[Patch 4.15] Master Tier General Discussion - Page 11
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JimmiC
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
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aurawashere
Canada454 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 28 2014 00:21 RouaF wrote: Sooo I opened the client aaaand... ![]() Can't go past this lol Jumping on this borked client party + Show Spoiler + | ||
Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On August 27 2014 20:10 IamPryda wrote: Pretty much this. I think reporting people for cursing or yelling at someone is stupied I feel people do need thicker skin and need to stop being such little bitches but from riots POV they are running a bussiness and banning ppl serves a duel purpose it keeps the people who's feeling get hurt to easy from quitting the game and they make money of people who have to start new accounts losing all the things they spent rp on. This is the attitude that bothers me, and usually it comes from the people who're most likely toxic. It isn't a matter of "people's feelings getting hurt". That's a great way to phrase things, if you're the type of person who refers to other people as "little bitches" at any given opportunity. Let's put it this way -- when you're on a train, or a bus, or an airplane, and there's some obnoxious kid running around, demanding attention, being loud: is anyone's feelings being hurt? No. But do we want someone to shut the kid up and put him in his seat for the comfort of us all? Yes. I applaud Riot in every step it takes towards addressing the toxicity of its players. Some MOBA gamers can be the rudest people imaginable. It makes the game less enjoyable for a lot of people. If you want to call people you don't even know "little bitches", then go to 4chan or whatever other hellhole caters to the anonymity-abusers -- don't bring it into a game where 9 other people are involved who're all most likely trying to relax with what little freedom they have in the day. | ||
IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On August 28 2014 00:47 Leporello wrote: This is the attitude that bothers me, and usually it comes from the people who're most likely toxic. It isn't a matter of "people's feelings getting hurt". That's a great way to phrase things, if you're the type of person who refers to other people as "little bitches" at any given opportunity. Let's put it this way -- when you're on a train, or a bus, or an airplane, and there's some obnoxious kid running around, demanding attention, being loud: is anyone's feelings being hurt? No. But do we want someone to shut the kid up and put him in his seat for the comfort of us all? Yes. I applaud Riot in every step it takes towards addressing the toxicity of its players. Some MOBA gamers can be the rudest people imaginable. It makes the game less enjoyable for a lot of people. If you want to call people you don't even know "little bitches", then go to 4chan or whatever other hellhole caters to the anonymity-abusers -- don't bring it into a game where 9 other people are involved who're all most likely trying to relax with what little freedom they have in the day. I choose to tell him to shut up or tell his parent to shut there kid up what I don't do is go file a complaint. Maybe it's just being from NYC where people don't have a filter when it comes to expressing our opinion. But when someone does or says stupied shit I let them know how I feel. Mind you I have never been banned or chat restricted in the year and half I have played this game. If someone is mindless spaming stuff that annoys you mute them who cares, problem solved. If I got 0/5 in lane and someone tells me I am fucking terrible over and over I am not gonna report them what's the point. The only thing riot needs is a mute button leave buster and intentional feeding detection and the abilty to restart a game if I player fails to load in first 2 mins. Anything else is just an excuse to make weak minded people like you feel better | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I don't always test my code, when I do I do it in production. | ||
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yamato77
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On August 28 2014 01:10 IamPryda wrote: I choose to tell him to shut up or tell his parent to shut there kid up what I don't do is go file a complaint. Maybe it's just being from NYC where people don't have a filter when it comes to expressing our opinion. But when someone does or says stupied shit I let them know how I feel. Mind you I have never been banned or chat restricted in the year and half I have played this game. If someone is mindless spaming stuff that annoys you mute them who cares, problem solved. If I got 0/5 in lane and someone tells me I am fucking terrible over and over I am not gonna report them what's the point. The only thing riot needs is a mute button leave buster and intentional feeding detection and the abilty to restart a game if I player fails to load in first 2 mins. Anything else is just an excuse to make weak minded people like you feel better I shouldn't have to mute my teammates in a game based on team communication. | ||
Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Pretty common sense really. | ||
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yamato77
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Slusher
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Merlin the Tuna
United States57 Posts
On August 28 2014 01:25 yamato77 wrote: And the flip side of this: I recently got completely smashed in lane as Graves versus Caitlyn. It's a tough matchup to begin with, and we lost the level 2/3 skirmish which basically meant Cait had complete control, pushing into turret constantly and peppering us with autos as I tried to clear. We gave up a couple kills, but the bigger issue was the constant pressure and the fact that she had a gigantic CS lead. Realizing that there was no way I was coming back into the game, that Cait wanted nothing more to do than push bottom lane, and that I'd be taking massive harass any time I was in her area, I went BT first. That gave me a little extra durability and sustain, letting me clear waves and stall her out at the inner turret, essentially turning the game into a 4v4 where a big chunk of their gold advantage was tied up not accomplishing anything.Case in point: recently I went 2-9 in lane. No one spammed how bad I was, they just kept playing. I kept playing, despite my mistakes. Eventually, they made a bad decision by 5 manning mid tower against 4 of my team too early in the game and traded evenly while I took two towers bot and solo killed a pursuing enemy, getting myself and my team back in the game. I ended 10-10 in a relatively easy win after that point. If my teammates had gone off the handle and raged at me, I probably don't have the confidence to make the decision I did, even if I muted them. But instead of acting like entitled 12 year olds, they let me play my game and it paid off. No reason that can't be the situation in every game. Rage has no place in a cooperative setting, even if it is supposed to be competitive. My support Lulu (who was for some reason running Clarity, which was at least one small part of why we lost that crucial first skirmish) went ballistic, ranting on about "S3 Graves," "bought his account," "don't play ranked if _____." My team lost a couple 4v4s, and suddenly our Ori mid was yelling about "I'm not fighting again without an ADC" even though neither Cait or I was in the area. And it spiraled from there, with the top and jungler deciding that I was the sole reason the game had gone south, and if only I had the good sense to build IE first everything would be sunshine and roses. This opposing Caitlyn, who was apparently supposed to be my role model, ended the game 5/8/5. She was the only negative score on a team which won and had 31 total kills, and even had two more deaths than I did. She was present for fewer than half of the tower sieges. Why should the right course of action here be just to mute Lulu? I mean I did, eventually. But while our sloppy laning put us behind, he and he alone derailed any chance of our team winning and turned the whole thing into a 35 minute bitchfest. Why should I not report him? Even if he doesn't actually learn anything from being chat restricted, he at least can't be a gigantic asshole to the next person he plays with. And if he's a repeat offender, he gets suspended or banned, sparing even more people that kind of douchebaggery. I'm not seeing a downside here. | ||
Slusher
United States19143 Posts
a lot of people like to shit on bt but the truth is after it disappeared from the game completely it got buffed to the point where it's actually kinda nice, ESPECIALLY on graves because of how much eHP he gets from it + his passive. | ||
Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On August 28 2014 01:59 Slusher wrote: bt first on Graves isn't even bad when winning lol a lot of people like to shit on bt but the truth is after it disappeared from the game completely it got buffed to the point where it's actually kinda nice, ESPECIALLY on graves because of how much eHP he gets from it + his passive. Still weak early. The eHP boost isn't strong until later levels especially because of the non-linear scaling. The main thing is that makes it OK is that it has AD and sustain and you can't easily get both of those in that amount without a lot of slots used on items you're going to have to sell anyway. And graves wants lots of both due to his kit. I am torn on what his final build should be though. The standard BT, IE, GB/PD, LW, Scimitar, Boots 2? Or BT, GB, LW, Scimitar, BotRK, boots 2. | ||
loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On August 28 2014 02:12 Goumindong wrote: Still weak early. The eHP boost isn't strong until later levels especially because of the non-linear scaling. The main thing is that makes it OK is that it has AD and sustain and you can't easily get both of those in that amount without a lot of slots used on items you're going to have to sell anyway. And graves wants lots of both due to his kit. I am torn on what his final build should be though. The standard BT, IE, GB/PD, LW, Scimitar, Boots 2? Or BT, GB, LW, Scimitar, BotRK, boots 2. guess what the damage on going grail first sucks dick too, but going bt on a low range adc like Graves increases your ability to farm much like grail does reguardless, the point being, the choice to go BT first is far from a griefable offence. | ||
JimmiC
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
I enjoy the toxic in my games | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
This is also what made fgc so fun to watch was the amount of shit talking, flaming, and general unpleasantness. Hell, that's what makes the internet funny as hell. The continual policing of behaviour in games have led to less fun. That being said, it's understandable why Riot has taken this stance, especially since it's trying so hard to bring LoL to the public. | ||
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