EPTOn May 30 2014 16:05 sob3k wrote:
is twitch all fucked up for anyone else or just me?
is twitch all fucked up for anyone else or just me?
Clear your cashe, that fixed it for me.
[Patch 4.8] RIP Pantheon General Discussion - Page 62
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
Clear your cashe, that fixed it for me. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
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739
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
All-in Ziggs :D | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
i ended up doing most damage with blue build cait build. 40% cdr, ibg/muramana/lw/bc/ionian boots/bt. Shit was cancer as fuck. Could Q-E combo every 5 seconds. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
I voted for it, 3 people went for ziggs and malphite I wonder if the game will ever end LOL | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
A rioter talking to hai: ziggs one for all is like swarmhost ZvZ That is absurdly accurate | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Also laser is silly with smartcast. I don't know how you guys make it work, because it feels so much better to press(release key) click&drag release vs. press drag release. Maybe it's just because I don't know the range on viktor E. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On May 30 2014 12:20 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: All of the Pentakill stuff is actually amazing. I thought it would be gimmicky bullshit like Instalok or all that other crap but oh my god \m/ (Well, the instrumental is basic as heck. Lyrics are fun and well done so you don't even notice the music though.) On May 30 2014 10:31 GolemMadness wrote: Well, it's only 110 when you're level 9. I'll generally get athene's or morello anyway. That's the thing. Viktor is a burst champion, his laser's AoE is thin and slower than something like Ziggs' Q or Lux's E (Ziggs's Q has 1700 projectile speed before the first bounce wtf, it's point'n'click at this stage unless they can dash), and he doesn't have absurd damage/reach like LeBlanc to allow for an early Grail. Because Q range is short / he only has 2 damaging abilities / he does his damage over time / his R is a huge part of his burst but clunky as hell and it's easy to miss out on damage / he's immobile and squishy, I think that Viktor's bad late game. If people are mostly squishies (or their tanky members aren't damage threats, eg. stuff like Maokai rather than Shyvana) and don't abuse your low range you can destroy teams, but the latter it goes, the harder it is (esp. as you die super fast). Otherwise, you really peak at midgame, when even if your ult won't kill a meta tanky offlaner (not even Ryze) you'll kill squishies super fast and be able to to zone the rest, while being able to survive more than 2s under enemy fire (save for assassins). If you build chalice or grail, you hurt this peak by delaying your items. I'd rather focus on getting as many blue buffs as possible and building damage than trying to poke people because Viktor will lose in that department, his sustained ranged damage is inferior to most poke champs (one spell, long cd), and while CDR is useful for his ult, he's so reliant on it (and it's clearly a teamfighting ult) that it's not like he's Ziggs who has self-peel/mobility, amazing zone control with the mines and 1k+ range spam even if he burnt his ult on a sidelane 15s before the fight, or Lux/LB who don't care about "wasting" theirs because with CDR the cd becomes so short you just need to stall a bit. TL;DR: only one spell with long cd to damage farther than 600 range, clunky flat 120s cd teamfighting ult, about as easy to reach and kill as Brand -> your late game is suspect so you should abuse your weird power curve (esp. since people usually don't know about it). | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
I'm not saying that you need to rush chalice or anything, just that including athene's or morello in your build at some point can be good. The 20% CDR is very strong on Viktor, and the mana regen is needed for extended sieges if you don't have blue. | ||
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Bam Lee
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On May 30 2014 19:53 Bam Lee wrote: Guys try one for all Alistar. It's fucking hilarious lol Yep, I always vote for alistar. Nobody knows about me leet tiamat alistar build | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And he can only hit one spell when doing it. TL;DR: as I mentioned, I'll often get Grail after Augment/Zhonya/Void Staff (Deathcap if I was doing well and built it), but I find counter-productive to build it early. Viktor needs the mana sustain, it's just that he needs to burst people more. His numbers aren't bad for the lategame, but not building tanky means his shield is stronger mid than late game, and like Swain the combination of short range + damage over time means that it's harder to kill people (they have more time to receive a shield/heal/flash out/whatever, and are more likely to have a defensive item later on). Not ideal for a sitting duck burst mage. + Show Spoiler [long shit not-TL;DR] + His Q seems good on paper, "oh yeah, good dps thanks to low cd, and a shield too!", but in actuality when you're in range to cast it you're usually in trouble too, Ryze has 600 range, but Ryze has innate spell vamp, insane single-target damage to get a burst of healing, instant cc, and he naturally builds pretty tanky. Of course I had great situations (spent something like 8-9 seconds under 150 health in a late game fight once because Twitch mispositioned and I instantly destroyed him, while the rest of my team dove, meaning only their Leona was on me and QWQ kept me alive till I killed her), but these are exceptions. Usually when someone's on top of you, you Flash out or you die (sometimes you can't even unleash your combo because Q/W/R have long-ass animations). Viktor doesn't like getting in range, but he has to if he wants to deal damage (because of his non-damaging spell he needs Q, and R gets easily outran if he's not actively chasing people; on the other hand cc him right after he casts R and you greatly reduce his damage because pet AI sucks and while it's supposed to chase, more often than not the ult will sit there, and by the time the cc wears off the enemy's out of the AoE and outruns the cloud). | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
I like Quinn's, Diana's and Vi's off the top of my head :3 | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 30 2014 20:10 Complete wrote: What's your guys favorite login music? I like Quinn's, Diana's and Vi's off the top of my head :3 I liked Thresh tbh. even though it was real creepy | ||
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739
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On May 30 2014 20:18 739 wrote: I have sound off when playing LoL :< I only have music off when playing LoL, as a top laner the sound of hitting a turret is the only thing that keeps me going. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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