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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 27 2014 15:29 GMT
#201
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loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
August 27 2014 15:32 GMT
#202
Please, the new client is very improve. I especially like the part were you can't read more than 10 lines at once in chat channels and the removal of the minimize and close button in chat windows at the upper right.
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
August 27 2014 15:35 GMT
#203
I flame all the time and I've never been chat restricted or banned once although my flame is usually like 1-2 lines a game calling someone a dumbfuck but there have been a couple of times where I just fly off the handle and flame all game. I can't even fathom how much of a rager someone must be to actually get chat restricted/LPQ.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 27 2014 15:40 GMT
#204
On August 28 2014 00:21 RouaF wrote:
Sooo I opened the client aaaand...

[image loading]

Can't go past this lol

Jumping on this borked client party
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Glorious SEA doto
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 15:50:05
August 27 2014 15:47 GMT
#205
On August 27 2014 20:10 IamPryda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 19:53 Alaric wrote:
The tribunal is down atm, cut the "90% accuracy punish spam", it isn't relevant (anymore).
You don't get the "you've been reported recently" pop-up for the game you've just finished, but when you've been reported multiple times over multiple games recently. Riot wouldn't tell you "one of these 9 guys in your previous game reported you, he probably told you so in chat, go ahead and harass him."

About the "just get thicker skin", there are probably situations/stuff that irks them too, simply not in LoL. Well others can be aggravated by being insulted online, acting mighty about how you aren't as affected won't change much about the situation.
On the other hand, Riot is a company. Remember? It's in their interest that people keep playing the game. Turns out a large part of the player base doesn't enjoy being cursed at, and it acts as a deterrent to them logging on more often, or at all.
So.
Do you expect Riot to sigh like you do, tell them they should get thicker skin, and berate them?
Or do you expect Riot to try and make the environment more bearable so people play more?

Pretty much this. I think reporting people for cursing or yelling at someone is stupied I feel people do need thicker skin and need to stop being such little bitches but from riots POV they are running a bussiness and banning ppl serves a duel purpose it keeps the people who's feeling get hurt to easy from quitting the game and they make money of people who have to start new accounts losing all the things they spent rp on.


This is the attitude that bothers me, and usually it comes from the people who're most likely toxic.

It isn't a matter of "people's feelings getting hurt". That's a great way to phrase things, if you're the type of person who refers to other people as "little bitches" at any given opportunity.

Let's put it this way -- when you're on a train, or a bus, or an airplane, and there's some obnoxious kid running around, demanding attention, being loud: is anyone's feelings being hurt?

No.

But do we want someone to shut the kid up and put him in his seat for the comfort of us all?

Yes.

I applaud Riot in every step it takes towards addressing the toxicity of its players. Some MOBA gamers can be the rudest people imaginable. It makes the game less enjoyable for a lot of people. If you want to call people you don't even know "little bitches", then go to 4chan or whatever other hellhole caters to the anonymity-abusers -- don't bring it into a game where 9 other people are involved who're all most likely trying to relax with what little freedom they have in the day.
Big water
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 16:11:18
August 27 2014 16:10 GMT
#206
On August 28 2014 00:47 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 20:10 IamPryda wrote:
On August 27 2014 19:53 Alaric wrote:
The tribunal is down atm, cut the "90% accuracy punish spam", it isn't relevant (anymore).
You don't get the "you've been reported recently" pop-up for the game you've just finished, but when you've been reported multiple times over multiple games recently. Riot wouldn't tell you "one of these 9 guys in your previous game reported you, he probably told you so in chat, go ahead and harass him."

About the "just get thicker skin", there are probably situations/stuff that irks them too, simply not in LoL. Well others can be aggravated by being insulted online, acting mighty about how you aren't as affected won't change much about the situation.
On the other hand, Riot is a company. Remember? It's in their interest that people keep playing the game. Turns out a large part of the player base doesn't enjoy being cursed at, and it acts as a deterrent to them logging on more often, or at all.
So.
Do you expect Riot to sigh like you do, tell them they should get thicker skin, and berate them?
Or do you expect Riot to try and make the environment more bearable so people play more?

Pretty much this. I think reporting people for cursing or yelling at someone is stupied I feel people do need thicker skin and need to stop being such little bitches but from riots POV they are running a bussiness and banning ppl serves a duel purpose it keeps the people who's feeling get hurt to easy from quitting the game and they make money of people who have to start new accounts losing all the things they spent rp on.


This is the attitude that bothers me, and usually it comes from the people who're most likely toxic.

It isn't a matter of "people's feelings getting hurt". That's a great way to phrase things, if you're the type of person who refers to other people as "little bitches" at any given opportunity.

Let's put it this way -- when you're on a train, or a bus, or an airplane, and there's some obnoxious kid running around, demanding attention, being loud: is anyone's feelings being hurt?

No.

But do we want someone to shut the kid up and put him in his seat for the comfort of us all?

Yes.

I applaud Riot in every step it takes towards addressing the toxicity of its players. Some MOBA gamers can be the rudest people imaginable. It makes the game less enjoyable for a lot of people. If you want to call people you don't even know "little bitches", then go to 4chan or whatever other hellhole caters to the anonymity-abusers -- don't bring it into a game where 9 other people are involved who're all most likely trying to relax with what little freedom they have in the day.

I choose to tell him to shut up or tell his parent to shut there kid up what I don't do is go file a complaint. Maybe it's just being from NYC where people don't have a filter when it comes to expressing our opinion. But when someone does or says stupied shit I let them know how I feel. Mind you I have never been banned or chat restricted in the year and half I have played this game. If someone is mindless spaming stuff that annoys you mute them who cares, problem solved. If I got 0/5 in lane and someone tells me I am fucking terrible over and over I am not gonna report them what's the point. The only thing riot needs is a mute button leave buster and intentional feeding detection and the abilty to restart a game if I player fails to load in first 2 mins. Anything else is just an excuse to make weak minded people like you feel better
Moar banelings less qq
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 27 2014 16:11 GMT
#207
On August 28 2014 00:40 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 00:21 RouaF wrote:
Sooo I opened the client aaaand...

[image loading]

Can't go past this lol

Jumping on this borked client party
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I don't always test my code, when I do I do it in production.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 27 2014 16:17 GMT
#208
On August 28 2014 01:10 IamPryda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 00:47 Leporello wrote:
On August 27 2014 20:10 IamPryda wrote:
On August 27 2014 19:53 Alaric wrote:
The tribunal is down atm, cut the "90% accuracy punish spam", it isn't relevant (anymore).
You don't get the "you've been reported recently" pop-up for the game you've just finished, but when you've been reported multiple times over multiple games recently. Riot wouldn't tell you "one of these 9 guys in your previous game reported you, he probably told you so in chat, go ahead and harass him."

About the "just get thicker skin", there are probably situations/stuff that irks them too, simply not in LoL. Well others can be aggravated by being insulted online, acting mighty about how you aren't as affected won't change much about the situation.
On the other hand, Riot is a company. Remember? It's in their interest that people keep playing the game. Turns out a large part of the player base doesn't enjoy being cursed at, and it acts as a deterrent to them logging on more often, or at all.
So.
Do you expect Riot to sigh like you do, tell them they should get thicker skin, and berate them?
Or do you expect Riot to try and make the environment more bearable so people play more?

Pretty much this. I think reporting people for cursing or yelling at someone is stupied I feel people do need thicker skin and need to stop being such little bitches but from riots POV they are running a bussiness and banning ppl serves a duel purpose it keeps the people who's feeling get hurt to easy from quitting the game and they make money of people who have to start new accounts losing all the things they spent rp on.


This is the attitude that bothers me, and usually it comes from the people who're most likely toxic.

It isn't a matter of "people's feelings getting hurt". That's a great way to phrase things, if you're the type of person who refers to other people as "little bitches" at any given opportunity.

Let's put it this way -- when you're on a train, or a bus, or an airplane, and there's some obnoxious kid running around, demanding attention, being loud: is anyone's feelings being hurt?

No.

But do we want someone to shut the kid up and put him in his seat for the comfort of us all?

Yes.

I applaud Riot in every step it takes towards addressing the toxicity of its players. Some MOBA gamers can be the rudest people imaginable. It makes the game less enjoyable for a lot of people. If you want to call people you don't even know "little bitches", then go to 4chan or whatever other hellhole caters to the anonymity-abusers -- don't bring it into a game where 9 other people are involved who're all most likely trying to relax with what little freedom they have in the day.

I choose to tell him to shut up or tell his parent to shut there kid up what I don't do is go file a complaint. Maybe it's just being from NYC where people don't have a filter when it comes to expressing our opinion. But when someone does or says stupied shit I let them know how I feel. Mind you I have never been banned or chat restricted in the year and half I have played this game. If someone is mindless spaming stuff that annoys you mute them who cares, problem solved. If I got 0/5 in lane and someone tells me I am fucking terrible over and over I am not gonna report them what's the point. The only thing riot needs is a mute button leave buster and intentional feeding detection and the abilty to restart a game if I player fails to load in first 2 mins. Anything else is just an excuse to make weak minded people like you feel better

I shouldn't have to mute my teammates in a game based on team communication.
Writer@WriterYamato
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 27 2014 16:18 GMT
#209
You also shouldn't have to live with people insulting you when you go to play a game with them.

Pretty common sense really.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 27 2014 16:25 GMT
#210
Case in point: recently I went 2-9 in lane. No one spammed how bad I was, they just kept playing. I kept playing, despite my mistakes. Eventually, they made a bad decision by 5 manning mid tower against 4 of my team too early in the game and traded evenly while I took two towers bot and solo killed a pursuing enemy, getting myself and my team back in the game. I ended 10-10 in a relatively easy win after that point. If my teammates had gone off the handle and raged at me, I probably don't have the confidence to make the decision I did, even if I muted them. But instead of acting like entitled 12 year olds, they let me play my game and it paid off. No reason that can't be the situation in every game. Rage has no place in a cooperative setting, even if it is supposed to be competitive.
Writer@WriterYamato
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 27 2014 16:27 GMT
#211
well got into the new client went straight to testing match history, it's still a link to outside the client, hopes and dreams shattered.
Carrilord has arrived.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 16:33:57
August 27 2014 16:29 GMT
#212
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Merlin the Tuna
Profile Joined May 2011
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 17:24:41
August 27 2014 16:48 GMT
#213
On August 28 2014 01:25 yamato77 wrote:
Case in point: recently I went 2-9 in lane. No one spammed how bad I was, they just kept playing. I kept playing, despite my mistakes. Eventually, they made a bad decision by 5 manning mid tower against 4 of my team too early in the game and traded evenly while I took two towers bot and solo killed a pursuing enemy, getting myself and my team back in the game. I ended 10-10 in a relatively easy win after that point. If my teammates had gone off the handle and raged at me, I probably don't have the confidence to make the decision I did, even if I muted them. But instead of acting like entitled 12 year olds, they let me play my game and it paid off. No reason that can't be the situation in every game. Rage has no place in a cooperative setting, even if it is supposed to be competitive.
And the flip side of this: I recently got completely smashed in lane as Graves versus Caitlyn. It's a tough matchup to begin with, and we lost the level 2/3 skirmish which basically meant Cait had complete control, pushing into turret constantly and peppering us with autos as I tried to clear. We gave up a couple kills, but the bigger issue was the constant pressure and the fact that she had a gigantic CS lead. Realizing that there was no way I was coming back into the game, that Cait wanted nothing more to do than push bottom lane, and that I'd be taking massive harass any time I was in her area, I went BT first. That gave me a little extra durability and sustain, letting me clear waves and stall her out at the inner turret, essentially turning the game into a 4v4 where a big chunk of their gold advantage was tied up not accomplishing anything.

My support Lulu (who was for some reason running Clarity, which was at least one small part of why we lost that crucial first skirmish) went ballistic, ranting on about "S3 Graves," "bought his account," "don't play ranked if _____." My team lost a couple 4v4s, and suddenly our Ori mid was yelling about "I'm not fighting again without an ADC" even though neither Cait or I was in the area. And it spiraled from there, with the top and jungler deciding that I was the sole reason the game had gone south, and if only I had the good sense to build IE first everything would be sunshine and roses.

This opposing Caitlyn, who was apparently supposed to be my role model, ended the game 5/8/5. She was the only negative score on a team which won and had 31 total kills, and even had two more deaths than I did. She was present for fewer than half of the tower sieges.

Why should the right course of action here be just to mute Lulu? I mean I did, eventually. But while our sloppy laning put us behind, he and he alone derailed any chance of our team winning and turned the whole thing into a 35 minute bitchfest. Why should I not report him? Even if he doesn't actually learn anything from being chat restricted, he at least can't be a gigantic asshole to the next person he plays with. And if he's a repeat offender, he gets suspended or banned, sparing even more people that kind of douchebaggery. I'm not seeing a downside here.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 17:04:52
August 27 2014 16:59 GMT
#214
bt first on Graves isn't even bad when winning lol

a lot of people like to shit on bt but the truth is after it disappeared from the game completely it got buffed to the point where it's actually kinda nice, ESPECIALLY on graves because of how much eHP he gets from it + his passive.
Carrilord has arrived.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 27 2014 17:12 GMT
#215
On August 28 2014 01:59 Slusher wrote:
bt first on Graves isn't even bad when winning lol

a lot of people like to shit on bt but the truth is after it disappeared from the game completely it got buffed to the point where it's actually kinda nice, ESPECIALLY on graves because of how much eHP he gets from it + his passive.

Still weak early. The eHP boost isn't strong until later levels especially because of the non-linear scaling. The main thing is that makes it OK is that it has AD and sustain and you can't easily get both of those in that amount without a lot of slots used on items you're going to have to sell anyway. And graves wants lots of both due to his kit.

I am torn on what his final build should be though. The standard BT, IE, GB/PD, LW, Scimitar, Boots 2? Or BT, GB, LW, Scimitar, BotRK, boots 2.
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
August 27 2014 17:15 GMT
#216
BT is really nice, but not as first item.If it's just BT vs IE the difference is not that big, but as soon as you get your second item IE outscales BT hard. Only case that is not true is when you build TF as 2nd item, but in that case you can just go TF first and it's probably better.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 17:20:33
August 27 2014 17:16 GMT
#217
On August 28 2014 02:12 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 01:59 Slusher wrote:
bt first on Graves isn't even bad when winning lol

a lot of people like to shit on bt but the truth is after it disappeared from the game completely it got buffed to the point where it's actually kinda nice, ESPECIALLY on graves because of how much eHP he gets from it + his passive.

Still weak early. The eHP boost isn't strong until later levels especially because of the non-linear scaling. The main thing is that makes it OK is that it has AD and sustain and you can't easily get both of those in that amount without a lot of slots used on items you're going to have to sell anyway. And graves wants lots of both due to his kit.

I am torn on what his final build should be though. The standard BT, IE, GB/PD, LW, Scimitar, Boots 2? Or BT, GB, LW, Scimitar, BotRK, boots 2.


guess what the damage on going grail first sucks dick too, but going bt on a low range adc like Graves increases your ability to farm much like grail does

reguardless, the point being, the choice to go BT first is far from a griefable offence.
Carrilord has arrived.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 27 2014 17:18 GMT
#218
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 27 2014 17:39 GMT
#219
I troll, I flame, I make threats, I feed and afk. Never got banned or chat restricted so far. warned maybe once
I enjoy the toxic in my games
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 18:05:00
August 27 2014 18:04 GMT
#220
Mentioned this before, but the toxicity that was the original Counter Strike community was the funnest time I've ever had on a video game.
This is also what made fgc so fun to watch was the amount of shit talking, flaming, and general unpleasantness.
Hell, that's what makes the internet funny as hell. The continual policing of behaviour in games have led to less fun.

That being said, it's understandable why Riot has taken this stance, especially since it's trying so hard to bring LoL to the public.
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