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MoonBear
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Bam Lee
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Pre 6 Akali is not particularly hard to manage but post 6 it feels like I can't even get near her or the minions unless I bait for my jungler. Am I doomed to just push and try to roam or is there some trick I can use to handle her? I would assume there is not but maybe some experienced tf player can help me? Technically I can safely farm but I wanna know if there is anyway for me to actually turn the match up into my favor | ||
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EquilasH
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wei2coolman
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EquilasH
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On May 30 2014 10:56 Bam Lee wrote: What can I do as tf vs Akali? Pre 6 Akali is not particularly hard to manage but post 6 it feels like I can't even get near her or the minions unless I bait for my jungler. Am I doomed to just push and try to roam or is there some trick I can use to handle her? I would assume there is not but maybe some experienced tf player can help me? Technically I can safely farm but I wanna know if there is anyway for me to actually turn the match up into my favor TF hardy wins any mid matchup....you pretty much always just farm safely and roam with ult, maybe if you get fed roaming you can come back and 1v1 their mid | ||
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1ntrigue
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Gahlo
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Sufficiency
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I seriously think Riot's match making algorithm has some bugs. | ||
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On May 30 2014 11:50 Gahlo wrote: Just finished a Karthus A41:Mirror game. I am ready for my Chemo now. I did an all yasuo game, I had 0 idea what was going on but 1 knockup meant instant ace | ||
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Nemireck
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ShaLLoW[baY]
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On May 30 2014 10:33 MoonBear wrote: So Ohmwreaker from Pentakill got leaked so Riot just put it up publicly. Damn this is so good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcihD7tyPvM RiotPraeco also confirmed that Derek Sherinian contributed to this All of the Pentakill stuff is actually amazing. I thought it would be gimmicky bullshit like Instalok or all that other crap but oh my god \m/ | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On May 30 2014 12:10 Nemireck wrote: I think it has to do with the angle of vision. Don't you have a wider field of view looking up the map from blue side? Would that not help? is the effect that big though? When a champion wins 55% of the time, that champion is OP. You can get the same effect just by being on the blue side. In any case, to verify what you said, I need to collect more data and plot the blue side win % per champion. It is possible that champions with more skillshots are more heavily affected by the blue side. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On May 30 2014 12:22 Sufficiency wrote: is the effect that big though? When a champion wins 55% of the time, that champion is OP. You can get the same effect just by being on the blue side. In any case, to verify what you said, I need to collect more data and plot the blue side win % per champion. It is possible that champions with more skillshots are more heavily affected by the blue side. Considering that it's a wider vision angle with less HUD stuff in the way... yeah. | ||
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thenexusp
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On May 30 2014 12:22 Sufficiency wrote: is the effect that big though? When a champion wins 55% of the time, that champion is OP. You can get the same effect just by being on the blue side. In any case, to verify what you said, I need to collect more data and plot the blue side win % per champion. It is possible that champions with more skillshots are more heavily affected by the blue side. Well all of the data we have so far suggests being blue provides a 5-6% win rate jump... I don't expect win % per champion to be any different. | ||
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TheYango
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It probably has to do with a number of things. Vision angle could be one of them, but it's definitely not the only one. EDIT: One thing of note is that viewing angle as a source of imbalance does not only exist on Summoner's Rift. If you wanted to look at the effect of viewing angle in isolation, we coincidentally have a game mode that is played on an otherwise symmetrical map, but is subject to viewing angle-based imbalance (ARAM). | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On May 30 2014 12:42 TheYango wrote: Remember that Riot has also admitted in the past that matchmaking is actually supposed to partially account for blue side imbalance. So unless this changed or is disabled in OFA, the effect is actually even more dramatic because Riot is already trying to correct for it. It probably has to do with a number of things. Vision angle could be one of them, but it's definitely not the only one. I know if you start a game and don't interfere most times blue takes an inhibitor first just from the natural wave movements. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
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Gahlo
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On May 30 2014 12:42 TheYango wrote: Remember that Riot has also admitted in the past that matchmaking is actually supposed to partially account for blue side imbalance. So unless this changed or is disabled in OFA, the effect is actually even more dramatic because Riot is already trying to correct for it. It probably has to do with a number of things. Vision angle could be one of them, but it's definitely not the only one. EDIT: One thing of note is that viewing angle as a source of imbalance does not only exist on Summoner's Rift. If you wanted to look at the effect of viewing angle in isolation, we coincidentally have a game mode that is played on an otherwise symmetrical map, but is subject to viewing angle-based imbalance (ARAM). Every single MMR checker estimates a roughly 30 mmr gap between teams. This is less than a 2 win gap and in no way is enough to make up for 5-6%. | ||
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