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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 04 2014 07:32 ItsFunToLose wrote: the hyperbole and janna-from-2-years-ago memories are ridiculous. janna is not the solocarry she used to be in aram. its absolutely possible to roll a slightly inferior team comp and simply lack the waveclear to keep them off your tower if you lose a skirmish. janna is not a 1v5 freewin the way ziggs or sona are atm. she used to be. used to be. used to. used. #youhaventplayedaramin6months. please explain why the word "ranked" evokes your uniquely american "tryhard" feels, but aram is for bitches and nerds who never get laid. winning only counts if its on summoners rift, and even then, only if everyone agrees they are trying 100%. You're not listening. I never said she solo carried... Try and take a janna's tower without killing her first. Now try to kill a Janna hiding behind four teammates and a tower. She might not carry, but if but played like an idiot she doesn't lose. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
lolking says Janna is in the top 10, though what it really says is "fuck your shit I'm Sona". I'm more interested in optimal ARAM builds. I've had a ton of success with Frostfang, though it's sad on certain champs that you can't start Frostfang + Tear. Chalice is also a fine start on a lot of champs, but against a team with low AP damage I've often wondered if it just makes more sense to itemize some early damage instead. And I think your itemization is particularly important for low-death ARAM champs; someone like Morgana or Lux is rarely going to die early, so you should buy something that synergizes with the fact that you'll probably be out there for 10+ minutes before shopping. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 04 2014 07:32 ItsFunToLose wrote: please explain why the word "ranked" evokes your uniquely american "tryhard" feels, but aram is for bitches and nerds who never get laid. winning only counts if its on summoners rift, and even then, only if everyone agrees they are trying 100%. That's pretty easy to figure out. For some people, how big your dick is only matters if you can compare it to other people's. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Then again we should already know that we're all shitters in the end. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 04 2014 07:39 Numy wrote: Well the solution to | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 04 2014 07:39 Numy wrote: Well the solution to ARM only accounts has been known for a very long time but don't think Riot will ever do it. Unlocking all champs for ARAM is just too logical. Do people really think ARAM only accounts are an actual problem? I have like almost all the champs unlocked (minus maybe like 3 or 4), and I never go into an ARAM game going "DAMN ALL THOSE FUCKING ARAM SMURFS WITH ONLY POKE CHAMPIONS BOUGHT"... like wot, it's not even a big deal. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On November 04 2014 07:55 GrandInquisitor wrote: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=weekly&map=ha&queue=normal lolking says Janna is in the top 10, though what it really says is "fuck your shit I'm Sona". I'm more interested in optimal ARAM builds. I've had a ton of success with Frostfang, though it's sad on certain champs that you can't start Frostfang + Tear. Chalice is also a fine start on a lot of champs, but against a team with low AP damage I've often wondered if it just makes more sense to itemize some early damage instead. And I think your itemization is particularly important for low-death ARAM champs; someone like Morgana or Lux is rarely going to die early, so you should buy something that synergizes with the fact that you'll probably be out there for 10+ minutes before shopping. Chalice is almost always a bad buy on aram. You get more AP from morello and all the MP 5 you need for 97% of the cast for less gold. Get the cdr/mp5 item that builds into morello instead. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 04 2014 08:42 Goumindong wrote: Chalice is almost always a bad buy on aram. You get more AP from morello and all the MP 5 you need for 97% of the cast for less gold. Get the cdr/mp5 item that builds into morello instead. I much prefer the tear + morello combo, most of the time, tear early on is so good for near unlimited spam all while stacking quite easily, and scales insanely hard lategame. Unless you're going for full burst, and need a much more offensive build (like lich or DFG early on), I think tear is always a solid buy. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 04 2014 09:01 Goumindong wrote: Tear and RoA are both great but only if you can afford not having any power the first part of the game. Going both is too much of an investment imo, especially without any early CDR to do it, but consider the comparison to Chalice build path, Morello + Tear is much nicer . | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On November 04 2014 05:07 ItsFunToLose wrote: pretty sure waveclear is more important than absolute poke, or mixed damage types in aram. It's really not, because as long as your team combined has enough waveclear your own individual wave clear doesn't mean much unless you are by yourself/one teammate, and even then they're probably just going to kill the tower after a point. And shiv exists. If Janna gets the wave down to 70% your team probably has one more person with an AoE ability to clear them. On November 04 2014 08:42 Goumindong wrote:Chalice is almost always a bad buy on aram. You get more AP from morello and all the MP 5 you need for 97% of the cast for less gold. Get the cdr/mp5 item that builds into morello instead. You don't get chalice for the AP, you get it for the early mana regen/magic resist. Every point of mana regen early matters for AP casters, and its passive applies to your base mana regen (plus anything from masteries/runes). Get chalice, then if you want 40% CDR finish Morello's first. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On November 04 2014 08:37 wei2coolman wrote: Do people really think ARAM only accounts are an actual problem? I have like almost all the champs unlocked (minus maybe like 3 or 4), and I never go into an ARAM game going "DAMN ALL THOSE FUCKING ARAM SMURFS WITH ONLY POKE CHAMPIONS BOUGHT"... like wot, it's not even a big deal. its pretty annoying. You wont notice one or two aram accounts in the enemy team, you will just think you had bad luck this time, but it adds up. Its really annoying when there is a whole tryhard 5 premade doing that shit. I dont know why Riot would not enable all champs in aram, its not like anyone will go "well, i never have to buy champions anymore, i can play them all in aram, just have to play 100 games and i probably have 1 game with the one champion i want to play right now!" its even in the name ALL RANDOM. its not named "some random", the fun for me is making the random team work somehow, it was funnier when it was the old SR aram that didnt have ambient gold so much, but i take what i can get. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 04 2014 10:16 LaNague wrote: its pretty annoying. You wont notice one or two aram accounts in the enemy team, you will just think you had bad luck this time, but it adds up. Its really annoying when there is a whole tryhard 5 premade doing that shit. I dont know why Riot would not enable all champs in aram, its not like anyone will go "well, i never have to buy champions anymore, i can play them all in aram, just have to play 100 games and i probably have 1 game with the one champion i want to play right now!" its even in the name ALL RANDOM. its not named "some random", the fun for me is making the random team work somehow, it was funnier when it was the old SR aram that didnt have ambient gold so much, but i take what i can get. I mean, Galt gave me shit for not playing ranked, but I most definitely played a fuck ton of ARAM. Even when I'm stuck with whatever shit-tier ARAM champion, I don't even notice, I just attribute it to RNG, and that some teams are just going to be stronger, that's sort of the whole point of ARAM. :/ | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On November 04 2014 10:28 wei2coolman wrote: I mean, Galt gave me shit for not playing ranked, but I most definitely played a fuck ton of ARAM. Even when I'm stuck with whatever shit-tier ARAM champion, I don't even notice, I just attribute it to RNG, and that some teams are just going to be stronger, that's sort of the whole point of ARAM. :/ When ARAM first came out I played the shit out of it and had a really high winrate, and trust me even back then there were "smurf" accounts. Every game would be 8/10 top tier champs. That's not RNG or good reroll luck when it happens every single game. I'm sure it's only gotten worse at the high end. I have no idea about the middle though. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
My account have lots of bad champions for aram, but i have to admit that these days when I'm choosing what champion to buy I ask myself "would i hate life if i draw this champion in aram?" (main reason of why i dont own shyvana still) | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Played over 1700 games on ARAM :< | ||
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