EPTOn June 11 2014 03:13 Goumindong wrote:
For some reason I wrote shroud instead of cowl, which would be a terrible idea.
For some reason I wrote shroud instead of cowl, which would be a terrible idea.
yeah i saw it. I was just teasing.
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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things. Enough is enough. Let's move along now. -NeoIllusions | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
yeah i saw it. I was just teasing. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On June 11 2014 02:38 Celial wrote: Also, kinda segways into my question: How do I know if a champion is actually great? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xW5zEaK.png) Today's Lesson Brought to You by the Ghost of Carnivorous Sheep. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23386 Posts
On June 11 2014 03:10 obesechicken13 wrote: If you think you'll get wrecked early then cloth +5 or flask might be better than dshield. Dshield heals for 1.2/s and blocks 8 per auto and gives 80 hp, but that's still probably less hp than the other 2. I tried cloth vs Kayle as Garen yesterday. Seemed to work fairly well. I died once and then won lane 1v1 hard. In a 1v1 Garen's E feels worse than auto attacking when E hasn't been leveled up. It might be better to level Q until laning is over or start leveling it at 5, so you have level 5 E at level 9. its easier to think of it as 72 hp/minute, so a pot every 2 minutes. Q ranks give 25 damage a rank and 0.25 s silence duration, both are neglible. The only good thing is +0.75s movement speed per rank, but closing the gap is useless if you arent going to use E anyway. E's total AD ratio goes up per rank along with base damage, so its a dramtic increase. Also you can E while moving and you can't auto while moving. It's true garens E is pretty bad until level 7ish which is why you have to farm usually. You save Q for kayles Q anyways. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On June 11 2014 03:10 obesechicken13 wrote: If you think you'll get wrecked early then cloth +5 or flask might be better than dshield. Dshield heals for 1.2/s and blocks 8 per auto and gives 80 hp, but that's still probably less hp than the other 2. I tried cloth vs Kayle as Garen yesterday. Seemed to work fairly well. I died once and then won lane 1v1 hard. In a 1v1 Garen's E feels worse than auto attacking when E hasn't been leveled up. It might be better to level Q until laning is over or start leveling it at 5, so you have level 5 E at level 9. The 8 damage/auto stacks up. It also reduces damage the same amount regardless of whether teemo levels e or a first and regardless of whether he goes bruiser or AP. Unlike Kayle who will zone and shove with her e then back off letting you have a grace period, teemo is going to zone all the time and because of this you need the dr from shield in order to be effective. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 11 2014 01:58 Fusilero wrote: Next LCS on 4.9, zed and shen disabled. So rango and braum will now be available. looking forward to seeing what kind of impact Rengar and Braum will have. Braum supposed to be pretty strong. Rengar is OP as fuck in solo queue. Let's see how well that translates to pro play. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23386 Posts
On June 11 2014 03:23 Goumindong wrote: The 8 damage/auto stacks up. It also reduces damage the same amount regardless of whether teemo levels e or a first and regardless of whether he goes bruiser or AP. Unlike Kayle who will zone and shove with her e then back off letting you have a grace period, teemo is going to zone all the time and because of this you need the dr from shield in order to be effective. and the 15 armour from cloth doesnt? cloth+5 is superior to dorans shield its just more spent on consumables and doesnt really build into anything useful kayle is simply an easier lane than teemo in terms of surviving the harass, it gives you more flexibility on what to build, not less. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 11 2014 03:39 Slayer91 wrote: and the 15 armour from cloth doesnt? cloth+5 is superior to dorans shield its just more spent on consumables and doesnt really build into anything useful kayle is simply an easier lane than teemo in terms of surviving the harass, it gives you more flexibility on what to build, not less. Tabi is pretty useful. I think the 10%DR works vs on hit damage. Nvm it doesn't. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23386 Posts
you rush banshees straight after, you can try going banshees without any boots if you think its a lost cause. hexdrinker can be worth but im not sure. ive had lots of success running swiftness because it allows you to just force an allin straight from brush with ignite ult to finish them off because theres no way they can outrun you. the timing of teemo blind is important though. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 11 2014 03:48 Sufficiency wrote: Does it also reduce Kayle's E then? Not from the passive. Sorry. Hexdrinker feels pretty awesome against some champs but the duels never get close enough against Kayle for it to proc in lane. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 11 2014 03:56 739 wrote: Why is Zed banned ? Look at the vid i posted last page. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Are swifties making that big of an impact that they're really worth building somewhat early, and especially above mercs? I thought a slowed Hecarim lost bonus AD but he actually just loses the bonus from his MS, it can't go negative, so swifties seem pretty meh on him (esp. once you get Gauntlet since you have your own slow to keep people near). Mobis are out of the question for me because E provides you with a pretty big bonus, add in ghost and +2 or +5 doesn't matter anymore (plus you're gonna initiate with ult anyway) and being reduced to boots1 while in fights is meh by itself. I end up finishing boots after Gauntlet quite often, because shroud is too shitty to keep as is (seriously Riot wtf half the cost is the goddamn mana, you dun goofed) and once you have sheen and shroud might as well finish Gauntlet. Or after Cowl if their magic damage is higher. Maybe I should just buy Sheen first to be more threatening (and jungle faster, so more HP, more levels, more golz, yadda-yadda), finish boots (usually mercs), and then go toward Cowl or Gauntlet depending on what's needed. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 11 2014 02:47 mr_tolkien wrote: Singed actually has a quite a good laning phase against Teemo ah ah ah. Just take Ghost/Ignite and all-in the fucker lvl2. If you flip him the lane is over :D If you don't well you screwed up somewhere or at least he burnt flash and will therefore be very easily gankable. You should just cry for jungle ganks tbh. you'll never get close to a half way decent teemo as any melee without a gapcloser. singed especially if he has even a tiny brain On June 11 2014 04:09 Alaric wrote: Try reading the previous page. Are swifties making that big of an impact that they're really worth building somewhat early, and especially above mercs? I thought a slowed Hecarim lost bonus AD but he actually just loses the bonus from his MS, it can't go negative, so swifties seem pretty meh on him (esp. once you get Gauntlet since you have your own slow to keep people near). Mobis are out of the question for me because E provides you with a pretty big bonus, add in ghost and +2 or +5 doesn't matter anymore (plus you're gonna initiate with ult anyway) and being reduced to boots1 while in fights is meh by itself. I end up finishing boots after Gauntlet quite often, because shroud is too shitty to keep as is (seriously Riot wtf half the cost is the goddamn mana, you dun goofed) and once you have sheen and shroud might as well finish Gauntlet. Or after Cowl if their magic damage is higher. Maybe I should just buy Sheen first to be more threatening (and jungle faster, so more HP, more levels, more golz, yadda-yadda), finish boots (usually mercs), and then go toward Cowl or Gauntlet depending on what's needed. When people get mobos on hecarim i laugh hard, its such a trash buy its hilarious. you are almost 100% of the time, barring a team with all slows better off with mercs/tabis. My usual build with Hecarim is like, SS->Lizard ->Belt->Sheen then whatever i need after that. You need the tankiness from the giants belt but since E procs onhit sheen trucks fools. If youre getting really fed triforce is way better than gauntlet and then you just build fh/spirit visage from there and loltruck any kinda squishy with your copterspin Q | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 11 2014 04:44 obesechicken13 wrote: Liquid Taiga on Nightblue's stream. Does TL have a liquid team for LoL? no. and it'll never happen. stop the tease. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 11 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote: no. and it'll never happen. stop the tease. Hehehe | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On June 11 2014 04:44 obesechicken13 wrote: Liquid Taiga on Nightblue's stream. Does TL have a liquid team for LoL? Probably liquid'inori some lomoQ jungler that goes by that name. | ||
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