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Fildun
Netherlands4118 Posts
On July 14 2014 02:06 Usagi wrote: EUW servers acting up and dropping everyone from the games, play at your own risk. Good Game Riot, can we have stable servers? Isn't this always the motto of EUW? | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On July 14 2014 01:53 Ryuu314 wrote: might just be semantics, but passive and safe are not the same. you can be aggressive while still being very safe. Bingo. I think the "you have to play aggressive to be better" has been severely overstated. If you have no idea what your limits are it helps, but after you've learned your limits and you keep acting dumb, someone who understands the matchup/game better is just going to take a massive dump on you. Example: After you play long enough, it starts to become more and more apparent when you've started to chase too far without having vision. The aggressive move is to continue chasing to get the kill, but it's also stupid as hell. Even if it works, your decision making is stupid and the risk vs the reward return is not the greatest once you've crossed a certain threshold. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21341 Posts
On July 14 2014 04:17 zer0das wrote: Bingo. I think the "you have to play aggressive to be better" has been severely overstated. If you have no idea what your limits are it helps, but after you've learned your limits and you keep acting dumb, someone who understands the matchup/game better is just going to take a massive dump on you. Example: After you play long enough, it starts to become more and more apparent when you've started to chase too far without having vision. The aggressive move is to continue chasing to get the kill, but it's also stupid as hell. Even if it works, your decision making is stupid and the risk vs the reward return is not the greatest once you've crossed a certain threshold. Except you know, the entire discussion was about new champions where you don't know the limits yet. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On July 14 2014 04:35 Gorsameth wrote: Except you know, the entire discussion was about new champions where you don't know the limits yet. Not really, it was about getting better and that was one small aspect of the discussion. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
I feel that in both cases I deserve to be higher in rank and these champions are enabling me to achieve that. idk | ||
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Gahlo
United States35090 Posts
On July 14 2014 13:17 miicah wrote: I'm currently 16-7 on Morg over two accounts (one is 5-0), both in Gold 4/5. She feels very easy to play and even when I get behind early, winning doesn't seem like a problem. What I'm wondering is if Morg is OP or if she just has the tools that allow me to assist my team easier. It feels very similar to the end of S3 where I finally won my promos to Gold using Corki, on something like an 8 win streak. I feel that in both cases I deserve to be higher in rank and these champions are enabling me to achieve that. idk Long semi-hard cc rocks soloque | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
shield ad win fights collect elo and mountain dew doritos sponsorship | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On July 14 2014 14:28 miicah wrote: Actually you can hit dance and cancel the animation with Q so it looks like you 360noscoped. Oh shit, someone commission existor to make a 420 morgana custom skin | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On July 14 2014 13:17 miicah wrote: I'm currently 16-7 on Morg over two accounts (one is 5-0), both in Gold 4/5. She feels very easy to play and even when I get behind early, winning doesn't seem like a problem. What I'm wondering is if Morg is OP or if she just has the tools that allow me to assist my team easier. It feels very similar to the end of S3 where I finally won my promos to Gold using Corki, on something like an 8 win streak. I feel that in both cases I deserve to be higher in rank and these champions are enabling me to achieve that. idk the thing about morgana to me is that bindings allow you to fish for hits, you dont really need to hold them because of black shield. if you play thresh or whatever theres a decent risk that if you miss a hook the other team just all ins you and kills you, with morg black shield + her q range lets you always back off from most supports engage potential - its much harder to punish a missed bind. the duration of the binding means its a fairly prolonged engage no matter what, and its impossible to have a bot lane with no cc/magic damage so her black shield is always effective. so you get this really shitty situation in lane where morg is just randomly throwing out binds, if she hits a single 1 you might die to it, its really crappy to play against. i dont know if this means shes OP but i still ban her 100% of the time that i can. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On July 14 2014 04:20 Alaric wrote: Then it's not aggressive, it's greedy, different. Things can be described with more than one adjective The thing described above is both greedy and aggressive | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
if you compare her to other "ap supports" like zyra, fiddle, annie then yes her damage and maybe also her initiation combo is less powerful but her shield is such a good tool to defend against CC of all sorts that she easily makes up for that. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On July 14 2014 18:31 turdburgler wrote: the thing about morgana to me is that bindings allow you to fish for hits, you dont really need to hold them because of black shield. if you play thresh or whatever theres a decent risk that if you miss a hook the other team just all ins you and kills you, with morg black shield + her q range lets you always back off from most supports engage potential - its much harder to punish a missed bind. the duration of the binding means its a fairly prolonged engage no matter what, and its impossible to have a bot lane with no cc/magic damage so her black shield is always effective. so you get this really shitty situation in lane where morg is just randomly throwing out binds, if she hits a single 1 you might die to it, its really crappy to play against. i dont know if this means shes OP but i still ban her 100% of the time that i can. Honestly, Morgana is not a problem if you play at least one support that is well rounded. Plus, if you are playing Braum/Leona/Thresh you should be able to make up for her strong laning phase later on with your superior initiation and teamfight (less so for Thresh, but he has fewer laning issues against her). The real problem is that Riot has made it so those melee supports have become "standard" and just all-around strong support picks instead of the more well rounded champs like Lulu (Riot has seemed to abandon her here), Nami, and Zyra. Nami and Morgana are like the only support champions that aren't really dicked around by those lanes, and one happens to be very annoying to play against. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
why do prefer your cc long and semi-hard? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35090 Posts
I was born that way. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
I call bullsheet. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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