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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 01:29:16
August 07 2014 01:27 GMT
#881
On August 07 2014 10:14 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 10:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 07 2014 10:05 Goumindong wrote:
On August 07 2014 10:02 Navi wrote:
does dodging a game during a promotion series DQ you from the series or just gives you one loss?

It counts the dodge as a loss but doesn't auto DQ the entire series.

pretty sure dodging kicks you out of your series.


Nope, got patched. It used to originally.

Huh. Didn't know that. When was it patched?

On August 07 2014 10:27 Dark_Chill wrote:
Does windwall or doorwall stop Alistar's headbutt?

why would it? Alistar's headbutt isn't a projectile. It's a flying cow. You can flash it because the headbutt is essentially a targeted dash.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 07 2014 02:07 GMT
#882
On August 07 2014 09:18 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 09:10 Goumindong wrote:
Dodging doesn't lose you MMR, just LP. You will get the LP back the next game regardless of the outcome.

If you dodge then lose you will lose less LP than if you had just lost 1 game such that the total LP after playing an actual game is the same regardless of whether or not you dodged

If you dodge then win you will win more LP than if you had just won 1 game such that the total LP after playing an actual game is the same regardless of whether or not you dodged.

There isn't really a reason, unless you're in a promo series where a dodge counts as a loss, to not dodge games anymore. The penalty is all in your head.

The cost is not being able to report the troll who made you dodge. And helping to get another toxic member out of the community is worth the hit in MMR/LP tbh.

there have to be about a million better ways to make sacrifices for the greater good of humanity than wasting 30 minutes of your life in a miserable rage filled game with teammates you hate just to add one more report to the hundreds that may or may not eventually lead to some douchebag (who you will almost certainly never play with again either way) getting banned for 3 days.

if you want to be a selfless hero making a real impact in people's lives you should be the guy who bites the bullet, takes the LP loss, and dodges to save the other 3 people on your team the misery of being stuck on a team with that guy.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 07 2014 02:11 GMT
#883
On August 07 2014 07:11 kongoline wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2ctooc/twitchtv_audio_copyrights_it_starts/
was fun when it lasted ....

Noooooooo!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 07 2014 02:23 GMT
#884
Yo, what the hell do I do with runes now a days?

I still running like S2 style runes lol. Jungle specifically, but is there somewhere where I can find like a compendium of whats the best now a days? been meaning to look at it for awhile, but havn't got around to it. Have like 26000 IP and a ton of ton of pages too.
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
August 07 2014 02:50 GMT
#885
On August 07 2014 11:23 iCanada wrote:
Yo, what the hell do I do with runes now a days?

I still running like S2 style runes lol. Jungle specifically, but is there somewhere where I can find like a compendium of whats the best now a days? been meaning to look at it for awhile, but havn't got around to it. Have like 26000 IP and a ton of ton of pages too.

Im fairly sure that question was answered in the simple questions simple answers thread. I could be wrong.
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 07 2014 03:48 GMT
#886
wtb more stuff to spend ip on, 25k and counting on main account..
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 04:25:59
August 07 2014 04:17 GMT
#887
On August 07 2014 10:27 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 10:14 Ethelis wrote:
On August 07 2014 10:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 07 2014 10:05 Goumindong wrote:
On August 07 2014 10:02 Navi wrote:
does dodging a game during a promotion series DQ you from the series or just gives you one loss?

It counts the dodge as a loss but doesn't auto DQ the entire series.

pretty sure dodging kicks you out of your series.


Nope, got patched. It used to originally.

Huh. Didn't know that. When was it patched?

Season 4's start.

e. Ran into USnip on reddit. Responded to him in surprise. Somehow get upvoted 5 times for it.

Either TL-LoL is stalking me on reddit or reddit is stalking TL-LoL.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
August 07 2014 05:50 GMT
#888
On August 07 2014 11:23 iCanada wrote:
Yo, what the hell do I do with runes now a days?

I still running like S2 style runes lol. Jungle specifically, but is there somewhere where I can find like a compendium of whats the best now a days? been meaning to look at it for awhile, but havn't got around to it. Have like 26000 IP and a ton of ton of pages too.

Quick way to check is just check probuilds.net and see which rune pages pros are using for various champions. If you check a game or two from 5-6 different people you can generally get a feel for the different runepages people are running for each champ.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 07 2014 06:01 GMT
#889
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GG Twitch, GG Google.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 07 2014 06:06 GMT
#890
Well, I'm in game with scarizard and mspudding. Anybody got questions for them?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
August 07 2014 06:07 GMT
#891
On August 07 2014 12:48 Slusher wrote:
wtb more stuff to spend ip on, 25k and counting on main account..


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get on my level
:3
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 07 2014 06:10 GMT
#892
On August 07 2014 15:07 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 12:48 Slusher wrote:
wtb more stuff to spend ip on, 25k and counting on main account..


[image loading]
get on my level

Ah... sportsmanlike player in 2012 :D Santa Baron summoner icon, nice shit, I'm jelly.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 07:14:29
August 07 2014 07:14 GMT
#893
On August 07 2014 11:23 iCanada wrote:
Yo, what the hell do I do with runes now a days?

I still running like S2 style runes lol. Jungle specifically, but is there somewhere where I can find like a compendium of whats the best now a days? been meaning to look at it for awhile, but havn't got around to it. Have like 26000 IP and a ton of ton of pages too.

Junglers almost always get attack speed or AD reds (I use different only on Elise), flat armor yellow is still da bes imo, blues either flat CDR or flat AP (fuck Mres imoimo), quints are AD/AP/Atk spe depending on champion
which one of those you need to use for specific champion you have to test or ask me
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11921 Posts
August 07 2014 07:36 GMT
#894
On August 07 2014 09:19 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 09:18 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 07 2014 09:10 Goumindong wrote:
Dodging doesn't lose you MMR, just LP. You will get the LP back the next game regardless of the outcome.

If you dodge then lose you will lose less LP than if you had just lost 1 game such that the total LP after playing an actual game is the same regardless of whether or not you dodged

If you dodge then win you will win more LP than if you had just won 1 game such that the total LP after playing an actual game is the same regardless of whether or not you dodged.

There isn't really a reason, unless you're in a promo series where a dodge counts as a loss, to not dodge games anymore. The penalty is all in your head.

The cost is not being able to report the troll who made you dodge. And helping to get another toxic member out of the community is worth the hit in MMR/LP tbh.


If everyone dodged the trolls instead of report them, the trolls would never be able to play and therefore be removed anyway. Not that i dodge often / can remember the last time i did lol.


Multiple problems here. Firstly, you get punished a lot more for dodging than for having someone dodge a game you are in. Thus, the trolls still get what they want, which is to annoy you.

Secondly, most people don't troll all the time, only when they don't get something they want. Their goal is exactly to make you dodge so they don't have to take the penalty for it and can requeue again, because they didn't get the role they wanted, or they don't like your firstpicks pick, or whatever. Fulltime trolls are a lot rarer than these "I don't wanna dodge so i'm gonna try to make YOU dodge" guys.

And i agree, LoL definitively needs a pregame report button for those assholes. There is really no reason you need to waste 20 minutes just to be able to report the dickwad.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 07 2014 07:54 GMT
#895
My jungle pages:

Eve: AD marks, armour seals, flat AP glyphs and quints
Eve with MR: Same but with scaling MR glyphs; I only use this against like triple AP comps
Jarvan: AD marks, armour seals, 6 flat CDR/3 MR per level glyphs, attack speed quints
Elise/Nunu: Hybrid pen marks, scaling armour seals, 6 CDR/3 scaling MR glyphs, 1 AP/2 attack speed quints

I just use a normal AP page for Fiddlesticks.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 07 2014 08:05 GMT
#896
flat AD quints are pretty much strictly better on Eve
those splits on some of the blues and quints on elise+nunu are pretty weird, can you elaborate please?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 07 2014 08:16 GMT
#897
rich old white dudes corporations killing esports etc
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 07 2014 08:22 GMT
#898
In other jungle news, Morello says recent jungle direction has been completely wrong.

. In fact, I think our jungle direction has been completely backwards over the last few seasons. That's our bad and I think the results are clear.

To that, returning different ways to succeed at the jungle is key to restoring choice, and making it not a chain-gank fest in lanes. I'll give more details on this in the coming months, but directionally we're totally in agreement.



Thread: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4759361
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 08:38:12
August 07 2014 08:35 GMT
#899
On August 07 2014 17:22 JazzVortical wrote:
In other jungle news, Morello says recent jungle direction has been completely wrong.

Show nested quote +
. In fact, I think our jungle direction has been completely backwards over the last few seasons. That's our bad and I think the results are clear.

To that, returning different ways to succeed at the jungle is key to restoring choice, and making it not a chain-gank fest in lanes. I'll give more details on this in the coming months, but directionally we're totally in agreement.



Thread: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4759361

yeahno I somewhat disagree with Morello and the people talking about "bring back old jungle" are complete idiots who don't remember what old jungle was like. I think Morello's wrong in the sense that there was never "different ways to succeed" in the jungle. There was only ever one way, it just so happens that in the past, the ways to succeed were different than what they are now. Furthermore, jungling is definitely not a "chain-gank fest" nowadays. The "chain-gank fest" days were what? Season 2 with the nonstop tower dives?

Season 1 jungle had probably the least jungle diversity since the jungle was so damn brutal. If you weren't a super sustain jungler you were fucked - if you translate that to modern play, it'd probably be even worse and junglers would be even more marginalized since teams are a lot more coordinated nowadays.

Season 2 jungle had two metas so to speak. One where aoe junglers were insanely strong and one where junglers were pure supports. In the meta where aoe is king, variety is also low since if you don't have good aoe, you simply can't compete.

Season 3 onwards had mostly jungles who have strong early game power or were support-y because farm is finite and teams realize that you simply can't have 4 farmed champions on the team so junglers get marginalized and only the support (ie naturally tanky with large amounts of base utility) or strong early game (Lee Sin, Elise, etc...) junglers get played.

Imo, Riot is never going to be able to create a jungle where any option is viable and if they keep trying to, all they're gonna do is continuously rotate the pool of top tier "viable" junglers. Reverting the jungle and going backwards isn't going to help jungle champion variety, it'll just change the jungler pool to what it was in the past.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 07 2014 08:38 GMT
#900
On August 07 2014 17:05 Scip wrote:
flat AD quints are pretty much strictly better on Eve
those splits on some of the blues and quints on elise+nunu are pretty weird, can you elaborate please?


Pre 4.13, AP quints definitely were better. After, I'm still not sure. I'll have to do some testing; the numbers I've looked at have been quite close. The nunu/elise page I just copied from Saint/Dominate.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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