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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 17:00 GMT
#461
On June 06 2014 01:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
These potential changes just reinforce my theory that the Riot balance team makes decisions based on playing against each other and LCS highlight reels.

This BT change is absolutely stupid. Having a pseudo-shield is just going to make melee characters who buy it annoyingly tanky and make it so fights are won basically based off which team has more BT's and has them more charged up. Adding a bunch of basically free hp to probably 2 or even 3 champs on each team is dumb, and Riot should have already learned that from the problems with Yasuo's shield, or when they nerfed runic bulwark into the ground.

We have no idea what the numbers are or the final cost. I'd still think the extra auto attack from Hydra is too good to pass up on melee's.

I think it would be cooler if it was an item active that stacked, and could heal yourself for a % of your current HP once you get it stacked enough. Would make more sense, in regards to the item name. BT, stores up blood, heals upon blood stacks reached, or upon reaching max stacks, has an active that doubles lifesteal for a few seconds. just some cool ideas that build upon the idea of a "blood thirster" item.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 17:01:28
June 05 2014 17:00 GMT
#462
On June 06 2014 01:58 krndandaman wrote:
lol

I want to call the doran change a buff but it's more like riot saying "oops we fucked up trying to change it last time and realized every adc and his mother gets doran's still"

changes seem ok, doesn't seem they finalized anything yet though.


they weren't trying to remove dorans, the problem was by making the lifesteal static they made BT the only option for sustain. They did fuck up but for a different reason
Carrilord has arrived.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#463
--- Nuked ---
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 17:05 GMT
#464
On June 06 2014 02:02 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 02:00 Slusher wrote:
On June 06 2014 01:58 krndandaman wrote:
lol

I want to call the doran change a buff but it's more like riot saying "oops we fucked up trying to change it last time and realized every adc and his mother gets doran's still"

changes seem ok, doesn't seem they finalized anything yet though.


they weren't trying to remove dorans, the problem was by making the lifesteal static they made BT the only option for sustain.


they were trying to make other starting items an option, which ultimately didn't pan out.
and yeah that was the problem. even with nerfed sustain, it still gave sustain and we all know how important sustain is in botlane.

Doesn't help that they nerfed LS quints, making Dorans blade even more necessary.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 05 2014 17:11 GMT
#465
Man these changes will make Ashe a god...


+ Show Spoiler +
if the opposing team has 0 hard engage
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 05 2014 17:16 GMT
#466
Suff did you ever do that teleport analysis?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
June 05 2014 17:16 GMT
#467
I have long waited for the uprising of non-BT first ADC's, I want my old Tristana back. I wonder how Graves will fare after this, he was just getting popular again and this might really hurt him, then again a shield likely works better on him than most ranged ADCs with the short range and free resists.
I got nothin'...
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 05 2014 17:18 GMT
#468
I want to see the proposed BT change on Fiora.

Grabs BT, ults at start of fight while she still has full health, comes out of ult with full shield.

Really seems like a neat passive to me.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 17:20:28
June 05 2014 17:19 GMT
#469
pretty sure dblade 3% lifesteal was in the game up until (same patch iirc) boots start only was nerfed out of the game.

with Hydra being the same AD I don't feel like it would be optimal ever.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 17:19 GMT
#470
On June 06 2014 02:18 Ketara wrote:
I want to see the proposed BT change on Fiora.

Grabs BT, ults at start of fight while she still has full health, comes out of ult with full shield.

Really seems like a neat passive to me.

But you can play Yasuo instead.

+ Show Spoiler +
unless, that was the joke to begin with?
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 05 2014 17:20 GMT
#471
On June 06 2014 02:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 02:18 Ketara wrote:
I want to see the proposed BT change on Fiora.

Grabs BT, ults at start of fight while she still has full health, comes out of ult with full shield.

Really seems like a neat passive to me.

But you can play Yasuo instead.

+ Show Spoiler +
unless, that was the joke to begin with?


Half joke about Yasuo, half joke about Fiora. Poor Fiora.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 05 2014 17:21 GMT
#472
On June 06 2014 02:19 Slusher wrote:
pretty sure dblade 3% lifesteal was in the game up until (same patch iirc) boots start only was nerfed out of the game.

with Hydra being the same AD I don't feel like it would be optimal ever.

when was boots start ever nerfed out?
still the best opening on a few mid lanes
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 05 2014 17:22 GMT
#473
ironically fiora dumpsters yasuo in lane and is a pretty reliable counter to him
I come in for the scraps
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 17:28:47
June 05 2014 17:24 GMT
#474
On June 06 2014 02:21 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 02:19 Slusher wrote:
pretty sure dblade 3% lifesteal was in the game up until (same patch iirc) boots start only was nerfed out of the game.

with Hydra being the same AD I don't feel like it would be optimal ever.

when was boots start ever nerfed out?
still the best opening on a few mid lanes


I guess the nerf where 4 of 5 people didn't start boots in almost every game anymore is a better way to word it
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 18:43 GMT
#475
On June 06 2014 02:21 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 02:19 Slusher wrote:
pretty sure dblade 3% lifesteal was in the game up until (same patch iirc) boots start only was nerfed out of the game.

with Hydra being the same AD I don't feel like it would be optimal ever.

when was boots start ever nerfed out?
still the best opening on a few mid lanes

nerfed when they increased everyone's base ms by 25, and removed 25 ms from boots.
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 18:46:42
June 05 2014 18:44 GMT
#476
Game changer kids. Here's something to discuss (sry Gahlo)

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/06/update-to-summoners-rift-headed-to-pbe.html



Edit: Hot damn that's pretty sexy.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 18:46 GMT
#477
On June 06 2014 03:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Game changer kids. Here's something to discuss (sry Gahlo)

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/06/update-to-summoners-rift-headed-to-pbe.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_N4WpqH5o

i feel like the old champions who haven't gotten a VU yet will look really out of place.

the map looks fucking sexy as hell, but it feels like a huge fucking jump in artistic style.
The blue minions are the best, they look so awesome with their hammers.
liftlift > tsm
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
June 05 2014 18:46 GMT
#478
On June 06 2014 03:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Game changer kids. Here's something to discuss (sry Gahlo)

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/06/update-to-summoners-rift-headed-to-pbe.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_N4WpqH5o

Edit: Hot damn that's pretty sexy.


~Get the DotA look!~
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 05 2014 18:48 GMT
#479
On June 06 2014 03:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Game changer kids. Here's something to discuss (sry Gahlo)

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/06/update-to-summoners-rift-headed-to-pbe.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_N4WpqH5o

Edit: Hot damn that's pretty sexy.

I think the camp spawns on sight will stop lee and mummy from spidermaning around the jungle?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
June 05 2014 18:52 GMT
#480
That map looks sweet. Looking forward to it.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
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