EPT[Patch 4.16] Azir General Discussion - Page 84
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6215 Posts
On September 22 2014 12:34 Slusher wrote: laning with people who picked up Janna because they saw it at worlds is pretty maddening On the other hand, duoQ with Janna is amazing. Lucian/Vayne with a Janna can shit on almost anyone. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
On September 22 2014 12:34 Slusher wrote: laning with people who picked up Janna because they saw it at worlds is pretty maddening For who? It's been maddening for me (as janna) because i win lane every game at lvl 1/2 (them at 40% or less HP, us more or less full) and they refuse to press leads. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6215 Posts
Piglet makes me sad. The 100 acre lane was so fucking good last year and they just fell off a cliff =( On another note, almost climbed back to diamond after decaying out. Won 7 in a row so far - nothing too special, almost back up there. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I think he's super cool but I am going to give him up till these bugs get fixed. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 22 2014 12:37 Lmui wrote: On the other hand, duoQ with Janna is amazing. Lucian/Vayne with a Janna can shit on almost anyone. Lucian yes. But not seeing the Vayne | ||
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Gahlo
United States35161 Posts
With any of the 3 big 20% CDR AP items, quints, and 5% from masteries he caps on CDR at a 1 item timing. Granted, you give up 15AP but AP is easily available in droves while CDR is a bitch to itemize for, especially cleanly, without overshooting the hardcap. Not to mention with his CDR => AS conversion from his passive, he'll gain 18.75% AS which is 4.16r quints worth. It theory it seems to be a no brainer to me. Thoughts? As an aside, I think CDR quints are criminally underrated. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 22 2014 12:44 Lmui wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2h31h3/piglet_has_been_getting_offers_from_foreign_teams/ Piglet makes me sad. The 100 acre lane was so fucking good last year and they just fell off a cliff =( On another note, almost climbed back to diamond after decaying out. Won 7 in a row so far - nothing too special, almost back up there. TSM Pigret? | ||
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Lmui
Canada6215 Posts
Vayne is largely the byproduct of being able to do 3 auto trades with minimal damage taken in return against a few of the common bottom laners atm. Her burst isn't high but the shield lets her get away with auto+Q(with shield) auto and then either a third auto and retreat or condemn -> retreat with one auto worth of damage taken whereas with most other supports, she'll eat much more damage than she dishes out. It's enough to turn vayne from a weak laner to an even laner in most cases. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 22 2014 14:13 Lmui wrote: Vayne is largely the byproduct of being able to do 3 auto trades with minimal damage taken in return against a few of the common bottom laners atm. Her burst isn't high but the shield lets her get away with auto+Q(with shield) auto and then either a third auto and retreat or condemn -> retreat with one auto worth of damage taken whereas with most other supports, she'll eat much more damage than she dishes out. It's enough to turn vayne from a weak laner to an even laner in most cases. It wasn't so bad when you could apply the 3rd proc after the knockback to avoid full trades. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
the thing about shield vs. heal is it requires less coordination. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And most Janna I've seen seem to be doing well. Blue build Ezreal on the other hand are pretty cancer. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On September 22 2014 16:38 wei2coolman wrote: I wouldn't take any vayne picks in the group stage seriously, most of the vayne picks were against stomp matchups. That being said, I do think we'll see some vayne picks later on in serious matches, but they'll definitely play around it a lot more than just picking it straight up into 2v2 lane matchups without a team built around getting vayne fed. the SK vs TSM vayne pick was definitely serious, but yeah, they didn't use her in a 2v2 lane. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
support is generally frustrating to play, but janna is one of the worst if your adc is a little pussy. | ||
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kongoline
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
V4.11: Stats Base health reduced to 450 from 463. Health per level reduced to 85 from 98. Armor per level reduced to 3 from 3.5. Any "balanced" or "slightly unfavourable" physical match-up before that became worse for Jax, at least until you can overcome the difference in stats with items (considering that neither Triforce nor BotRK give enough defensive stats for it, and the higher you get the more stats you lose since armour has been hit in its scaling). At least 6 you lose 3 armour and 78 HP, that's a bunch against Riven's all-in for example. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
That reminded me of a game a few days back where my Jax gave up first blood vs Leona at level 2 one on one on the top lne. I was dumbfounded. .. | ||
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