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UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
August 22 2014 17:58 GMT
#1161
On August 23 2014 02:44 Osmoses wrote:
Just played against alistar top for the first time. The bullshit is real. It wouldn't be nearly as strong without his w though, as it essentially leaves it completely up to him if and when there's gonna be any fighting in lane.

Yeah, more specifically its the W+auto, the fact that you can get an auto off as you push them away with sheen is like the ultimate harass, nobody can counter trade that harass.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 17:59:57
August 22 2014 17:59 GMT
#1162
nasus can do it easily and im sure garen can too probably maokai and mundo have no problem
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 22 2014 18:00 GMT
#1163
Vlad murders Alistar top.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 22 2014 18:12 GMT
#1164
I've seen an ali push a darius away while radius pressed E. The ali died shortly thereafter.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 18:54:46
August 22 2014 18:48 GMT
#1165
isnt vlad pool supposed to stop fiora's ulti immediately ? i could swear i got hit multiple times while in pool in my last game
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
August 22 2014 19:06 GMT
#1166
On August 23 2014 03:48 kongoline wrote:
isnt vlad pool supposed to stop fiora's ulti immediately ? i could swear i got hit multiple times while in pool in my last game

I was under the impression that they "bug fixed" Fiora's ult so that it continues to swing for each hit (0 damage) even if the other person uses zhonyas or becomes untargetable for any reason. They also made it so you couldn't just cancel her ult by running into unwarded bushes.
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Merlin the Tuna
Profile Joined May 2011
United States57 Posts
August 22 2014 19:18 GMT
#1167
Does Teemo's blind still block Fiora's ult? That was always my favorite goofy blind interaction.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 22 2014 19:21 GMT
#1168
why is it goofy, they are on hit attacks.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 19:41:48
August 22 2014 19:41 GMT
#1169
On August 23 2014 02:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Uh Yi can be shut down easily if your team got half a brain and pick something to counter him.

There is no counter to Yi outside of "cc and burst," which counters every champion outside of blinds, which are by far very few and scattered in the game.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 22 2014 19:47 GMT
#1170
Unlike a Katarina, a Yi cannot kill you instantly. He actually needs to slash you a few times.

Also most Yis build full damage.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 19:57:43
August 22 2014 19:55 GMT
#1171
On August 23 2014 04:47 Sufficiency wrote:
Unlike a Katarina, a Yi cannot kill you instantly. He actually needs to slash you a few times.

Also most Yis build full damage.

AP champions build full damage too, their ridiculously good itemization just handholds them so they aren't frail. Also, a Katarina generally needs to spin for a bit and doesn't heal while killing people.

https://developer.riotgames.com/discussion/riot-games-api/show/oklxAP21

Thank goodness.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 22 2014 20:01 GMT
#1172
No more "these two are duos" bullshit.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 20:04:33
August 22 2014 20:02 GMT
#1173
On August 23 2014 05:01 Sufficiency wrote:
No more "these two are duos" bullshit.

Or assholes intentionally fucking over promo series.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 20:07:17
August 22 2014 20:06 GMT
#1174
On August 23 2014 04:41 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 02:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Uh Yi can be shut down easily if your team got half a brain and pick something to counter him.

There is no counter to Yi outside of "cc and burst," which counters every champion outside of blinds, which are by far very few and scattered in the game.


cc and burst counters squishy melees who don't provide any value if they die quickly which is exactly what yi is

if you cc and burst a malphite or a vi or something your adc could be dead ad you just focused a malphite or vi so good luck.

theres a reason nobody plays squishy melees with no CC in pro games, sometimes assassins with insane mobility and burst get through because they can kill someone before you can cc them.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
August 22 2014 20:09 GMT
#1175
yet ghostcrawler thinks ranged are in disadvantage because they have to kite ...
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 20:10:12
August 22 2014 20:09 GMT
#1176
Except the game isn't balanced for pro teams with voice communication and regular practice, it's balanced for approximately Bronze 3 through Silver 4.

Yi is actually pretty strong in soloQ if you don't go full retard and dive in at the beginning of the fight, literally wait 5 seconds for them to burn some stuff, then go in and feel ashamed if you don't pad your KDA by at least 3 points
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#1177
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 20:47:42
August 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#1178
On August 23 2014 05:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
Except the game isn't balanced for pro teams with voice communication and regular practice, it's balanced for approximately Bronze 3 through Silver 4.

Yi is actually pretty strong in soloQ if you don't go full retard and dive in at the beginning of the fight, literally wait 5 seconds for them to burn some stuff, then go in and feel ashamed if you don't pad your KDA by at least 3 points


lol yeah it wouldn't be in riots interest to have a fun pro scene unless they had like a professional circuit or something

On August 23 2014 05:09 kongoline wrote:
yet ghostcrawler thinks ranged are in disadvantage because they have to kite ...


can you source this?
it sounds like an oversimplification. being able to kite is a privilege in itself, you have to kite because you are weaker in a straight fight, if you were even and could kite naturally you'd have an advantage.

the reason ranged have to kite is because melees are given far superior stats and kit to offset the massive disadvantage of being a melee.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
August 22 2014 20:52 GMT
#1179
On August 23 2014 05:44 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 05:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
Except the game isn't balanced for pro teams with voice communication and regular practice, it's balanced for approximately Bronze 3 through Silver 4.

Yi is actually pretty strong in soloQ if you don't go full retard and dive in at the beginning of the fight, literally wait 5 seconds for them to burn some stuff, then go in and feel ashamed if you don't pad your KDA by at least 3 points


lol yeah it wouldn't be in riots interest to have a fun pro scene unless they had like a professional circuit or something

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 05:09 kongoline wrote:
yet ghostcrawler thinks ranged are in disadvantage because they have to kite ...


can you source this?

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4718644&highlight=hashinshin
somewhere in there
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 22 2014 21:21 GMT
#1180
On August 23 2014 02:44 Osmoses wrote:
Just played against alistar top for the first time. The bullshit is real. It wouldn't be nearly as strong without his w though, as it essentially leaves it completely up to him if and when there's gonna be any fighting in lane.

Alistar gets absolutely wrecked by the vast majority of ranged champions though. Nidalee and Vlad both shit on him super hard. A good Lulu probably does too, but I've been able to win that matchup with Ali more often than not. Nasus can also ignore Ali's harass with a defensive start.
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