EPTCDR/lvl is utter shit usually and doesn't bring much.
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
CDR/lvl is utter shit usually and doesn't bring much. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On July 28 2014 06:22 mr_tolkien wrote: You don't need many runes, just the good ones. CDR/lvl is utter shit usually and doesn't bring much. Dunno, I was considering it for Sejuani. Have not decided yet. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On July 28 2014 06:15 krndandaman wrote: yeah I probably positioned a bit off. its been a while since I played nasus vs riven, let alone a competent one. points I learned 1) position better 2) iceborne not fheart 3) ignite dont take ignite take tp wtf you need to tp back to lane with glacial+pots+ward no easy way to base after a rough early game otherwise | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On July 28 2014 06:22 mr_tolkien wrote: You don't need many runes, just the good ones. CDR/lvl is utter shit usually and doesn't bring much. wouldn't CDR/lvl be better relative to other per level runes with the sort of reverse diminishing returns type of thing it has going on where the more CDR you have the more valuable additional CDR becomes? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21665 Posts
On July 28 2014 07:14 chalice wrote: wouldn't CDR/lvl be better relative to other per level runes with the sort of reverse diminishing returns type of thing it has going on where the more CDR you have the more valuable additional CDR becomes? thing is that early level the cdr doesnt matter as much normaly and late game its easy enough to get 40% cdr as a caster (who most often want cdr). The only real exception I know is the new Lucian because there are few good cdr items for adc so he can use scaling onces to hit 40% with Brut & boots. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On July 28 2014 07:23 VayneAuthority wrote: you can believe the guy that got demoted to plat playing nasus or the guy that is going back to d1 with nasus, your choice :^) Can you stop being such a monumental stuck up douche please. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21665 Posts
On July 28 2014 07:23 VayneAuthority wrote: you can believe the guy that got demoted to plat playing nasus or the guy that is going back to d1 with nasus, your choice :^) Can we stop this dick waving contest in general plz. thanks. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 28 2014 07:24 Capped wrote: Can you stop being such a monumental stuck up douche please. once again I didnt start it, the guy is trying to give false info to a player asking for help and I dont appreciate it. iceborn is terrible and you need ignite vs riven. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On July 28 2014 07:18 Gorsameth wrote: thing is that early level the cdr doesnt matter as much normaly and late game its easy enough to get 40% cdr as a caster (who most often want cdr). The only real exception I know is the new Lucian because there are few good cdr items for adc so he can use scaling onces to hit 40% with Brut & boots. yeah, making a custom page for lucian is where i got the idea that cdr/lvl runes might not be terrible even though you should almost invariably rune strictly for the early game. it can't be worse than buying an essence reaver. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21665 Posts
On July 28 2014 07:26 krndandaman wrote: dunno, I would definitely go TP in ranked 5s or something like that but in a game where my jungler never came top I felt like ignite would have helped more in fending off a tower dive/all-in. tping didn't do anything for me since I had no kill threat especially with jungler abandoning top. I have most of them but missing armor quints and health seals. cdr/level I want for new lucian since I actually play him alot. I don't need the cdr early but I do want 40% later. health seals are absurdly expensive. took me fucking forever to get hybrid pen runes. and then I would probably need more pages too or dump one of my champ specific ones. or maybe I should just main a lane already so I don't need all these pages qq TP is to not fall behind if you need to back to heal/buy its not to do with kill pressure. Thats the very argument against Ignite. You have no kill pressure so what do you need ignite for? Its not going to stop him from killing you if he is able to. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 28 2014 07:35 krndandaman wrote: ignite is huge. thats like 10% of your hp in true damage and reduces healing. it prevents him from being hyper aggressive near tower/going for a dive. tp is great when you have a jungler to defend your tower when your tp is on cd (you're going to have to back and return without tp eventually). if you don't, you're going to lose your tower regardless so tp doesn't help much. ignite scaling with levels doesn't help either so you're going to have a hard time making use of that tp as he pushes in further- if you can't stop his split push your tp is pretty much useless. as it is soloq, I don't want to rely on a jungler if possible. you have it right dude, take ignite. as soon as you are 6 and have glacial you have kill potential on riven | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
im trying out cdr blues/quints for 20% cdr at level 1 seems to be pretty good. Obviously against magic damage lane you go standard setup or some really difficult lane that you need the armour quints. Not sure riven qualifies. Getting CDR increases your damage a lot too as well as your q farm rate. getting max cdr is kind of awkward with spirit visage giving only 10% and you want mercs for boots. Even without em tabi and swiftness are both really good on him. If you want gauntlet over frozen heart it becomes a real pain. you can get cdr boots and sell them later for only 300 gold loss though. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On July 28 2014 07:24 Gorsameth wrote: Can we stop this dick waving contest in general plz. thanks. He has a point though, Teut really needs to adjust to the fact that he no longer has a monumental elo penis to shut people up with in discussions. Unlike me. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
to be fair i went from d2 to p1 duoing with marten, playing nasus didnt really cause it, just not jungling caused the drop anyway im getting better at avoiding jungle ganks and things which were the main cause of my losses (when team is behind elsewhere and i just get ganked a lot top) nidalee so far is the hardest lane ive encountered, but its only a counter for about 15 minutes. On July 28 2014 08:12 Scip wrote: He has a point though, Teut really needs to adjust to the fact that he no longer has a monumental elo penis to shut people up with in discussions. Unlike me. you don't participate in discussions though you bitch about people in teamspeak and post nothing. maybe the odd snide remark | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
Here's one video against Riven: | ||
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