solo queue around 10:30 to warm up for scrims and then maybe people who want to go acn go
and maybe people who can stay at home to play on our own computer could, I wish they would fix that Also when I was in SKT, we just practiced in the dorms, and we moved. but the new place had two separate place for practice room and sleeping room and it was bothersome.
we have out own computers and like having a private room would be nice where we can just be comfortable to practice and game and live.


lol what.

DUDE if you've never played 10+ hours a day with glasses and shitty headset you have no idea how big of a deal that is. I'm not sure whats the point of scrimming somewhere you're not living at, it sounds like just some extra work. Whichever team Piglet is in needs to step their shit up

It's been a big craze to have separate living and work spaces this year, assuming that is lets players relax more when they aren't scrimming and be more try hard when they are by associating the different areas with different mentalities.

That's why this is interesting - it's been the craze among managers, and community was like "oh my god esports are so mature", but apparently there are players who don't like it. I don't really understand myself how it's a big deal, if the players lived by themselves or in groups of 2-3 and had to get to work by themselves then sure it's a pretty clear distinction between living and working environment and perhaps something changes for them. But as Piglet described, it's just that they move out of room with 5 computers, get in a car to drive for 5 minutes (instead of walking for 15) and go to a room with 5 computers.

btw what happened to the dog?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2015 02:42 GMT
#751
Also remember that most players are like 20something, and being a pro player is their first job, so they have no concept of how real world works.
liftlift > tsm
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
February 05 2015 02:47 GMT
#752
On February 05 2015 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Also remember that most players are like 20something, and being a pro player is their first job, so they have no concept of how real world works.

If only they had a concept of how real world works, they'd all love this idea of 5 of them not playing at home where they could just all be in 1 room playing together, but instead walking to some other place where the 5 of them are in 1 room playing together.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2015 02:52 GMT
#753
On February 05 2015 11:47 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Also remember that most players are like 20something, and being a pro player is their first job, so they have no concept of how real world works.

If only they had a concept of how real world works, they'd all love this idea of 5 of them not playing at home where they could just all be in 1 room playing together, but instead walking to some other place where the 5 of them are in 1 room playing together.

No, they wouldn't understand why professional work environment that's separated from their personal life is a good idea.
liftlift > tsm
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
February 05 2015 02:55 GMT
#754
I think the thought process behind the separate rooms/buildings for training/scrims when compared to the house is to try and get the players in a similar mindset for when they travel to do pro matches and to be sort of like, "solo Q is meant for fun and streaming at the house, the training room is for serious mode learning and team work building."

As for the headset thing can't he just wear it around his neck if they bother him? Use earbuds for listening to music and position the headset so the mic is near his mouth? As someone who also wears glasses if you don't find a headset that has a lot of give/leeway for the ears it gets really painful when you wear it for hours on end, as it feels like your head is getting pinched together even if the headset has ample room.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 05 2015 02:56 GMT
#755
On February 05 2015 11:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 11:47 Scip wrote:
On February 05 2015 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Also remember that most players are like 20something, and being a pro player is their first job, so they have no concept of how real world works.

If only they had a concept of how real world works, they'd all love this idea of 5 of them not playing at home where they could just all be in 1 room playing together, but instead walking to some other place where the 5 of them are in 1 room playing together.

No, they wouldn't understand why professional work environment that's separated from their personal life is a good idea.

How is it personal life if they are living together with their teammates and under a schedule?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2015 02:59 GMT
#756
On February 05 2015 11:56 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 11:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2015 11:47 Scip wrote:
On February 05 2015 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Also remember that most players are like 20something, and being a pro player is their first job, so they have no concept of how real world works.

If only they had a concept of how real world works, they'd all love this idea of 5 of them not playing at home where they could just all be in 1 room playing together, but instead walking to some other place where the 5 of them are in 1 room playing together.

No, they wouldn't understand why professional work environment that's separated from their personal life is a good idea.

How is it personal life if they are living together with their teammates and under a schedule?

Living with a co-worker is different than working with one. 2 different environments.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 05 2015 03:10 GMT
#757
Why is there a room with 5 computers in it in the "house" if they have a scrim workplace?
Freeeeeeedom
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
February 05 2015 03:12 GMT
#758
On February 05 2015 11:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 11:56 AlterKot wrote:
On February 05 2015 11:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2015 11:47 Scip wrote:
On February 05 2015 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Also remember that most players are like 20something, and being a pro player is their first job, so they have no concept of how real world works.

If only they had a concept of how real world works, they'd all love this idea of 5 of them not playing at home where they could just all be in 1 room playing together, but instead walking to some other place where the 5 of them are in 1 room playing together.

No, they wouldn't understand why professional work environment that's separated from their personal life is a good idea.

How is it personal life if they are living together with their teammates and under a schedule?

Living with a co-worker is different than working with one. 2 different environments.


This is a personal / cultural preference. Clearly there are Korean players who are less comfortable with modern American practices than the practices they used in Korea. Clearly there are American players who are more comfortable with modern American practices than the practices they were using before.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 05 2015 03:14 GMT
#759
On February 05 2015 11:21 Ketara wrote:
Seems to me that if they've got sponsored gear, the gear should be good enough that they actually like it.

If he can't honestly say that he likes the headset that he's being forced to use, maybe the product being sponsored isn't all that great.


people don't advertise shit because it's good, they advertise it because they are receiving fat stacks in return
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 05 2015 03:16 GMT
#760
Also I'd still argue that people are the biggest part of what "work environment" is. So if you live with a coworker, there are still many people you mostly see and interact with at work. In this case I'd argue that unless they have at least 3 people from staff there who don't live with them then I still refuse to call it a separation.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
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