[Patch 4.13] Sona Update General Discussion - Page 50

On August 08 2014 20:01 Gahlo wrote:

Yeah, but it makes more sense for the support to Mikael's up to deal with Rammus than for an entire team to QSS.

Do we not have an LPL thread?

On August 08 2014 17:50 GolemMadness wrote:
I think it's going to be Xerath.

On August 08 2014 23:32 padfoota wrote:
Im running into a lot of alistar top laners. While they seem to go normal builds (AP super tanky), the challengers on my server go TF shiv alistar top. Someone explain >_>

On August 08 2014 23:37 Gorsameth wrote:

EU LCS of this week
TF/Shiv Alister seems to be a thing.

On August 09 2014 00:00 Capped wrote:
I miss S2.

HoG / Philo / GP10 rune soraka support OP.

It was cancer and i embraced it.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 08 2014 23:54 Gahlo wrote:
You know, I actually kinda miss the days of Bulwark/Locket jungling in early S3. It was fun in it's own way.

On August 08 2014 23:54 Gahlo wrote:
You know, I actually kinda miss the days of Bulwark/Locket jungling in early S3. It was fun in it's own way.

On August 08 2014 17:44 Alaric wrote:
Na, Eve's model is outdated and they'd like to redo it apparently, so it' probably Lux. I mean, Ezreal has a fuckton of skins already, doesn't stop them. I feel like they could really go crazy with Nautilus or Hecarim but they aren't popular enough.

And Wukong/Pantheon/etc. didn't need to get nerfed, they only came into the jungle because they were already too weak to offlane and the meta didn't favour physical melee mids. It had nothing to do with them being good junglers, but them having desirable traits (ganking potential from Pantheon, AoE initiation from Wukong) that teams wanted to have but had to jungle them because it was the only place they could fir them in.
Zzz goddamn Riot.


*QSS, been there for 2 more seasons at least

Rammus has a single-target cc which, while point'n'click, has very short range when he has no way of reaching a protected target without Flash (because it's easier to bodyblock a QE than a RE from Ahri for example). Also he's no good at really "catching" ranged champions because he can't drag them.
Also 3s -> 2.25s, 25% duration reduction thanks Riot.
He's designed as a tank but has issues catching mobile enemies and only has one single-target cc, with meh duration considering all this, and on a long-ish cooldown.

I wonder how they build Rammus but he seems so weak lategame because of the "only one single-target cc" (not sure about Q but even if it can technically interrupt dashes doesn't it have a small time before the knock-up is "available" upon activation, meaning you have to predict?), he doesn't do that much dps ('cause he doesn't really force you to attack him compared to, say, Maokai or Mundo) and his steroid's uptime isn't that good.
So they try to snowball with him, also counteracting his slow clear somehow?

I mean, Rammus is cool, but I'm so perplexed as to how they make it work (I assume Sunfire is core to make up for his meh damage).

On August 09 2014 01:20 Osmoses wrote:
A common argument, but assuming you play in the league you belong in, you ought to be behind in roughly 50% of your games. And its a great pick when forced into a role you don't feel confident in.