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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 30 2014 00:35 GMT
#41
Hehehe, they buffed Vayne. ^_^ Along with the rest of the ADCs, but still. Hehe. ^_^
darkness overpowering
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 30 2014 00:48 GMT
#42
this isnt cute
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Miefer
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan229 Posts
July 30 2014 01:07 GMT
#43
clg should field hotshot top bigfat mid chauster sup
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
July 30 2014 01:10 GMT
#44
On July 30 2014 08:29 Ketara wrote:
I'd like to make a correction to part of the patch notes.

Show nested quote +
Everyone get excited for the Lux buff! At early levels this might be a slight reduction to her damage, but as soon as Lux picks up some AP, it'll start scaling much better.


The buff will be a damage increase straight from level 1.

TYTY


Only a sith deals in absolutes.

It's a buff when you have 10 times more ap than your current level. So if you start flask (like you usually do?), it's a nerf from level 3-4 (depending on runes) until your first back. Dorans ring start pushes that breakpoint until lvl 5.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 30 2014 01:18 GMT
#45
On July 30 2014 10:10 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 08:29 Ketara wrote:
I'd like to make a correction to part of the patch notes.

Everyone get excited for the Lux buff! At early levels this might be a slight reduction to her damage, but as soon as Lux picks up some AP, it'll start scaling much better.


The buff will be a damage increase straight from level 1.

TYTY


Only a sith deals in absolutes.

It's a buff when you have 10 times more ap than your current level. So if you start flask (like you usually do?), it's a nerf from level 3-4 (depending on runes) until your first back. Dorans ring start pushes that breakpoint until lvl 5.

Unless you have full retard AP runes.

:O
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 30 2014 01:28 GMT
#46
convienently get to replace my lucian ban with gnar
I come in for the scraps
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 30 2014 01:36 GMT
#47
I don't know if Braum's going to need to be banned anymore. He got FIVE nerfs. At level 6, his ult's knock up was nerfed by 33%, slow nerfed by 33% and slow duration nerfed by like 85%. He'll probably still be pretty annoying, but that's a lot of nerfs.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 01:38:26
July 30 2014 01:37 GMT
#48
On July 30 2014 10:36 GolemMadness wrote:
I don't know if Braum's going to need to be banned anymore. He got FIVE nerfs. At level 6, his ult's knock up was nerfed by 33%, slow nerfed by 33% and slow duration nerfed by like 85%. He'll probably still be pretty annoying, but that's a lot of nerfs.

Meh. I disagree. His passive can do literally no damage and it'll still be good. His ulti is still going to be good since its strong catch and counter-initiate potential. And most importantly, he has an arguably better version of Yasuo's windwall since it's such low cooldown and mobile.

Maybe he won't be a must-ban, but he'll always be very relevant as long as skillshots and projectiles are a thing.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 30 2014 01:46 GMT
#49
On July 30 2014 10:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 10:36 GolemMadness wrote:
I don't know if Braum's going to need to be banned anymore. He got FIVE nerfs. At level 6, his ult's knock up was nerfed by 33%, slow nerfed by 33% and slow duration nerfed by like 85%. He'll probably still be pretty annoying, but that's a lot of nerfs.

Meh. I disagree. His passive can do literally no damage and it'll still be good. His ulti is still going to be good since its strong catch and counter-initiate potential. And most importantly, he has an arguably better version of Yasuo's windwall since it's such low cooldown and mobile.

Maybe he won't be a must-ban, but he'll always be very relevant as long as skillshots and projectiles are a thing.


the main thing i hate about braum is that he can manage a 2v3 fight, with his E up the duo can get out safely and turn around with his Q when his jg comes assist.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 30 2014 01:55 GMT
#50
On July 30 2014 10:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 10:36 GolemMadness wrote:
I don't know if Braum's going to need to be banned anymore. He got FIVE nerfs. At level 6, his ult's knock up was nerfed by 33%, slow nerfed by 33% and slow duration nerfed by like 85%. He'll probably still be pretty annoying, but that's a lot of nerfs.

Meh. I disagree. His passive can do literally no damage and it'll still be good. His ulti is still going to be good since its strong catch and counter-initiate potential. And most importantly, he has an arguably better version of Yasuo's windwall since it's such low cooldown and mobile.

Maybe he won't be a must-ban, but he'll always be very relevant as long as skillshots and projectiles are a thing.


He'll still be good, I just don't know if he'll be a ban every single game champion.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 02:03:48
July 30 2014 01:58 GMT
#51
About to go into a game with a Kennen support.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Except Rito OP

GG NA
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
July 30 2014 02:06 GMT
#52
YA NA IS BROKEYAY
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 30 2014 02:11 GMT
#53
With the big 3 junglers nerfed, I think Nunu could start seeing a lot more play. I've started to play him a bit, and he feels really strong already.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
July 30 2014 02:21 GMT
#54
Elise murder aside, I really like this patch. I hope riot continues with a philosophy of small incremental balance changes rather than the wild swings we've seen recently.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 30 2014 02:27 GMT
#55
On July 30 2014 11:11 GolemMadness wrote:
With the big 3 junglers nerfed, I think Nunu could start seeing a lot more play. I've started to play him a bit, and he feels really strong already.

Nunu already sees a decent amount of play. I think he doesn't see more play because he takes a lot more finesse to play properly.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 30 2014 02:33 GMT
#56
Tbh I don't have an issue with CLGs move, it's riots fault for the regular season being fairly pointless as long as you finish top 6. I hope they get better obviously but even if they fail I still think it's a better decision than playing out a pointless super week.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 02:37:03
July 30 2014 02:36 GMT
#57
On July 30 2014 11:21 Amarok wrote:
Elise murder aside, I really like this patch. I hope riot continues with a philosophy of small incremental balance changes rather than the wild swings we've seen recently.

And reverts on stuff that was overnerfed. One of the few times tbh.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
July 30 2014 02:38 GMT
#58
On July 30 2014 11:36 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 11:21 Amarok wrote:
Elise murder aside, I really like this patch. I hope riot continues with a philosophy of small incremental balance changes rather than the wild swings we've seen recently.

And reverts on stuff that was overnerfed. One of the few times tbh.


Yeah that too. It's a good sign.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
July 30 2014 02:39 GMT
#59
Is CLG getting help from Riot Korea with ID's? If they start with unplaced ID's, they won't get the most out of this training period.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 30 2014 02:43 GMT
#60
On July 30 2014 11:39 lefty wrote:
Is CLG getting help from Riot Korea with ID's? If they start with unplaced ID's, they won't get the most out of this training period.


Considering how big the account boosting scene in KR is I'm sure they can get them under the table.
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