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[Patch 4.16] Azir General Discussion - Page 84

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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 22 2014 03:34 GMT
#1661
laning with people who picked up Janna because they saw it at worlds is pretty maddening
Carrilord has arrived.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
September 22 2014 03:37 GMT
#1662
On September 22 2014 12:34 Slusher wrote:
laning with people who picked up Janna because they saw it at worlds is pretty maddening


On the other hand, duoQ with Janna is amazing.

Lucian/Vayne with a Janna can shit on almost anyone.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
September 22 2014 03:44 GMT
#1663
On September 22 2014 12:34 Slusher wrote:
laning with people who picked up Janna because they saw it at worlds is pretty maddening


For who? It's been maddening for me (as janna) because i win lane every game at lvl 1/2 (them at 40% or less HP, us more or less full) and they refuse to press leads.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
September 22 2014 03:44 GMT
#1664
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2h31h3/piglet_has_been_getting_offers_from_foreign_teams/

Piglet makes me sad. The 100 acre lane was so fucking good last year and they just fell off a cliff =(

On another note, almost climbed back to diamond after decaying out.

Won 7 in a row so far - nothing too special, almost back up there.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 22 2014 03:58 GMT
#1665
I think I'm almost at a 50% success rate of Azir's ult not pushing the person back, pretty great.

I think he's super cool but I am going to give him up till these bugs get fixed.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 22 2014 04:04 GMT
#1666
On September 22 2014 12:37 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2014 12:34 Slusher wrote:
laning with people who picked up Janna because they saw it at worlds is pretty maddening


On the other hand, duoQ with Janna is amazing.

Lucian/Vayne with a Janna can shit on almost anyone.


Lucian yes. But not seeing the Vayne
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 04:21:21
September 22 2014 04:19 GMT
#1667
Azir theory crafting for rune pages... why not CDR quints?

With any of the 3 big 20% CDR AP items, quints, and 5% from masteries he caps on CDR at a 1 item timing. Granted, you give up 15AP but AP is easily available in droves while CDR is a bitch to itemize for, especially cleanly, without overshooting the hardcap. Not to mention with his CDR => AS conversion from his passive, he'll gain 18.75% AS which is 4.16r quints worth.

It theory it seems to be a no brainer to me.

Thoughts?

As an aside, I think CDR quints are criminally underrated.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 22 2014 04:29 GMT
#1668
On September 22 2014 12:44 Lmui wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2h31h3/piglet_has_been_getting_offers_from_foreign_teams/

Piglet makes me sad. The 100 acre lane was so fucking good last year and they just fell off a cliff =(

On another note, almost climbed back to diamond after decaying out.

Won 7 in a row so far - nothing too special, almost back up there.

TSM Pigret?
liftlift > tsm
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
September 22 2014 05:13 GMT
#1669
On September 22 2014 13:04 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2014 12:37 Lmui wrote:
On September 22 2014 12:34 Slusher wrote:
laning with people who picked up Janna because they saw it at worlds is pretty maddening


On the other hand, duoQ with Janna is amazing.

Lucian/Vayne with a Janna can shit on almost anyone.


Lucian yes. But not seeing the Vayne


Vayne is largely the byproduct of being able to do 3 auto trades with minimal damage taken in return against a few of the common bottom laners atm. Her burst isn't high but the shield lets her get away with auto+Q(with shield) auto and then either a third auto and retreat or condemn -> retreat with one auto worth of damage taken whereas with most other supports, she'll eat much more damage than she dishes out.

It's enough to turn vayne from a weak laner to an even laner in most cases.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 22 2014 05:21 GMT
#1670
On September 22 2014 14:13 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2014 13:04 Goumindong wrote:
On September 22 2014 12:37 Lmui wrote:
On September 22 2014 12:34 Slusher wrote:
laning with people who picked up Janna because they saw it at worlds is pretty maddening


On the other hand, duoQ with Janna is amazing.

Lucian/Vayne with a Janna can shit on almost anyone.


Lucian yes. But not seeing the Vayne


Vayne is largely the byproduct of being able to do 3 auto trades with minimal damage taken in return against a few of the common bottom laners atm. Her burst isn't high but the shield lets her get away with auto+Q(with shield) auto and then either a third auto and retreat or condemn -> retreat with one auto worth of damage taken whereas with most other supports, she'll eat much more damage than she dishes out.

It's enough to turn vayne from a weak laner to an even laner in most cases.

It wasn't so bad when you could apply the 3rd proc after the knockback to avoid full trades.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 06:06:23
September 22 2014 06:00 GMT
#1671
I feel like Nami E does the same thing better, but I do like it as a plan B

the thing about shield vs. heal is it requires less coordination.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 07:27:03
September 22 2014 07:26 GMT
#1672
Last year Vayne+Janna was considered one of the absolute weakest duo lane, though, because they'd get walked over. Janna's strong atm but why would it be different for Vayne?

And most Janna I've seen seem to be doing well.
Blue build Ezreal on the other hand are pretty cancer.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 22 2014 07:38 GMT
#1673
I wouldn't take any vayne picks in the group stage seriously, most of the vayne picks were against stomp matchups. That being said, I do think we'll see some vayne picks later on in serious matches, but they'll definitely play around it a lot more than just picking it straight up into 2v2 lane matchups without a team built around getting vayne fed.
liftlift > tsm
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 22 2014 07:51 GMT
#1674
Janna is strong, and easy to play compared to other supps, which make her a great pick if you are forced to support but don't main it.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 22 2014 09:30 GMT
#1675
I think janna is one of the hardest supports to play...:O
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 10:04:42
September 22 2014 10:03 GMT
#1676
On September 22 2014 16:38 wei2coolman wrote:
I wouldn't take any vayne picks in the group stage seriously, most of the vayne picks were against stomp matchups. That being said, I do think we'll see some vayne picks later on in serious matches, but they'll definitely play around it a lot more than just picking it straight up into 2v2 lane matchups without a team built around getting vayne fed.

the SK vs TSM vayne pick was definitely serious, but yeah, they didn't use her in a 2v2 lane.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 10:10:46
September 22 2014 10:08 GMT
#1677
janna is very frustrating to play with a random adc, i have given up on that.




support is generally frustrating to play, but janna is one of the worst if your adc is a little pussy.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 11:18:58
September 22 2014 11:17 GMT
#1678
is jax vs riven a one sided rape fest right now? dont think i've been able to win a single lane vs riven as jax even after 6 i get pooped on only can beat her after i finish trinity/bortk and randuin but at this point game is usually decided, i dont have half as much trouble even vs ryze which is supposed to be a hard counter
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 22 2014 11:28 GMT
#1679
V4.11:
Stats
Base health reduced to 450 from 463.
Health per level reduced to 85 from 98.
Armor per level reduced to 3 from 3.5.

Any "balanced" or "slightly unfavourable" physical match-up before that became worse for Jax, at least until you can overcome the difference in stats with items (considering that neither Triforce nor BotRK give enough defensive stats for it, and the higher you get the more stats you lose since armour has been hit in its scaling).
At least 6 you lose 3 armour and 78 HP, that's a bunch against Riven's all-in for example.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 22 2014 11:43 GMT
#1680
Lol.

That reminded me of a game a few days back where my Jax gave up first blood vs Leona at level 2 one on one on the top lne. I was dumbfounded. ..
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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