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On October 22 2014 04:13 Alaric wrote:
I mean he built DFG->sorcs->Deathcap->Void and then he's building FH.
I lost it when he said in all chat "uh, guys, your team has 3 QSSes".
Yeah I think the enemy team building so much MR just for WW and fiddle opened many options for the full build Renekton lel
Game was hilarious but yeah same feeling, I suck dick at this game and he does this sort of stuff... :'(
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On October 22 2014 03:36 iCanada wrote:
Rito pls, bring jungle changes back to the pbe so Monte can give me sweet sweet sweet info.
With my luck when it comes back they'll have completely changed everything from what it was so all my previous testing will have been for naught.
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On October 22 2014 04:29 -Zoda- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2014 04:13 Alaric wrote:
I mean he built DFG->sorcs->Deathcap->Void and then he's building FH.
I lost it when he said in all chat "uh, guys, your team has 3 QSSes". Yeah I think the enemy team building so much MR just for WW and fiddle opened many options for the full build Renekton lel Game was hilarious but yeah same feeling, I suck dick at this game and he does this sort of stuff... :'(
You could do the same thing if playing on an account a full tier behind your real elo. That is just how it works. For him diamond 1 is like bronze for you.
But still I have no idea how ap WW works, ult has AD scaling lol.
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On October 22 2014 04:41 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2014 04:29 -Zoda- wrote:On October 22 2014 04:13 Alaric wrote:
I mean he built DFG->sorcs->Deathcap->Void and then he's building FH.
I lost it when he said in all chat "uh, guys, your team has 3 QSSes". Yeah I think the enemy team building so much MR just for WW and fiddle opened many options for the full build Renekton lel Game was hilarious but yeah same feeling, I suck dick at this game and he does this sort of stuff... :'( You could do the same thing if playing on an account a full tier behind your real elo. That is just how it works. For him diamond 1 is like bronze for you. But still I have no idea how ap WW works, ult has AD scaling lol.
Ult does alright damage without any AD anyway (who builds AD on warwick anyway?). Q has ap scaling + DFG + lichbane proc is pretty decent burst. Obviously not on the level of an actual ap champion but it's better than AP caitlyn
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On October 22 2014 04:13 Alaric wrote:
I mean he built DFG->sorcs->Deathcap->Void and then he's building FH.
I lost it when he said in all chat "uh, guys, your team has 3 QSSes".
The trick is that people underestimate the damage from his passive. Once you add DFG and Lichbane(or Nashor's) you get a pretty decently high ratio and base damage.
Infinite Duress is actually perfectly timed so that you get the Lichbane proc off and a second one as soon as you come out of it. The main thing though is that your high burst damage and lock down makes it easy to snowball in the mid game.
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4 crits on a row by a Shaco with 35% (crit cloak + Shiv). I'm pretty much done.
Or maybe the Riven with Hydra/LW/BT healing for 200+ per hit on me during her ult, nvm my thornmail and Randuin's. Urgh.
(Also the premade of smurfs dumping on our Lux who definitely wasn't at our level either, for some more discrepancy.)
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On October 21 2014 19:25 JazzVortical wrote:
Seems like Gnar is pretty much ban/pick in Korean solo queue at the moment. Anyone play him much and can offer some reasoning?
Has nothing to do with his Korean pick rates, but I've been playing him in the jungle a lot and it feels really good / solid / fun. Takes a lot of practicing to get the routes down right for ganking and such, but it's actually not nearly as difficult / impossible to plan as it seems once you figure it out, although counter-ganking is still very difficult for him. It's probably made me a better jungler overall tbh which might be clouding my perception of strength.
I haven't broken it out in ranked yet (I typically duo queue bot and I'm only silver so it wouldn't mean much anyway) but I've played normals with it and done a lot of testing so I feel good about it. I'm not good enough to write a TL guide but if you want to pick up Gnar (jungle optional) and need a run-down let me know.
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On October 22 2014 05:22 Alaric wrote:
4 crits on a row by a Shaco with 35% (crit cloak + Shiv). I'm pretty much done.
Or maybe the Riven with Hydra/LW/BT healing for 200+ per hit on me during her ult, nvm my thornmail and Randuin's. Urgh.
(Also the premade of smurfs dumping on our Lux who definitely wasn't at our level either, for some more discrepancy.)
More like 3 in a row, the first shot due to deceive is always a crit, and I'm pretty sure if you lost that game, it wasn't because of 3 crits in a row.
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Na he was chasing me. The 4 last attacks from him and the clone crit, but deceive wasn't used for them, it was earlier.
EUW is lagging hard ti seems, ping and all is fine but big freezes in game.
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LITERALLY DEFINITION OF ELO HELL
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On October 22 2014 05:47 FinestHour wrote:
LITERALLY DEFINITION OF ELO HELL
you wanna know what true ELO hell is? I laned vs a viktor while lagging, normally NBD. but this time all his lasers animations just looped forever. by ten minutes in i couldnt dodge lasers because they were going off almost across the entire lane and i didn't know which were real.
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Mark my words, Azir is going to been FotM soon. Holy molly the birdman is scary in capable hands.
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I was playing Viktor against Katarina, was the reverse. My lasers didn't show at first (and the arm animation didn't play), the animation for my Q-powered auto didn't play either so I never knew whether it went off or not, and I couldn't easily try to bait Kat or E her from the edge of the range because if I lagged or the spell flew out with a delay she had a free shunpo dodge on it.
It was stupidly tense. ;_; At one point I could have killed her but we ended up both flashing away from each other because she saw she was losing and I was afraid my spell wouldn't go off and her W would come off cd.
Oh wow Scarra is versus Irelia on stream, as Viktor. RIP.
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On October 22 2014 05:45 Alaric wrote:
Na he was chasing me. The 4 last attacks from him and the clone crit, but deceive wasn't used for them, it was earlier.
EUW is lagging hard ti seems, ping and all is fine but big freezes in game.
You know Shaco always crits when backstabbing, right? It's his passive.
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No he does 20% bonus damage, but he doesn't crit, that's his innate passive. Deceive only makes the hit out of it crit, which can also stack with backstab.
Scarra 0-6-0, RIP.
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i think azir is somewhat team reliant. he is fully capable of wrecking the entire enemy team (i got two quadra kills in a game yesterday), but that was with 2 solid tanks peeling/cc'ing. if he has a solid frontline, yeah he can dominate, and it just keeps ramping up as he finishes items. 6 item azir might be the most fun i have had in LoL in months. it is hilarious.
without that frontline tho, he is decidedly less fun to play. you have to be much more careful about where you q soldiers to, and save your e/r to reposition/peel for yourself. with proper peel you can use e/r offensively and dominate.
his laning phase is also quite good against a lot of champs. i was up 90 cs by 20 min in the game yesterday vs talon. I've found that i dont really get kills without my jungler ganking, but i can poke people out of lane nonstop.
his item builds are quite flexible also. i've built a huge variety of ap/mana/cdr items on him and it doesnt seem to matter much. his damage is still nuts.
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On October 22 2014 06:33 Alaric wrote:
No he does 20% bonus damage, but he doesn't crit, that's his innate passive. Deceive only makes the hit out of it crit, which can also stack with backstab.
Scarra 0-6-0, RIP.
Irelia is really strong against Viktor after first back. Its a really painful lane
edit: worse since he maxed and evolved Q first.
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On October 22 2014 06:33 Alaric wrote:
No he does 20% bonus damage, but he doesn't crit, that's his innate passive. Deceive only makes the hit out of it crit, which can also stack with backstab.
Scarra 0-6-0, RIP.
Yeah, but backstabs give crit text. I mean it's possible he hit you for 240% four times, but I bet he didn't.
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That's not that she's "really strong". She can just 100-0 him whenever she wishes too, it's a supremely one-sided lane, even if you kill her and get more farm, once she's level 5+ and has a few stats (either a sheen, or pieces of phage for tankiness/dps) she just straight-up murders you again and again. That's the kind of lane you suggest someone you don't like if you want to see him afk in fountain. 
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