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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 28 2014 11:20 Gahlo wrote: I think every rework needs 2 patches to be decided upon. 1 for people to find out how to play it, the 2nd to figure out how strong it actually is. Its been like... 5? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35136 Posts
So it has! =X Anyway, I haven't seen it in my games. I think it's successful in that Riot wanted to move him to more of a bruiser AP than a barrel slinging mage. He's probably a little overtuned at the moment, but I don't think he's far from the Renekton Bar. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 28 2014 12:19 Gahlo wrote: So it has! =X Anyway, I haven't seen it in my games. I think it's successful in that Riot wanted to move him to more of a bruiser AP than a barrel slinging mage. He's probably a little overtuned at the moment, but I don't think he's far from the Renekton Bar. That all might be true. (I think not really). But, the question you seem to be trying to address is whether he is more or less easy for Riot to balance (aka make Orianna/Caitlyn-like) Gragas. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35136 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On July 28 2014 12:50 Gahlo wrote: Anybody know why Korean ADs are using 4 Attack Speed glyphs? I think they run 11% attack speed on something on ads, been using it and it's pretty good for really aggressive trades in lane I guess. But then ogn midlaners don't run mr/armor and instead go hp/lvl seals and ap/lvl glyphs so who knows lol | ||
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Gahlo
United States35136 Posts
On July 28 2014 12:51 Nos- wrote: I think they run 11% attack speed on something on ads, been using it and it's pretty good for really aggressive trades in lane I guess. But then ogn midlaners don't run mr/armor and instead go hp/lvl seals and ap/lvl glyphs so who knows lol It's 16%, with 4 Glyphs and 3 Quints. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
On July 28 2014 12:51 Nos- wrote: I think they run 11% attack speed on something on ads, been using it and it's pretty good for really aggressive trades in lane I guess. But then ogn midlaners don't run mr/armor and instead go hp/lvl seals and ap/lvl glyphs so who knows lol I think he meant why is it 4 and not 5 or 3 rather than why they are using different glyphs. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On July 28 2014 12:50 Gahlo wrote: Anybody know why Korean ADs are using 4 Attack Speed glyphs? It probably has to do with early auto attack DPS efficiency (before your AS/level scaling kicks in, early AS is really strong for continued DPS) as well as easy rhythm for laning trades. If you can move from CS'ing to being able to zone with your auto attacks faster you can do a better job denying/poking while in lane. Especially compared to someone who is not. Not sure how strong it is relative to power, but since AD's tend to auto all the time in lane, it can't be that much weaker if not stronger. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
http://imgur.com/a/4p028 | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On July 28 2014 13:49 Goumindong wrote: this lag on NA just me or everyone? yea had all 4 of my teammates dc | ||
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platypuses0
United States44 Posts
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las91
United States5080 Posts
Yea same story, I was literally 1v9 because everyone else was dcing/coming back. Not sure what's up. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On July 28 2014 14:01 krndandaman wrote: no replay since I play on a mac, lolreplay doesn't work. also I watched a bit of the video and the riven seems pretty horrible. he also missed out on 1 melee creep in the beginning and allowed you to get 2 melees for free because of how late she came to lane. that is just really really bad. also what runes were you running? I was surprised you took little to no damage from riven's q combo- or she just fucked up auto cancelling because that shit only did like 10% of your health whereas the riven I faced fucking did like 60-70% with just one q combo. I have no problems vs bad rivens but any competent one is hard as fuck and I feel helpless. That's not me in the video, but I believe it's just armour seals negating the damage. He also has 17.5% lifesteal at level 1 from runes and masteries, so quite a lot of sustain. It is a bit easier since the Riven leashed for Elise, but you can see that he does get chunked to around 50% HP from a Riven combo when she hits level 3 first. I think that you should be able to get the replay from op.gg, although I don't know if it works for every region. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35136 Posts
On July 28 2014 13:13 miicah wrote: I think he meant why is it 4 and not 5 or 3 rather than why they are using different glyphs. It is a why any question. I mean, the difference is 2% and I don't really see that being an issue in trading. If it was, AD's would just arms race up to 9 of them. The only thing I can think of that makes sense to me is would be getting around the support boping casters to soften them up for the AD. | ||
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