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[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 84

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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 21 2014 17:14 GMT
#1661
I think this is a problem with the internet in general where ragers think everyone else is a rager just like them, they can't tell that they are exceptionally unpleasant.

I've been playing online games as a primary hobby for just about 10 years now, posted on all kinds of forums, etc etc, and you know how many times I've been punished/banned/muted, etc? Zero. And this is normal. I'm not some exceptional angel, it's just really easy to follow the important rules and not be an asshole.
I am the Town Medic.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 21 2014 17:16 GMT
#1662
Ok once I was playing Helm's Deep vArse on BW and I was Saruman and my Uruk Commander made the dumbest fucking play ever so I had to rage at him for a minute. But it was all cool.
I am the Town Medic.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 17:17:20
October 21 2014 17:16 GMT
#1663
On October 22 2014 02:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 02:01 Alzadar wrote:
Is this a serious problem? Troll reported in near 100% of games? For every single story of someone being wrongfully banned for false reports there is an accompanying Riot log-dump of the player being a banworthy jerk.

Only if you have a persecution complex.
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 02:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
On October 22 2014 02:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Or-or-or, you don't get people mad.

grinding out 10 games every 4 days of co-op vs AI will reduce your chat restriction drastically more than trying to improve your behavior, unless you are just the biggest most colossal asshole who deliberately tries to piss people off every game.

Or you could just not get reported in the first place by not being an asshole.

you can hate if you want, but working around a system is always going to be more effective than trying to force yourself to be constrained by it. people who rage don't just decide not to do it and it fixes everything. :/
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 21 2014 17:17 GMT
#1664
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asymptotech
Profile Joined May 2013
United States295 Posts
October 21 2014 17:32 GMT
#1665
On October 22 2014 02:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 02:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 22 2014 02:01 Alzadar wrote:
Is this a serious problem? Troll reported in near 100% of games? For every single story of someone being wrongfully banned for false reports there is an accompanying Riot log-dump of the player being a banworthy jerk.

Only if you have a persecution complex.
On October 22 2014 02:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
On October 22 2014 02:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Or-or-or, you don't get people mad.

grinding out 10 games every 4 days of co-op vs AI will reduce your chat restriction drastically more than trying to improve your behavior, unless you are just the biggest most colossal asshole who deliberately tries to piss people off every game.

Or you could just not get reported in the first place by not being an asshole.

you can hate if you want, but working around a system is always going to be more effective than trying to force yourself to be constrained by it. people who rage don't just decide not to do it and it fixes everything. :/


Well, then they can stay banned. If you have to 'force yourself' to not act like an asshole, I sure won't miss you.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 21 2014 17:32 GMT
#1666
On October 22 2014 02:17 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 02:14 Alzadar wrote:
I think this is a problem with the internet in general where ragers think everyone else is a rager just like them, they can't tell that they are exceptionally unpleasant.

I've been playing online games as a primary hobby for just about 10 years now, posted on all kinds of forums, etc etc, and you know how many times I've been punished/banned/muted, etc? Zero. And this is normal. I'm not some exceptional angel, it's just really easy to follow the important rules and not be an asshole.


On top of that, you can be a smart asshole and just stop yourself before escalating things to ban territory. The people who get banned have a problem with both attitude and self control.

anytime you've been reported, you can't just stop playing or it can result in a chat restriction because of the rolling checks. if at any point in time the 1-3 reports you got hit a point where they happen a "majority" of the time you'll get punished. if you stop playing for a week after hitting 2 reports in a game, if that game was the only game that day, you'll get punished before you come back. even for only 1 game of bad behavior. because the system just sees you being reported twice per game played in that segment of time.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
October 21 2014 17:33 GMT
#1667
We'll troll reports do happen but for the most part they don't effect normal players because normal players don't get enough reports to even be considered for monitoring by the chat restricted system. I only play a few games per week and never get report notifications. I likely do get some reports though.

If you're already flagged as bad it could be very easy to get intermittent reports to hit a punishment if you don't play a lot, even if you're good. This is, more or less, just due to small number variance.

The key is that you have already had to been flagged. I don't know if you can get unflagged but I would hope their system is time and not game based.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 17:39:11
October 21 2014 17:34 GMT
#1668
On October 22 2014 02:17 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 02:14 Alzadar wrote:
I think this is a problem with the internet in general where ragers think everyone else is a rager just like them, they can't tell that they are exceptionally unpleasant.

I've been playing online games as a primary hobby for just about 10 years now, posted on all kinds of forums, etc etc, and you know how many times I've been punished/banned/muted, etc? Zero. And this is normal. I'm not some exceptional angel, it's just really easy to follow the important rules and not be an asshole.


On top of that, you can be a smart asshole and just stop yourself before escalating things to ban territory. The people who get banned have a problem with both attitude and self control.


Well, I don't know about that. I've been banned 2 times in season 2 (short bans) and both these bans happened after huge loss streaks where I played with the exact same people (I was around top100 at the time so pretty much playing with the same guys all the time). As you can probably guess I didn't rage at all in these losses but rather was raged at and probably reported a lot "for being bad" or "ebay motherfucker" or something along these lines.

Since then I've never been banned again so maybe the system has improved but I'm nowhere near the rank I had in season2 so I'd guess that problem still exists.

Edit : on my smurf yesterday I had a popup telling me that I had been reported for "offensive language" and that I should calm down etc. I didn't write a single word this game, not even gg. I was playing Teemo though.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 17:42:21
October 21 2014 17:38 GMT
#1669
On October 22 2014 02:33 Goumindong wrote:
We'll troll reports do happen but for the most part they don't effect normal players because normal players don't get enough reports to even be considered for monitoring by the chat restricted system. I only play a few games per week and never get report notifications. I likely do get some reports though.

If you're already flagged as bad it could be very easy to get intermittent reports to hit a punishment if you don't play a lot, even if you're good. This is, more or less, just due to small number variance.

The key is that you have already had to been flagged. I don't know if you can get unflagged but I would hope their system is time and not game based.

it is absolutely game based, and not time based. my smurf got a chat restiction after a day of drunken games followed by a break from games of 5 days, and i asked support about it, player behavior dept specifically told me.
Any reports received during the restriction will only cause them to continue, until the system observes a significant change. There is no "decay" on the chat restriction system. You must be actively playing games to show the system you are reforming.


So pretty much grinding games is the only way to get out of the system or avoid punishment.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 21 2014 17:43 GMT
#1670
LOOK OUT NO MORG KAWAII SKIN 4 U
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 21 2014 17:56 GMT
#1671
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 18:02:35
October 21 2014 18:02 GMT
#1672
Got one for you Scip.
Our line-up ended up being Riven (first pick) J4 Tristana Lucian Thresh. Guess.

+ Show Spoiler +
3 AD main, first pick chose top instead to be nice to the others (he ended up raging in game). 4th pick threatened to go AP Ashe mid, then AP Shaco mid. In the end he locked Lucian (against Syndra... yeah sure). Tristana offered to go mid and play AP since we were all-physical otherwise. Lucian ignored her in champ select but started flaming and spamming that he was mid ("helped" with pings) so Trist should move.
A bit sad is how Thresh died when they invaded because he didn't pay attention so when AP Trist had to go bot she couldn't even hit 2 first and all-in. Later my EQ as J4 went right through Leona, we started following her since she'd have died otherwise and ~10s (and a TP and jungle hecarim ult) later, Hecarim had a triple because the other 2 didn't pull back. Game wasn't pretty and, well, let's just say I'm not into promos again. x)


<3
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 21 2014 18:05 GMT
#1673
I get back from vacation and what do I find?

PBE still doesn't have jungle changes.

I am disappoint.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 21 2014 18:19 GMT
#1674
On October 22 2014 03:02 Alaric wrote:
Got one for you Scip.
Our line-up ended up being Riven (first pick) J4 Tristana Lucian Thresh. Guess.

+ Show Spoiler +
3 AD main, first pick chose top instead to be nice to the others (he ended up raging in game). 4th pick threatened to go AP Ashe mid, then AP Shaco mid. In the end he locked Lucian (against Syndra... yeah sure). Tristana offered to go mid and play AP since we were all-physical otherwise. Lucian ignored her in champ select but started flaming and spamming that he was mid ("helped" with pings) so Trist should move.
A bit sad is how Thresh died when they invaded because he didn't pay attention so when AP Trist had to go bot she couldn't even hit 2 first and all-in. Later my EQ as J4 went right through Leona, we started following her since she'd have died otherwise and ~10s (and a TP and jungle hecarim ult) later, Hecarim had a triple because the other 2 didn't pull back. Game wasn't pretty and, well, let's just say I'm not into promos again. x)


<3

LOL get rekt
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 21 2014 18:36 GMT
#1675
Rito pls, bring jungle changes back to the pbe so Monte can give me sweet sweet sweet info.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 21 2014 19:06 GMT
#1676
Scarra's playing AP WW mid in Challenger. I don't know if I should laugh at the goofiness, or cry because I'm stuck in Gold playing "standard" stuff. D:
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 21 2014 19:12 GMT
#1677
On October 22 2014 04:06 Alaric wrote:
Scarra's playing AP WW mid in Challenger. I don't know if I should laugh at the goofiness, or cry because I'm stuck in Gold playing "standard" stuff. D:

WW mid isn't that bad, he just sustains through everything, and his build usually lets tank through most burst. He's not that wacky as far as mid lanes go.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 21 2014 19:13 GMT
#1678
I mean he built DFG->sorcs->Deathcap->Void and then he's building FH.
I lost it when he said in all chat "uh, guys, your team has 3 QSSes".
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 21 2014 19:16 GMT
#1679
On October 22 2014 04:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 04:06 Alaric wrote:
Scarra's playing AP WW mid in Challenger. I don't know if I should laugh at the goofiness, or cry because I'm stuck in Gold playing "standard" stuff. D:

WW mid isn't that bad, he just sustains through everything, and his build usually lets tank through most burst. He's not that wacky as far as mid lanes go.

he played GP mid the other day as well.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 21 2014 19:27 GMT
#1680
Ugh. Tried to launch a game, I accept, it finishes the "accept/decline" part, screen changes to load champ select... I'm back on the landing piege, no notification, when I try to queue up again it tells me I'm already in game. Riot pls.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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