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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 14 2014 01:17 GMT
#961
On October 14 2014 09:45 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 08:46 Gahlo wrote:
On October 14 2014 08:21 Goumindong wrote:
On October 14 2014 06:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 14 2014 06:05 FinestHour wrote:
On October 14 2014 05:20 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 14 2014 05:12 FinestHour wrote:
boots shiv ie TF hydra LW is that max possible damage parley build u mathnerds

Pretty sure max damage would be 6ie's with red pot. If you want to include arpen then 5 ie lw.

wait is triforce proc not core the build I've been using right now it can do like 1100 not including shiv dmg

triforce is good on gp, but for various other reasons. 5th IE crit is 200 dmg worth (80 base ad x 2.5% crit multiplier = 200 dmg), how much is gp's base damage at level 18? probably break even, or really darn close i'd imagine.


Triforce has 30 AD on it, so you're only getting a 50 extra from the IE. 3/4 IE's, Triforce, LW/SotO is max damage depending on rules.

Spellblade on Triforce is 200% BASE AD. It doesn't give a fuck what items you have.


Yes but if you have triforce you hit for 200% base AD + 30 AD(Crit modified) because triforce gives you 30 AD.

If you have IE you hit for 80 AD crit modified because IE gives you 30 AD

So the 5th IE of crit is only worth 50 AD worth of damage compared to Triforce because Triforce has 30 AD on it and 80-30=50.

Triforce will always do more damage on the Q than any IE after the first, or any raw AD item for that matter.

IE crit also boosts the rest of your damage, not just the bonus.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 14 2014 02:01 GMT
#962
On October 14 2014 10:17 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 09:45 Goumindong wrote:
On October 14 2014 08:46 Gahlo wrote:
On October 14 2014 08:21 Goumindong wrote:
On October 14 2014 06:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 14 2014 06:05 FinestHour wrote:
On October 14 2014 05:20 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 14 2014 05:12 FinestHour wrote:
boots shiv ie TF hydra LW is that max possible damage parley build u mathnerds

Pretty sure max damage would be 6ie's with red pot. If you want to include arpen then 5 ie lw.

wait is triforce proc not core the build I've been using right now it can do like 1100 not including shiv dmg

triforce is good on gp, but for various other reasons. 5th IE crit is 200 dmg worth (80 base ad x 2.5% crit multiplier = 200 dmg), how much is gp's base damage at level 18? probably break even, or really darn close i'd imagine.


Triforce has 30 AD on it, so you're only getting a 50 extra from the IE. 3/4 IE's, Triforce, LW/SotO is max damage depending on rules.

Spellblade on Triforce is 200% BASE AD. It doesn't give a fuck what items you have.


Yes but if you have triforce you hit for 200% base AD + 30 AD(Crit modified) because triforce gives you 30 AD.

If you have IE you hit for 80 AD crit modified because IE gives you 30 AD

So the 5th IE of crit is only worth 50 AD worth of damage compared to Triforce because Triforce has 30 AD on it and 80-30=50.

Triforce will always do more damage on the Q than any IE after the first, or any raw AD item for that matter.

IE crit also boosts the rest of your damage, not just the bonus.

The theoretical build has multiple IEs to get as high AD as possible while maxing crit chance. Whether or not the IE in question is replaced has no effect on IE crits outside of crit chance.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 02:23:18
October 14 2014 02:22 GMT
#963
ya the debate is for tf or hydra or both to get replaced by another bf item or two
this shit has been the most fun ive had in legend of leagues in a long time theres nothing more satisfying then one shotting some scrub mage or ad carry and just outskilling them so hard with le critface
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 14 2014 02:26 GMT
#964
what is the purpose of the hydra? I mean I get that it gives cleave for -5 ad but if the goal is highest Parrley crit possible it does nothing as far as I can tell
Carrilord has arrived.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 14 2014 02:28 GMT
#965
On October 14 2014 11:26 Slusher wrote:
what is the purpose of the hydra? I mean I get that it gives cleave for -5 ad but if the goal is highest Parrley crit possible it does nothing as far as I can tell

AOE Parrrley crits with Shiv are breadwinners.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 14 2014 02:30 GMT
#966
that would be cool if it worked the way old Tiamat used to, but the way it works now it's really not even interesting. Hydra super overrated on gp in any build not just max parley crit builds
Carrilord has arrived.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 14 2014 02:31 GMT
#967
gotta get it so u can get a huge boner with that 1200 skillfull outplayed crit cleaves another person or 2
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 14 2014 02:38 GMT
#968
If CLG keep link the management is officially a joke. I disagree with removing Dexter but if they also remove Link I can deal with it.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 14 2014 02:41 GMT
#969
Watch for TSM Dexter coming soon. One German jungler follows another.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 14 2014 02:44 GMT
#970
I think they might just go back to TOO. It's a safe choice and a decent one.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 14 2014 02:55 GMT
#971
On October 14 2014 11:30 Slusher wrote:
that would be cool if it worked the way old Tiamat used to, but the way it works now it's really not even interesting. Hydra super overrated on gp in any build not just max parley crit builds

the good part of shiv/tiamat with GP is that parrrley's bonus gold applies to things you kill with the cleave or lightning.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 14 2014 02:59 GMT
#972
http://www.twitch.tv/scarra <-- scarra is playing Darius with the new skin.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 14 2014 03:00 GMT
#973
Nah dude, TSM Helios makes too much sense.
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
October 14 2014 03:06 GMT
#974
I really don't understand how people can hate any of the new splash art. It is across the board higher resolution, more detailed, with more dynamic poses. It's awesome, and I'm glad to see more of the terrible/mediocre old art go. It's like people have some sort of emotional attachment to the old art or something, I don't get it at all.
Creator of LoLTool.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 14 2014 03:08 GMT
#975
Dude. NO MORE AHRI BOOBSTRAP.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 14 2014 03:08 GMT
#976
On October 14 2014 12:06 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand how people can hate any of the new splash art. It is across the board higher resolution, more detailed, with more dynamic poses. It's awesome, and I'm glad to see more of the terrible/mediocre old art go. It's like people have some sort of emotional attachment to the old art or something, I don't get it at all.

some of it just looks actiony for the sake of being actiony. some of the older splash art showed more of the character's personality than the new comic book cover art style of splash art.
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
October 14 2014 03:09 GMT
#977
So I moved to New York from UK and now am experiencing the legendary east coast ping. So on average I get 120 ping, on a good day 100, and on bad days 170 and random spikes/dc. I used to main top lane Jayce, Elise, Shyvana, but now with this ping my elise and jayce play has gone to shit. What champs should I main top now?
I've picked up Swain and Trundle, both are fun but only swain is pretty good right now, what other not mechanically intensive champs are there in toplane that are ok in the current meta?
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 14 2014 03:11 GMT
#978
On October 14 2014 12:06 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand how people can hate any of the new splash art. It is across the board higher resolution, more detailed, with more dynamic poses. It's awesome, and I'm glad to see more of the terrible/mediocre old art go. It's like people have some sort of emotional attachment to the old art or something, I don't get it at all.

I can see the dislike of the Kayle one. To start, it gives her boobplate. Following that, it gives her head square a case of the same pose that Lee Sin had that got fixed.
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
October 14 2014 03:11 GMT
#979
On October 14 2014 12:06 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand how people can hate any of the new splash art. It is across the board higher resolution, more detailed, with more dynamic poses. It's awesome, and I'm glad to see more of the terrible/mediocre old art go. It's like people have some sort of emotional attachment to the old art or something, I don't get it at all.


Have you seen the new trist splash? Good lord, its as if they gave her a new Down's Syndrome Trist skin
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 03:13:01
October 14 2014 03:12 GMT
#980
On October 14 2014 11:31 FinestHour wrote:
gotta get it so u can get a huge boner with that 1200 skillfull outplayed crit cleaves another person or 2


except when the cleaved person takes like 200 damage

Cleave's damage is based on the attack damage champion statistic, not from actual damage dealt on the attack—it therefore doesn't benefit from critical strikes or on-hit effects


60% of your Attack Damage to units around your target as physical damage (185 range), decaying down to 20% near the edge
Carrilord has arrived.
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