The fourth Scipaeus Jungling Challenge with Olaf is over! Worryingly enough, it was Slayer91 who once again won the Hall of Fame award. It makes me wonder, is there something inherently better about european junglers? But nevermind that, if you are interested in a truly silly clear, here I present you with a 3:13 run: + Show Spoiler +
Is 3:13 a fast clear? It seemed fast. And would you do the 1 tower hit strat every time if you'd jungle him? And also: how viable would you say he is atm?
His jungling is fine, good clear and ganks, but no matter top lane or jungle I reeeeally struggle with him in lategame teamfights. To pop your ulti is to signal the enemy team to focus you, but without ulti (and ghost) you can do nothing.
On February 03 2015 21:10 kongoline wrote: ahri rushed dfg only recently because of her mana buffs(uneeded if u ask me), earlier people used to rush grail/morello and dcap and did just fine
DFG has always been first on ahri, nobody has ever rushed grail except for Xpeke.
To be fair, at that point everyone rushed Grail, before it was nerfed (then everyone rushed Morello). But yes, she did that too, and yes, she still killed people, she just didn't 100-0 without ignite off of her first item.
On February 03 2015 20:12 Uldridge wrote: Is 3:13 a fast clear? It seemed fast. And would you do the 1 tower hit strat every time if you'd jungle him? And also: how viable would you say he is atm?
Yes, 3:13 is a really fast clear, lol. In real games you often see junglers 40-50 seconds slower (if they go for a 6 camp clear at all). I wouldn't do the 1 tower hit strat in a real game, because I wouldn't feel like making the enemy team aware just how low on hp I drop while clearing, although they should know already. I know it's a bit gimmicky, but why not until people catch on. I think he is one of the strongest junglers atm, that's why I play exclusively him in soloQ atm.
On February 03 2015 22:56 Gahlo wrote: Sounds like a child if you ask me.
why, because he expresses disappointment or because he feels disappointment?
On February 03 2015 20:12 Uldridge wrote: Is 3:13 a fast clear? It seemed fast. And would you do the 1 tower hit strat every time if you'd jungle him? And also: how viable would you say he is atm?
Yes, 3:13 is a really fast clear, lol. In real games you often see junglers 40-50 seconds slower (if they go for a 6 camp clear at all). I wouldn't do the 1 tower hit strat in a real game, because I wouldn't feel like making the enemy team aware just how low on hp I drop while clearing, although they should know already. I know it's a bit gimmicky, but why not until people catch on. I think he is one of the strongest junglers atm, that's why I play exclusively him in soloQ atm.
No, the tower shot wasn't important at all. It sped up the clear by maybe 1-2 seconds? At most. I'd obviously use different runes and masteries for Olaf in a real game though. I go 9/21/0 masteries and flat AD quints+marks, flat CDR blues and eith scaling armor or scaling HP yellows (depending on the enemy teamcomp).
How do you do teamfights? I feel like Olaf is really weak in that regard. Either you ghost+ulti and get nuked or you don't and don't contribute anything.
On February 03 2015 23:05 Osmoses wrote: How do you do teamfights? I feel like Olaf is really weak in that regard. Either you ghost+ulti and get nuked or you don't and don't contribute anything.
you don't go in first 2 screens in front of your team
Depends on what phase of the game it is. When you are level6-9ish, when you are on your way to getting warrior enchantment or got it already, you are a massive damage dealer. You don't want to be focused, because you are somewhat squishy but you have pretty much the highest damage in the entire game, so wait around until the fight starts, and start wrecking the melees or whoever gets split off with your axes and autoattacks. Once you get Righteous Glory, you are still a massive damage dealer, but Righteous Glory really allows you to get on top of the squishies. It depends on your teamcomp, if you have other melees to dive with you (like Leona, Irelia, Gnar), you might just want to run at their squishies with them and focus them down very quickly. If you are rocking double AP with something like Rumble, you probably want to play it very similiar to the lvl6-9 teamfights, and just focus the melees, and use Righteous Glory to allow your team to fight in a better position and get better picks. In the lategame, after you get a tanky item or 2, you are no longer a massive damage dealer. Now your teamfighting style depends on both enemy teamcomp and your teamcomp. If the enemy has assasins like Fizz or Leblanc that can totally wreck your squishies regardless of your involvement, it might the best to rush the enemy squishies in response. If your backline can survive the onslaught (maybe you have sufficient countermeasures like Lulu Janna or something), then focus melees or whoever comes close. If the enemy team doesn't have such powerful assasins, you probably still want to focus the melees, unless their backline is both vulnerable and stronger than yours. There are tons of circumstances I haven't mentioned, but I think this is the gist of it. Olaf isn't really any weaker in teamfights than other junglers are imo. I suspect you might find him weak in teamfights due to inappropriate use of axes. You can lose 1000's of damage by throwing it a bit too far or off to a side.
The assumed build is Stalker's, Warriors, Righteous Glory, tanky items (mostly Locket, Randuins, perhaps GA, Thormail).
I know some people appreaciate the real and honest answers some pros (Tabbz, Forgiven, Rekkles) give in their ask.fm but that post was just something you don't say publicly especially when your team is already under heavy criticism despite being 3-1 and your transfer during the off season raised a lot of eyebrows. Evidently Elements thoughts this was a pr nightmate, too since he already deactivated his account a few hours after creating it.