EPT[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 35
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I'm impressed he beat Jayce in lane. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 12 2014 01:45 xes wrote: Yea sucks for you :/ But for works of fiction (literature, film) I've always posited that if knowing the plot ruins the experience then it was probably not very good to begin with, and I'm starting to think that applies to league as well. The only "good" games that knowing the resolution ruins are nail biting base races which are really just shitfests to begin with. You should still watch the full set regardless of outcome because they were all great games. I still am, but it's nowhere near as enthralling as it should have been. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 12 2014 02:01 iCanada wrote: I think that's impressive, but it's not the stuns I find impressive. I dunno, Nyjacky always had perfect stuns. Can't ever recall Jacky missing one. I'm impressed he beat Jayce in lane. The juking was the most impressive, the long clip against mundo was pretty insane, his spacing was incredible that entire highlight reel. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23351 Posts
also 2 second cd heal ROFL it makes the nerf to starcall worth | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 12 2014 02:03 wei2coolman wrote: The juking was the most impressive, the long clip against mundo was pretty insane, his spacing was incredible that entire highlight reel. Yeah, it's kind of inspiring really. Also terrifying as someone who likes the melee tank with no gap closers. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
Frog: 200xp, 72g Blue: 100xp, 42g (50xp, 22g & 20xp, 7g) Wolves: 144xp, 42g (30xp, 10g) Raptors: 140xp, 42g (20xp, 6g) Red: 100xp, 42g (50xp, 22g) Golems: 150xp, 66g (50xp, 18g) Aside from the Smite Last Hit bug, the only oddities I've noted are:
The former is important because the missing 30xp is the difference between being able to hit level 6 in two clears (around 6:05) or needing to steal lane xp/hunt a crab to hit 6. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 12 2014 02:45 Seuss wrote: Quick statistics on new Jungle. Format: Large Minion (Small Minions) Frog: 200xp, 72g Blue: 100xp, 42g (50xp, 22g & 20xp, 7g) Wolves: 144xp, 42g (30xp, 10g) Raptors: 140xp, 42g (20xp, 6g) Red: 100xp, 42g (50xp, 22g) Golems: 150xp, 66g (50xp, 18g) Aside from the Smite Last Hit bug, the only oddities I've noted are:
The former is important because the missing 30xp is the difference between being able to hit level 6 in two clears (around 6:05) or needing to steal lane xp/hunt a crab to hit 6. Interesting. You said 2 clears takes like 6:05 game time, what champion are you playing? How does the actual clear itself compare to now? | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On October 12 2014 00:20 Numy wrote: People so angry today, just poking fun :<. + Show Spoiler + SSW didn't choke, it's the weekend, it's a good day and Ekop Could I just reiterate here that I was waiting for the rebroadcast of SSW vs SSB today and that this post spoiled the match for me? So could people PLEASE be more careful outside of the LR thread? I'd like to not have this happen to me again tomorrow or, worse, during the grand finals. I'm not personally angry at you, I just don't want this to happen again and I feel that nobody got the message when I first called this out. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 12 2014 02:01 iCanada wrote: I think that's impressive, but it's not the stuns I find impressive. I dunno, Nyjacky always had perfect stuns. Can't ever recall Jacky missing one. I'm impressed he beat Jayce in lane. he did start with FB for a free flask. that tends to help alot. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 12 2014 03:38 PrinceXizor wrote: he did start with FB for a free flask. that tends to help alot. True, but I still think Jayce should roll over them. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 12 2014 03:55 iCanada wrote: True, but I still think Jayce should roll over them. Yeah its not an easy lane, but he goes about even with the jayce by playing safe and getting lvl 2 on the first wave from the solo kill xp. the second kill on the video is his first kill on jayce, and past that point veigar is a level and a half above jayce. if veigar hits 6 when jayce is almost 5, the matchup doesn't matter veigar can just stomp you. doesn't hurt that iirc the jayce was a masters tier player and the veigar was faker. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I'm not going to say "easy" ofc but Veigar Q does outrage Jayce, and if you are as accurate with cage as Veigar mains appear to be he can't really all in you, not to mention Jayce does have waveclear but not on the level of 1-2 spell instant clear of ori/ziggs/xerath I'd actually guess (as a non veigar player) it's one of his better match ups edit: looked up Dabox's guide for he rates Jayce at 3/4 difficulty unfavored (he actually rates a fair amount of 3 difficulty as favored only 4 are unanimously unfavored so take that into account on how bad a 3 actually is) Jayce is one of the AD's that are hard to verse as Veigar because he is a ranged AD and therefore can easily trade with your Q's. Beating a Jayce however is quite easy because you out sustain him as he only starts one pot. The only thing you need to watch out for is his level 2 burst so play safe. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 12 2014 04:16 Slusher wrote: from watching Dabox play I get the feeling that having accurate smart casts with Event Horizon actually turns a LOT of match ups to actually be in his favor I'm not going to say "easy" ofc but Veigar Q does outrage Jayce, and if you are as accurate with cage as Veigar mains appear to be he can't really all in you, not to mention Jayce does have waveclear but not on the level of 1-2 spell instant clear of ori/ziggs/xerath I'd actually guess (as a non veigar player) it's one of his better match ups I'd think the problem with the matchup is that if you get behind as veigar you are going to stay behind the whole lane. faker started ahead and took advantage of his level advantage to get a kill in the lane on the first gank and hit 6 very fast. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I mean if dabox says it's unfavored I'm sure it is, but he doesn't sound too scared of the match up, you make it sound like no kill lvl1 = behind and I'm not seeing that | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 12 2014 04:32 Slusher wrote: Useless is pretty relative to when and how far he falls behind, Veigar doesn't exactly need 6 items to 1 combo people. I mean if dabox says it's unfavored I'm sure it is, but he doesn't sound too scared of the match up, you make it sound like no kill lvl1 = behind and I'm not seeing that nah. i'm not saying that. I'm saying getting the kill at lvl 1 makes it impossible to get behind without a gank. barring some incredible misplay. and when veigar is ahead by a good chunk of xp like he was, it tends to beat most lanes. veigar hitting 6 that much earlier just says you can't all in me anymore, and any gank will result in your death. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 12 2014 04:58 krndandaman wrote: didn't dabox also say that sometimes it's actually better not to aim the stun on them? reason was that the stun duration was shorter than the actual box duration so you effectively trap them for longer inside the box. Thats if you are trying to trap them in an area. if you are trying to prevent them from attacking the stun is strictly better than the trap for rather obvious reasons. and its kind of like j4 ulti, where you don't really want to trap people unless they burned flash if you can help it. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Does anyone have links to the SSB vs SSW vods (spoiler free please)? Thanks in advance. | ||
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