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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 05 2014 16:05 GMT
#441
On June 06 2014 01:03 TheYango wrote:
Or you just take away the all-rounder items from everyone else because why is "one-item-gives-you-everything" good for any role?

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 01:01 YouGotNothin wrote:
This thread gets really hard to follow when there are simultaneous discussions on strategy, e-sports drama, and then the worst (which seems to be happening a lot recently): highschool-level infighting between people about nothing in particular, mostly hurt egos or something I dunno.

It's cuz Roffles isn't around to shut people down.

#freeroffles
Bronze player stuck in platinum
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
June 05 2014 16:05 GMT
#442
On June 06 2014 00:33 TheYango wrote:
The other thing I forgot about melees is that most physical active on-hits apply lifesteal, even on the bonus damage portion (hi Rengar).

The lifesteal on DBlade actually helps Riven quite a lot as well. You can just go double DBlade into Cleaver and have a pretty good power spike while surviving laning phase.
The legend of Darien lives on
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 05 2014 16:06 GMT
#443
See that's why you ain't allowed to talk about putting champs in the gutter when you like the prospect of Riven doing well.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 05 2014 16:10 GMT
#444
On June 06 2014 01:03 TheYango wrote:
Or you just take away the all-rounder items from everyone else because why is "one-item-gives-you-everything" good for any role?

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 01:01 YouGotNothin wrote:
This thread gets really hard to follow when there are simultaneous discussions on strategy, e-sports drama, and then the worst (which seems to be happening a lot recently): highschool-level infighting between people about nothing in particular, mostly hurt egos or something I dunno.

It's cuz Roffles isn't around to shut people down.

Roffles had faith I might become his successor
let's see if I can make that jump
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 05 2014 16:17 GMT
#445
On June 06 2014 01:06 Alaric wrote:
See that's why you ain't allowed to talk about putting champs in the gutter when you like the prospect of Riven doing well.

You are just mad. I bet you're Ionian.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
June 05 2014 16:35 GMT
#446
On June 05 2014 15:15 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 15:14 Fusilero wrote:
On June 05 2014 15:04 Gahlo wrote:
On June 05 2014 15:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
if all those changes go through as they are, ashe is going to be a fucking god.

About time though. When was the last time she was a contested pick, season 1?

One thing I hate about that post is how they list out 1st buy options, almost insinuateing 3blade IE, 1bladeBT, and 1bladeBork as being competitive options. One of those costs SIGNIFICANTLY more gold than the others.

S3 when ashe/zyra was the go to lane for teams that had a bot lane because you're obliged to have a bot lane

Did anybody run that outside of C9 with any real frequency? I don't remember it being a super popular thing.

I think I remember it being ran in OGN a little bit. In competitive that was about it, but I remember in Solo queue I would lock in Ashe, and instantly someone would ask if I wanted them to support Zyra. It was a good time.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 16:49:49
June 05 2014 16:38 GMT
#447
I said 2-3 GDs ago if IE first was ever going to come back it would take lifesteal on dblades, 2 dblade + Zerks into IE could easily become a thing again especially on 600+, but probly even on others, I honesty don't even thing Twitch and Lucian need big nerfs with these changes. (although buffed daggers might = small twitch build path buffs.

pretty sure Ashe never saw a single pick on OGN. they wouldn't even play Jinx when Jinx was bonkers because of poor escape.

just check gamepedia 0 picks in champions summer which was her popular period (fuck that website got so slow when it got bought out)
Carrilord has arrived.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 05 2014 16:45 GMT
#448
These potential changes just reinforce my theory that the Riot balance team makes decisions based on playing against each other and LCS highlight reels.

This BT change is absolutely stupid. Having a pseudo-shield is just going to make melee characters who buy it annoyingly tanky and make it so fights are won basically based off which team has more BT's and has them more charged up. Adding a bunch of basically free hp to probably 2 or even 3 champs on each team is dumb, and Riot should have already learned that from the problems with Yasuo's shield, or when they nerfed runic bulwark into the ground.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 05 2014 16:49 GMT
#449
On June 06 2014 01:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
These potential changes just reinforce my theory that the Riot balance team makes decisions based on playing against each other and LCS highlight reels.

This BT change is absolutely stupid. Having a pseudo-shield is just going to make melee characters who buy it annoyingly tanky and make it so fights are won basically based off which team has more BT's and has them more charged up. Adding a bunch of basically free hp to probably 2 or even 3 champs on each team is dumb, and Riot should have already learned that from the problems with Yasuo's shield, or when they nerfed runic bulwark into the ground.


I want to stream a video of me audibly sighing at this point, but Scip has taught me that is a bad idea.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23384 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 16:52:58
June 05 2014 16:50 GMT
#450
On June 06 2014 01:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
These potential changes just reinforce my theory that the Riot balance team makes decisions based on playing against each other and LCS highlight reels.

This BT change is absolutely stupid. Having a pseudo-shield is just going to make melee characters who buy it annoyingly tanky and make it so fights are won basically based off which team has more BT's and has them more charged up. Adding a bunch of basically free hp to probably 2 or even 3 champs on each team is dumb, and Riot should have already learned that from the problems with Yasuo's shield, or when they nerfed runic bulwark into the ground.


your post reinforces my theory that people dont actually think about the changes properly and just look for a way to whine about riot ruining the game


every AD buys BT and it means playing champs without good ad ratios (with the exception maybe of kow maw nami atm it seems) becomes pretty bad because they finish BT before you get IE, get max stacks and chunk you from lane so everyone just goes BT/Shiv/LW every single game.
its really stuipd and limits diversity and increases snowballing early.

like ZERO melee champs buy BT atm anyway, hydra is almost exclusviely superior
"fights being won based on which team has more BTs" this assumption is completely based on BT being overpowered and also completely based on poke damage not existing at all especially when champs who buy BTs typically have weaker poke than most AP champs
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11980 Posts
June 05 2014 16:51 GMT
#451
Highly depends on how strong that shield is though. BT did get nerfed by a bunch of AD and some lifesteal too. So if it is something like a max 200hp shield, this might very well be an overall nerf to BT. Because depending on numbers all this means is that you basically add a ruby crystal to a BT. Which is nice i guess, but remember how much the rest of it got nerfed.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 05 2014 16:51 GMT
#452
On June 06 2014 01:49 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 01:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
These potential changes just reinforce my theory that the Riot balance team makes decisions based on playing against each other and LCS highlight reels.

This BT change is absolutely stupid. Having a pseudo-shield is just going to make melee characters who buy it annoyingly tanky and make it so fights are won basically based off which team has more BT's and has them more charged up. Adding a bunch of basically free hp to probably 2 or even 3 champs on each team is dumb, and Riot should have already learned that from the problems with Yasuo's shield, or when they nerfed runic bulwark into the ground.


I want to stream a video of me audibly sighing at this point, but Scip has taught me that is a bad idea.

I didn't, moonbear did
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23384 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 16:52:48
June 05 2014 16:52 GMT
#453
oops
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 05 2014 16:52 GMT
#454
On June 06 2014 01:49 Ketara wrote:
I want to stream a video of me audibly sighing at this point, but Scip has taught me that is a bad idea.

Someone might call you one of the ugliest people they've ever seen.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 05 2014 16:55 GMT
#455
On June 06 2014 01:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 01:49 Ketara wrote:
I want to stream a video of me audibly sighing at this point, but Scip has taught me that is a bad idea.

Someone might call you one of the ugliest people they've ever seen.


Please. I look flawless.

Here's my picture:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 05 2014 16:55 GMT
#456
the real story here is the hidden SoO buff
Carrilord has arrived.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 16:57:42
June 05 2014 16:57 GMT
#457
On June 06 2014 01:55 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 01:52 TheYango wrote:
On June 06 2014 01:49 Ketara wrote:
I want to stream a video of me audibly sighing at this point, but Scip has taught me that is a bad idea.

Someone might call you one of the ugliest people they've ever seen.


Please. I look flawless.

Here's my picture:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w355NPnCMSM


You motherfucker.

+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
SEE I'M JOKING
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 05 2014 16:58 GMT
#458
On June 06 2014 01:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 01:49 Ketara wrote:
I want to stream a video of me audibly sighing at this point, but Scip has taught me that is a bad idea.

Someone might call you one of the ugliest people they've ever seen.

it's ok, they will get warned too so the balance will be maintained
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 05 2014 16:58 GMT
#459
On June 06 2014 01:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
These potential changes just reinforce my theory that the Riot balance team makes decisions based on playing against each other and LCS highlight reels.

This BT change is absolutely stupid. Having a pseudo-shield is just going to make melee characters who buy it annoyingly tanky and make it so fights are won basically based off which team has more BT's and has them more charged up. Adding a bunch of basically free hp to probably 2 or even 3 champs on each team is dumb, and Riot should have already learned that from the problems with Yasuo's shield, or when they nerfed runic bulwark into the ground.

I feel like melees running wild with a new BT shield is a nonexistent issue since I along with other people have mentioned no one really buys BT anyways if they're melee, it's just bork.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 05 2014 16:58 GMT
#460
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