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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 01 2014 15:35 Gahlo wrote: Honest question. Has anybody dealt with a worse ranking system than mmr/tiers? Seeding for IL High School Wrestling used to be 100% record based. It provided a disincentive to actually seek out difficult matches. Now they (kinda) fixed it. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On June 01 2014 15:35 Gahlo wrote: Honest question. Has anybody dealt with a worse ranking system than mmr/tiers? Completely random matchmaking in ranked is worse by a long-shot imo, primarily because it's hardly a system at all | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On June 01 2014 16:15 TheHumanSensation wrote: Completely random matchmaking in ranked is worse by a long-shot imo, primarily because it's hardly a system at all Why do you reply to flame-bait ? | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On June 01 2014 14:21 Nemireck wrote: It would have an effect on some of your promo series, but in the long run the ladder would still work fine. If your goal is simply to climb the ranked ladder then, sure, in SoloQ blue-side advantage not so much an issue as a curiosity. However, if your goal is to play a game where each team is given equal conditions to win, whether you are randomly placed on Blue or Purple, then it's of interest to be aware of where that challenge isn't being met, and offer solutions. Actually if your goal is to climb the ladder you should dodge games on purple side. Dodging does not have an MMR penalty, so taking the time hit in order to only play blue side games is net MMR positive. In that, your equilibrium MMR will be higher if you dodge purple side games than if you do not. How much higher I don't know, but it will be higher. We can make some guesses based on what we know about other systems. In chess, if using the logistic distribution assumption, it takes about 34.8 ELO to give a 55% expected win rate for the higher player. If we assume this is roughly the expectation for the difference in team ELO then dodging every purple side game would be worth about 174 MMR. Edit: That is, your real MMR would have to be 174 points lower than your listed MMR before you would lose <50% of games at that listed MMR, were you playing only blue side games, and our assumption about the effect of MMR were correct. Note that for a couple of reasons this is a very loose calculation. Which looks to be about enough to raise a you one or two divisions (I.E. plat 4 to plat 2). | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 01 2014 17:00 GolemMadness wrote: What if some people happen to do better on purple side? Then this isn't a viable way for them to get higher mmr? Not sure where you are aiming with this question? | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On June 01 2014 17:00 GolemMadness wrote: What if some people happen to do better on purple side? If the effect is large enough to counteract the effect of the rest of their team they should dodge blue side games. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On June 01 2014 17:02 Scip wrote: Then this isn't a viable way for them to get higher mmr? Not sure where you are aiming with this question? It's not like people are keeping track of their records on blue or purple side. In order for this to be a guaranteed way to gain MMR, you'd need to first accumulate the statistics for a huge amount of your own games. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 01 2014 17:50 GolemMadness wrote: It's not like people are keeping track of their records on blue or purple side. In order for this to be a guaranteed way to gain MMR, you'd need to first accumulate the statistics for a huge amount of your own games. Why ask a question you already know the answer to then | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On June 01 2014 18:14 Scip wrote: Why ask a question you already know the answer to then It's a rhetorical question...? | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
It is a rhetorical question that amounts to nothing more than a simple statement of fact with narrow and uninteresting implications. It has no artistic value and no comedic effect. Due to it's simpleness it is neither impressive nor thought-provoking. 2/10 wouldn't ask again | ||
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Simberto
Germany11982 Posts
On June 01 2014 13:36 sob3k wrote: I would hazard a guess that they aren't addressing this issue because it will be addressed in the SR graphic overhaul (probably with flipped cameras as everyone has mention). The only reason I can think of them not using flipped cams is that the backsides of the current SR elements that are hidden currently aren't up to par. That shouldn't actually be a problem, considering they could just take the assets from across the map. So something like the southern side of the blue side botlane trees for the northern side of the purple toplane trees when the map is swapped. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23385 Posts
On June 01 2014 15:35 Gahlo wrote: Honest question. Has anybody dealt with a worse ranking system than mmr/tiers? there are like zero flaws wtf? other than that you're stuck in elo hell and all the worse players are above you of course | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 On June 01 2014 13:18 Scip wrote: theoretically you can dodge every time you get purple side personally I think that having the option of flipping the map so that you can see your base in the bottom left whether you are purple or blue is a fantastic idea, if it is at all achievable (I know nothing about that) Can't, not as of right now at least. Riot explained once that the map's basically cardboard, the textures, lightning, etc. aren't optimised to be viewed "from behind" (although it still seems to look decent when you watch montages like Shake's that play with the camp) and I guess there's no resources/plans to improve that for now. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On June 01 2014 02:42 Celial wrote: some players - some koreans, complete gambit back then - play only in windowed mode with something like 640x480. whats up with that? im pretty sure it wasnt a widescreen resolution. It's because Dyrus used to do it back when he had a shitty computer and streamed from Hawaii. There have been interviews which explicitly stated this. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
Because it wasn't. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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