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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 27 2014 21:42 GMT
#261
On August 28 2014 06:40 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 06:33 nafta wrote:
On August 28 2014 06:14 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Oh speaking of eloboosting though some guy named "lolacadmey" (yes, he spelled it wrong) added me yesterday as I was jumping into a solo queue game to ask if I wanted to boost for lol-academy.com or something. I declined and said I didn't have the time because I was getting my doctorate and he got super pissed at me. He was like "doctorate?" "what's that" and I responded "it means I will eventually be a doctor" and he was like "ur career is fuckin garbage" "i make more money than u already" and I was like "yes" "but you are surprisingly stupid for someone running an academy lol"

I kinda wanna get this guy shut down for being a dick.

Must be some new rising agency.Most know better than to ask random people in soloq.

Lol after some googling they aren't a rising agency weird.I really don't understand why can't riot just shut those down lol.


shutting them down requires either

A: Legal action

B: Banning accounts

But if you're doing League for a living by boosting you either don't need an account, or can get back to diamond fast enough by simply making a new account.

The only really effective way to stop it is by banning enough boosted accounts so that no one wants to risk boosting. But doing that is hard especially if boosting is done smart.

I feel like Riot should be litigating against this kind of thing in the first place...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 21:47:02
August 27 2014 21:45 GMT
#262
On August 28 2014 06:40 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 06:33 nafta wrote:
On August 28 2014 06:14 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Oh speaking of eloboosting though some guy named "lolacadmey" (yes, he spelled it wrong) added me yesterday as I was jumping into a solo queue game to ask if I wanted to boost for lol-academy.com or something. I declined and said I didn't have the time because I was getting my doctorate and he got super pissed at me. He was like "doctorate?" "what's that" and I responded "it means I will eventually be a doctor" and he was like "ur career is fuckin garbage" "i make more money than u already" and I was like "yes" "but you are surprisingly stupid for someone running an academy lol"

I kinda wanna get this guy shut down for being a dick.

Must be some new rising agency.Most know better than to ask random people in soloq.

Lol after some googling they aren't a rising agency weird.I really don't understand why can't riot just shut those down lol.


shutting them down requires either

A: Legal action

B: Banning accounts

But if you're doing League for a living by boosting you either don't need an account, or can get back to diamond fast enough by simply making a new account.

The only really effective way to stop it is by banning enough boosted accounts so that no one wants to risk boosting. But doing that is hard especially if boosting is done smart.

What do you mean by elo boosting is done smart?I just find it funny that sites like this exist and has semi-professional players like freeze on it and literally has an elo boosting tab on the front page.Why isn't he banned and apdo is?Sure the site doesn't list him as a booster but come on if they name drop like that clearly he is.

The reason I always talk about elo boosting and how riot does nothing about it is because I have friends who literally started boosting instead of getting a job cause we live in a shitty country lol.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 22:06:48
August 27 2014 21:46 GMT
#263
On August 28 2014 06:12 Fusilero wrote:
Speaking of dosoo what's he been up to letmelose, last I heard he was tried out for MVP teams and kicked shortly afterwards. Does he still play?


He moved on to stream on Afreeca I believe, but from what I've heard he regressed a lot as a player.

When DoSoo was at his peak, he was much more fun to watch than Apdo, who relied more on mind games rather than the bruit mechanics of DoSoo. Especially back when the game was more simple and didn't rely too much on map awareness, DoSoo would literally shit on the enemy laners with pure outmaneuvers, but now that other top level players are clean mechanically also, a lot of his effectiveness has diminished.

I remember the days when DoSoo would spend more time typing non-stop cursing, and being more interested in out-performing the enemy lane than winning the game, which was way more interesting than Apdo spamming OP champions in order to climb the ladder. In terms of mechanics, I think DoSoo in his prime was a cut above Apdo, and even Ambition praised him for being one of the best mid-laners in the game at the time. Apdo is more astute both in terms of winning games, and managing his "image" as a top amateur player, but DoSoo was literally a kid that thought he was the best in the world and wanted to shit on everyone, and cared little beyond that.
TL+ Member
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 27 2014 21:55 GMT
#264
The Viktor on TOO's stream is carrying so hard. The enemy team is all AD and they are tunneling super hard on Vayne (who has horrible positioning), but it's weird to see them let him live for so long that he can make up for the rest being Morgana/Nunu/Mundo damage-wise. The fights last long enough that Gnar almost always reverts back to mini before the end.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
August 27 2014 22:17 GMT
#265
Dat Akali splash.
[image loading]
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/08/827-pbe-update.html
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21505 Posts
August 27 2014 22:19 GMT
#266
is it wrong that the first thing i notice is they had to move her leg up to get enough crotch in the shot ><
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
August 27 2014 22:20 GMT
#267
On August 28 2014 07:19 Gorsameth wrote:
is it wrong that the first thing i notice is they had to move her leg up to get enough crotch in the shot ><

Welcome to being a heterosexual male animal, where you scan things for attractiveness if it fits your instinctual pattern before you even know you do it.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 27 2014 22:22 GMT
#268
On August 28 2014 06:45 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 06:40 Goumindong wrote:
On August 28 2014 06:33 nafta wrote:
On August 28 2014 06:14 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Oh speaking of eloboosting though some guy named "lolacadmey" (yes, he spelled it wrong) added me yesterday as I was jumping into a solo queue game to ask if I wanted to boost for lol-academy.com or something. I declined and said I didn't have the time because I was getting my doctorate and he got super pissed at me. He was like "doctorate?" "what's that" and I responded "it means I will eventually be a doctor" and he was like "ur career is fuckin garbage" "i make more money than u already" and I was like "yes" "but you are surprisingly stupid for someone running an academy lol"

I kinda wanna get this guy shut down for being a dick.

Must be some new rising agency.Most know better than to ask random people in soloq.

Lol after some googling they aren't a rising agency weird.I really don't understand why can't riot just shut those down lol.


shutting them down requires either

A: Legal action

B: Banning accounts

But if you're doing League for a living by boosting you either don't need an account, or can get back to diamond fast enough by simply making a new account.

The only really effective way to stop it is by banning enough boosted accounts so that no one wants to risk boosting. But doing that is hard especially if boosting is done smart.

What do you mean by elo boosting is done smart?I just find it funny that sites like this exist and has semi-professional players like freeze on it and literally has an elo boosting tab on the front page.Why isn't he banned and apdo is?Sure the site doesn't list him as a booster but come on if they name drop like that clearly he is.

The reason I always talk about elo boosting and how riot does nothing about it is because I have friends who literally started boosting instead of getting a job cause we live in a shitty country lol.


If you play through a proxy(or any other not-fixed IP) so that you don't end up with 1 IP address connected to several accounts then it will just look like the person who is boosting went on vacation and decided to bring their laptop with them or was playing from a different computer. Similarly you make sure to only tie one or two extra IP's per account(so that you don't have accounts with lots of IP addresses on them). Then you simply don't say anything about boosting, smurfing, talk to friends, duo queue, or communicate while boosting so you don't get reported.

Filtering out people who play on multiple IP addresses legitimately and those who play on multiple IP addresses illegitimately is not easy.

The only other way to get rid of the practice would be sue to business people. Which means first finding them, and then convincing a jury that they're hurting the game. Officially the people they list on their site are just coaching, which Riot doesn't have policies against, they can't go boosters directly without evidence they're actually account boosting(well i mean, they could, but it probably wouldn't be worth it).
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
August 27 2014 22:25 GMT
#269
Hoyl fuck that new Cassiopea passive:
New passive: Cassiopeia gains a stack of Aspect of the Serpent for each second that an enemy champion is poisoned and for each poisoned unit that she kills. Her ability power is increased by 1% for every 25 stacks, up to a max of 375 stacks.

At 50 stacks, Twin Fang now heals Cassiopeia for 6/8/10/12/16 (+0.1 ability power)

At 150 stacks, Cassioepeia gains 30% CDR

At 375 stacks, the AP bonus from Aspect of the Serpent is doubled.

nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 27 2014 22:26 GMT
#270
On August 28 2014 07:22 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 06:45 nafta wrote:
On August 28 2014 06:40 Goumindong wrote:
On August 28 2014 06:33 nafta wrote:
On August 28 2014 06:14 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Oh speaking of eloboosting though some guy named "lolacadmey" (yes, he spelled it wrong) added me yesterday as I was jumping into a solo queue game to ask if I wanted to boost for lol-academy.com or something. I declined and said I didn't have the time because I was getting my doctorate and he got super pissed at me. He was like "doctorate?" "what's that" and I responded "it means I will eventually be a doctor" and he was like "ur career is fuckin garbage" "i make more money than u already" and I was like "yes" "but you are surprisingly stupid for someone running an academy lol"

I kinda wanna get this guy shut down for being a dick.

Must be some new rising agency.Most know better than to ask random people in soloq.

Lol after some googling they aren't a rising agency weird.I really don't understand why can't riot just shut those down lol.


shutting them down requires either

A: Legal action

B: Banning accounts

But if you're doing League for a living by boosting you either don't need an account, or can get back to diamond fast enough by simply making a new account.

The only really effective way to stop it is by banning enough boosted accounts so that no one wants to risk boosting. But doing that is hard especially if boosting is done smart.

What do you mean by elo boosting is done smart?I just find it funny that sites like this exist and has semi-professional players like freeze on it and literally has an elo boosting tab on the front page.Why isn't he banned and apdo is?Sure the site doesn't list him as a booster but come on if they name drop like that clearly he is.

The reason I always talk about elo boosting and how riot does nothing about it is because I have friends who literally started boosting instead of getting a job cause we live in a shitty country lol.


If you play through a proxy(or any other not-fixed IP) so that you don't end up with 1 IP address connected to several accounts then it will just look like the person who is boosting went on vacation and decided to bring their laptop with them or was playing from a different computer. Similarly you make sure to only tie one or two extra IP's per account(so that you don't have accounts with lots of IP addresses on them). Then you simply don't say anything about boosting, smurfing, talk to friends, duo queue, or communicate while boosting so you don't get reported.

Filtering out people who play on multiple IP addresses legitimately and those who play on multiple IP addresses illegitimately is not easy.

The only other way to get rid of the practice would be sue to business people. Which means first finding them, and then convincing a jury that they're hurting the game. Officially the people they list on their site are just coaching, which Riot doesn't have policies against, they can't go boosters directly without evidence they're actually account boosting(well i mean, they could, but it probably wouldn't be worth it).

I understand it isn't easy but seems ridiculous.How can they hire people who have sponsors that openly advertise something riot has clearly banned?

I also get they have to pretend like they care about elo boosting because of reputation and all but seems very unfair how some people get banned and others just leave completely free.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 27 2014 22:27 GMT
#271
More importantly, dem Cass changes.

Her damage is nerfed across the board (both bases and ratios, even at level 5 Twin Fangs needs 700 AP to catch up to the current one), but changes are made to help Twin Fangs stay "reseted" (probably checks if the target is poisoned when you cast too, so if the debuff expires during flight or the unit dies from another source, you still get the reset), she gets some more mobility (better slow, better MS later on, worse MS early though, and MS < dashes and hard lockdown), and later in the game a fuckton of AP (basically a free deathcap passive is she manages to stack it fully), most likely to help compensate a bit for all of the nerfs by making her a late game super strong champion.

Hitting skillshots and tagging your last hits with Q/W (whether you finish them with the spells, autos, or E) would become much more important, and she loses her lane bully status because of losing so much damage (Q harass also becomes weaker because only E still benefits from mana support, so she can't use it as much, if you go aggro without last hitting with E between aggros you'll get oom fast; also needing to last hit with E means tagging minions with Q/W so always pushing, makes it harder to zone). At the same time she won't push as hard.

Makes me wonder when she'll hit her power timings (obviously needs to max E first, and get at least one or two items, so it'll depend whether she still needs mana or not, skipping tear, etc.). Depends hugely on when she maxes out her passive too, so a Cass with a poor laning phase compared to one who manages to rack up the "seconds of poisoned enemy champions" (also whether there are early skirmishes/dragon fights/etc. where she can tag multiple champions at once) would make a huge difference.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
August 27 2014 22:47 GMT
#272
Dude i spammed her so much the last 3 weeks, and when i'm starting to feel barely ok, bam! mega changes to a champ nobody touched in ages...
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 27 2014 22:53 GMT
#273
Her E reset changes are long overdue. The rest I donno.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 27 2014 22:57 GMT
#274
I'm not sure why riot felt the need to change Cass so drastically.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 27 2014 22:59 GMT
#275
I think better reset on her E will solve her problems along with a small nerf on her E.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 27 2014 23:25 GMT
#276
On August 27 2014 22:18 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 21:05 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 27 2014 20:58 Sufficiency wrote:
Basically, the Tribunal was a failure. Not a surprise.


How is this the conclusion you're drawing from this discussion...?


Why do you think Riot disabled the Tribunal to make an entirely new system?


Actually, to clarify a few things: Tribunal wasn't broken. We had to take it down for some pretty immense upgrades, such as retooling the algorithms entirely to include machine learning, to add positive cases for review, and to make the system globally viable in every language around the world--that's a lot of work.

What we meant by diminishing returns was, the system was getting so accurate that continuing to work on accuracy was hitting diminishing returns. Instead, by using machine learning, we can also focus on improving how the Tribunal handles the 'severity' of cases and improving the speed of the system.

We'll be bringing the system back globally, which is a huge goal for us because for awhile only servers like NA/EU benefited from the system.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
August 27 2014 23:26 GMT
#277
On August 28 2014 07:57 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm not sure why riot felt the need to change Cass so drastically.


Just a theory, but maybe when they were experimenting with the new AA-Mage they thought they hit on something that would work for Cassio, who is the closest thing to an AA mage currently in the game.
Freeeeeeedom
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
August 27 2014 23:28 GMT
#278
The mana return on e will likely make tear even better on cass. Just get tear, farm with e, stack tear while gaining mana. Which is nice considering the horrible aa animation cass is plagued with
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 28 2014 00:14 GMT
#279
It's also possible that they are going to do a big Shurima Desert thing with Azir, and are going to re-Lore Cassiopeia to be a Shurima champion.

Notice how in the same patch they're doing a Shurima Khazix skin, a Xerath voiceover, Renekton and Cassiopeia visual updates, etc.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
August 28 2014 00:33 GMT
#280


And cass gets a new voice-over with specific banter with Azir. Sounds likely.

Also Sivir, maybe she'll get linked to the whole thing as well?
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