• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:35
CEST 21:35
KST 04:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow7[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30
Community News
MaNa leaves Team Liquid16$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy5GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled
Tourneys
SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Leta's ASL Ro24 Review [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow The Korean Terminology Thread ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The China Politics Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2376 users

[Patch 4.9] RIP Kha'Zix General Discussion - Page 24

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 117 Next
Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 17:00 GMT
#461
On June 06 2014 01:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
These potential changes just reinforce my theory that the Riot balance team makes decisions based on playing against each other and LCS highlight reels.

This BT change is absolutely stupid. Having a pseudo-shield is just going to make melee characters who buy it annoyingly tanky and make it so fights are won basically based off which team has more BT's and has them more charged up. Adding a bunch of basically free hp to probably 2 or even 3 champs on each team is dumb, and Riot should have already learned that from the problems with Yasuo's shield, or when they nerfed runic bulwark into the ground.

We have no idea what the numbers are or the final cost. I'd still think the extra auto attack from Hydra is too good to pass up on melee's.

I think it would be cooler if it was an item active that stacked, and could heal yourself for a % of your current HP once you get it stacked enough. Would make more sense, in regards to the item name. BT, stores up blood, heals upon blood stacks reached, or upon reaching max stacks, has an active that doubles lifesteal for a few seconds. just some cool ideas that build upon the idea of a "blood thirster" item.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 17:01:28
June 05 2014 17:00 GMT
#462
On June 06 2014 01:58 krndandaman wrote:
lol

I want to call the doran change a buff but it's more like riot saying "oops we fucked up trying to change it last time and realized every adc and his mother gets doran's still"

changes seem ok, doesn't seem they finalized anything yet though.


they weren't trying to remove dorans, the problem was by making the lifesteal static they made BT the only option for sustain. They did fuck up but for a different reason
Carrilord has arrived.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#463
--- Nuked ---
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 17:05 GMT
#464
On June 06 2014 02:02 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 02:00 Slusher wrote:
On June 06 2014 01:58 krndandaman wrote:
lol

I want to call the doran change a buff but it's more like riot saying "oops we fucked up trying to change it last time and realized every adc and his mother gets doran's still"

changes seem ok, doesn't seem they finalized anything yet though.


they weren't trying to remove dorans, the problem was by making the lifesteal static they made BT the only option for sustain.


they were trying to make other starting items an option, which ultimately didn't pan out.
and yeah that was the problem. even with nerfed sustain, it still gave sustain and we all know how important sustain is in botlane.

Doesn't help that they nerfed LS quints, making Dorans blade even more necessary.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 05 2014 17:11 GMT
#465
Man these changes will make Ashe a god...


+ Show Spoiler +
if the opposing team has 0 hard engage
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 05 2014 17:16 GMT
#466
Suff did you ever do that teleport analysis?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
June 05 2014 17:16 GMT
#467
I have long waited for the uprising of non-BT first ADC's, I want my old Tristana back. I wonder how Graves will fare after this, he was just getting popular again and this might really hurt him, then again a shield likely works better on him than most ranged ADCs with the short range and free resists.
I got nothin'...
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 05 2014 17:18 GMT
#468
I want to see the proposed BT change on Fiora.

Grabs BT, ults at start of fight while she still has full health, comes out of ult with full shield.

Really seems like a neat passive to me.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 17:20:28
June 05 2014 17:19 GMT
#469
pretty sure dblade 3% lifesteal was in the game up until (same patch iirc) boots start only was nerfed out of the game.

with Hydra being the same AD I don't feel like it would be optimal ever.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 17:19 GMT
#470
On June 06 2014 02:18 Ketara wrote:
I want to see the proposed BT change on Fiora.

Grabs BT, ults at start of fight while she still has full health, comes out of ult with full shield.

Really seems like a neat passive to me.

But you can play Yasuo instead.

+ Show Spoiler +
unless, that was the joke to begin with?
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 05 2014 17:20 GMT
#471
On June 06 2014 02:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 02:18 Ketara wrote:
I want to see the proposed BT change on Fiora.

Grabs BT, ults at start of fight while she still has full health, comes out of ult with full shield.

Really seems like a neat passive to me.

But you can play Yasuo instead.

+ Show Spoiler +
unless, that was the joke to begin with?


Half joke about Yasuo, half joke about Fiora. Poor Fiora.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 05 2014 17:21 GMT
#472
On June 06 2014 02:19 Slusher wrote:
pretty sure dblade 3% lifesteal was in the game up until (same patch iirc) boots start only was nerfed out of the game.

with Hydra being the same AD I don't feel like it would be optimal ever.

when was boots start ever nerfed out?
still the best opening on a few mid lanes
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 05 2014 17:22 GMT
#473
ironically fiora dumpsters yasuo in lane and is a pretty reliable counter to him
I come in for the scraps
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 17:28:47
June 05 2014 17:24 GMT
#474
On June 06 2014 02:21 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 02:19 Slusher wrote:
pretty sure dblade 3% lifesteal was in the game up until (same patch iirc) boots start only was nerfed out of the game.

with Hydra being the same AD I don't feel like it would be optimal ever.

when was boots start ever nerfed out?
still the best opening on a few mid lanes


I guess the nerf where 4 of 5 people didn't start boots in almost every game anymore is a better way to word it
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 18:43 GMT
#475
On June 06 2014 02:21 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 02:19 Slusher wrote:
pretty sure dblade 3% lifesteal was in the game up until (same patch iirc) boots start only was nerfed out of the game.

with Hydra being the same AD I don't feel like it would be optimal ever.

when was boots start ever nerfed out?
still the best opening on a few mid lanes

nerfed when they increased everyone's base ms by 25, and removed 25 ms from boots.
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 18:46:42
June 05 2014 18:44 GMT
#476
Game changer kids. Here's something to discuss (sry Gahlo)

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/06/update-to-summoners-rift-headed-to-pbe.html



Edit: Hot damn that's pretty sexy.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2014 18:46 GMT
#477
On June 06 2014 03:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Game changer kids. Here's something to discuss (sry Gahlo)

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/06/update-to-summoners-rift-headed-to-pbe.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_N4WpqH5o

i feel like the old champions who haven't gotten a VU yet will look really out of place.

the map looks fucking sexy as hell, but it feels like a huge fucking jump in artistic style.
The blue minions are the best, they look so awesome with their hammers.
liftlift > tsm
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
June 05 2014 18:46 GMT
#478
On June 06 2014 03:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Game changer kids. Here's something to discuss (sry Gahlo)

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/06/update-to-summoners-rift-headed-to-pbe.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_N4WpqH5o

Edit: Hot damn that's pretty sexy.


~Get the DotA look!~
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 05 2014 18:48 GMT
#479
On June 06 2014 03:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Game changer kids. Here's something to discuss (sry Gahlo)

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/06/update-to-summoners-rift-headed-to-pbe.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_N4WpqH5o

Edit: Hot damn that's pretty sexy.

I think the camp spawns on sight will stop lee and mummy from spidermaning around the jungle?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
June 05 2014 18:52 GMT
#480
That map looks sweet. Looking forward to it.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 117 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#47
RotterdaM1120
IndyStarCraft 264
SteadfastSC225
BRAT_OK 159
ZombieGrub97
EnkiAlexander 35
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1120
TKL 419
IndyStarCraft 277
SteadfastSC 232
BRAT_OK 152
ProTech129
UpATreeSC 122
ZombieGrub93
Hui .48
EmSc Tv 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4189
Sea 3861
Mini 848
Britney 650
ggaemo 195
Dewaltoss 188
firebathero 145
Rock 23
Dota 2
420jenkins351
BananaSlamJamma146
capcasts59
canceldota26
Counter-Strike
fl0m5281
pashabiceps2434
adren_tv23
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu395
Other Games
Grubby3095
summit1g2929
Liquid`RaSZi1944
FrodaN1690
qojqva959
Beastyqt676
Mlord510
C9.Mang0175
ArmadaUGS155
Sick113
QueenE74
Trikslyr57
Mew2King26
MindelVK7
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL155
StarCraft 2
angryscii 24
EmSc Tv 11
EmSc2Tv 11
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 181
• Reevou 4
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 18
• Michael_bg 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1340
Other Games
• Scarra1070
• imaqtpie938
• Shiphtur285
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 25m
Afreeca Starleague
14h 25m
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
14h 25m
GSL
16h 25m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 4h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 13h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
IPSL
4 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL
5 days
IPSL
5 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.