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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
May 17 2014 02:50 GMT
#1361
On May 17 2014 11:19 dae wrote:
Lategame Feral Flare jungle kayle is so stupid.

I was doing around 500ish damage a hit, over 2 times a second. Thats 3000 hybrid damage done in the duration of my ultimate. To the target and his 2 nearest allies.

It felt like all I had to do was rightclick and whatever I clicked died in a second or two.

Why don't late game adc's do anywhere near this damage >.<

+ Show Spoiler +
FF Tooth Zerkers Hurricane Deathcap Voidstaff build, with like 40ish stacks on FF, with like 28 offense and AS reds/quints.


OddOne talked about Hurricane build a few hours ago. He said it's a fun and gimmicky build, but really not suitable for a serious game. Something about the damage not applying correctly to the rightclick target and only splashing the surrounding targets. So essentialy whoever you rightclick suffers next to no damage.

According to OddOne.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
May 17 2014 02:55 GMT
#1362
On May 17 2014 08:36 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 08:32 Celial wrote:
On May 17 2014 08:06 canikizu wrote:
Jungle Kayle was as old as xj9 yo.
feralflare jungle kayle maybe, but spectral wraith?


Well TOO is 11-1 with it. Spectral Wraith, Boots 1, Nashors, Sorc Homeguards, Deathcap. 30-0-0 masteries. AS/AP runes.

Isn't that basically what unseen used (pretty much exclusively) to get mid diamond with?


Pretty much yeah, with a few tweaks
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 17 2014 03:19 GMT
#1363
On May 17 2014 11:50 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 11:19 dae wrote:
Lategame Feral Flare jungle kayle is so stupid.

I was doing around 500ish damage a hit, over 2 times a second. Thats 3000 hybrid damage done in the duration of my ultimate. To the target and his 2 nearest allies.

It felt like all I had to do was rightclick and whatever I clicked died in a second or two.

Why don't late game adc's do anywhere near this damage >.<

+ Show Spoiler +
FF Tooth Zerkers Hurricane Deathcap Voidstaff build, with like 40ish stacks on FF, with like 28 offense and AS reds/quints.


OddOne talked about Hurricane build a few hours ago. He said it's a fun and gimmicky build, but really not suitable for a serious game. Something about the damage not applying correctly to the rightclick target and only splashing the surrounding targets. So essentialy whoever you rightclick suffers next to no damage.

According to OddOne.

korean soloq apparently says otherwise
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 03:21:18
May 17 2014 03:21 GMT
#1364
On May 17 2014 11:19 dae wrote:
Lategame Feral Flare jungle kayle is so stupid.

I was doing around 500ish damage a hit, over 2 times a second. Thats 3000 hybrid damage done in the duration of my ultimate. To the target and his 2 nearest allies.

It felt like all I had to do was rightclick and whatever I clicked died in a second or two.

Why don't late game adc's do anywhere near this damage >.<

+ Show Spoiler +
FF Tooth Zerkers Hurricane Deathcap Voidstaff build, with like 40ish stacks on FF, with like 28 offense and AS reds/quints.

To be fair, Kayle is one strongest carries, if not the strongest, come late game.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
May 17 2014 03:34 GMT
#1365
On May 17 2014 12:21 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 11:19 dae wrote:
Lategame Feral Flare jungle kayle is so stupid.

I was doing around 500ish damage a hit, over 2 times a second. Thats 3000 hybrid damage done in the duration of my ultimate. To the target and his 2 nearest allies.

It felt like all I had to do was rightclick and whatever I clicked died in a second or two.

Why don't late game adc's do anywhere near this damage >.<

+ Show Spoiler +
FF Tooth Zerkers Hurricane Deathcap Voidstaff build, with like 40ish stacks on FF, with like 28 offense and AS reds/quints.

To be fair, Kayle is one strongest carries, if not the strongest, come late game.


The problem was not that it was strong. It was that I literally just farmed the jungle for 30 minutes doing next to nothing pvp wise.

Lanes were doing well enough that I never got invaded, and never really needed to do anything around the map.

Farming PvE for so long to come out so strong just seems... wrong.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 17 2014 04:00 GMT
#1366
Eh, if you pve that long, your lanes stay even enough, and the other team can't take advantage of your team lacking tankiness and initiation from the jungle, you probably deserved to win.
Freeeeeeedom
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
May 17 2014 04:00 GMT
#1367
Reddit seems to be swarmed with posts about mutes, did they just mute/ban a ton of people or something?
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
May 17 2014 04:12 GMT
#1368
On May 17 2014 12:34 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 12:21 JazzVortical wrote:
On May 17 2014 11:19 dae wrote:
Lategame Feral Flare jungle kayle is so stupid.

I was doing around 500ish damage a hit, over 2 times a second. Thats 3000 hybrid damage done in the duration of my ultimate. To the target and his 2 nearest allies.

It felt like all I had to do was rightclick and whatever I clicked died in a second or two.

Why don't late game adc's do anywhere near this damage >.<

+ Show Spoiler +
FF Tooth Zerkers Hurricane Deathcap Voidstaff build, with like 40ish stacks on FF, with like 28 offense and AS reds/quints.

To be fair, Kayle is one strongest carries, if not the strongest, come late game.


The problem was not that it was strong. It was that I literally just farmed the jungle for 30 minutes doing next to nothing pvp wise.

Lanes were doing well enough that I never got invaded, and never really needed to do anything around the map.

Farming PvE for so long to come out so strong just seems... wrong.


When I see accounts like this all I think is, "you got carried". If your team goes even or just a little behind after THIRTY MINUTES of 4v5 then they are beasts and deserve honor. Kayle jungle is a real thing don't get me wrong but the level of shenanigans players can get away with when they know for a fact no jungle help will hit their lane is game breaking in all but the most extreme cases.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 17 2014 04:15 GMT
#1369
--- Nuked ---
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 17 2014 04:33 GMT
#1370
On May 17 2014 13:12 Velocirapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 12:34 dae wrote:
On May 17 2014 12:21 JazzVortical wrote:
On May 17 2014 11:19 dae wrote:
Lategame Feral Flare jungle kayle is so stupid.

I was doing around 500ish damage a hit, over 2 times a second. Thats 3000 hybrid damage done in the duration of my ultimate. To the target and his 2 nearest allies.

It felt like all I had to do was rightclick and whatever I clicked died in a second or two.

Why don't late game adc's do anywhere near this damage >.<

+ Show Spoiler +
FF Tooth Zerkers Hurricane Deathcap Voidstaff build, with like 40ish stacks on FF, with like 28 offense and AS reds/quints.

To be fair, Kayle is one strongest carries, if not the strongest, come late game.


The problem was not that it was strong. It was that I literally just farmed the jungle for 30 minutes doing next to nothing pvp wise.

Lanes were doing well enough that I never got invaded, and never really needed to do anything around the map.

Farming PvE for so long to come out so strong just seems... wrong.


When I see accounts like this all I think is, "you got carried". If your team goes even or just a little behind after THIRTY MINUTES of 4v5 then they are beasts and deserve honor. Kayle jungle is a real thing don't get me wrong but the level of shenanigans players can get away with when they know for a fact no jungle help will hit their lane is game breaking in all but the most extreme cases.


Getting carried is a bad term. It implies that you made no right decisions, or an arbitrary amount of bad ones. Like, if there's a difference between being carried and carrying, you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, and when you're forced to do that it's very vague. What he did ensured that when it got late his team had another fed champion. How do you know that their jungler couldn't have counterganked and gotten his lanes snowballing that way, rather than letting them farm their hearts out and avoiding dying to the ganks. Sure they played impressive for a longer time than him, but he did something and it won him the game. If he had DC'd what were the odds of his team winning with absolutely no jungler?
Hey! How you doin'?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 17 2014 04:47 GMT
#1371
On May 17 2014 13:00 killerdog wrote:
Reddit seems to be swarmed with posts about mutes, did they just mute/ban a ton of people or something?


Is there some sort of red post about this? This sounds hilarious.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
May 17 2014 04:52 GMT
#1372
On May 17 2014 13:47 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 13:00 killerdog wrote:
Reddit seems to be swarmed with posts about mutes, did they just mute/ban a ton of people or something?


Is there some sort of red post about this? This sounds hilarious.

"In the meantime, a new system will hand out restricted chat punishments and game bans rapidly so players will be banned or placed into restricted chat mode within a few hours of their negative behavior."

I would assume it's due to this.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 17 2014 05:00 GMT
#1373
lost 2 games to cait and she zoned me hard, i farm at tower but my jg doesnt want to help. Lost 2 bot towers and several dragon, what should i do?
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 17 2014 05:04 GMT
#1374
Get better supports. That's the support lacking not you. I say that without seeing you play of course. Maybe you're too passive, idk.
Hey! How you doin'?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 05:12:23
May 17 2014 05:11 GMT
#1375
--- Nuked ---
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 17 2014 05:20 GMT
#1376
Oh yay gotta love getting drop hacked in a team builder game before it even starts.
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 05:45:56
May 17 2014 05:44 GMT
#1377
NLB finals soon! Anyone staying up?

edit: stream link: http://www.twitch.tv/nicegametv
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11824 Posts
May 17 2014 05:45 GMT
#1378
On May 17 2014 14:04 Zdrastochye wrote:
Get better supports. That's the support lacking not you. I say that without seeing you play of course. Maybe you're too passive, idk.


Push at level 1. It works wonders against Cait. If cait pushes you, she can poke you whenever you want to lasthit something. If you push her, it is a lot harder for her to do anything relevant. You might even experiment with not helping at the buff and letting your supp do all the work there just to get the lane pushing faster.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
May 17 2014 05:47 GMT
#1379
I'm a one trick Vayne pony, so this is from my perspective. (This is against high platinum/Low diamond competition)

Caitlyn forces you to not be allowed to play during lane phase. Your job is chill out getting what CS you can. Once you have Bork, you slam her. Vayne 50 cs down with bork after 6 still owns Caitlyn in a fight. Remember, Caitlyn doesn't have an ult she can use in duels. All you can do is teamfight better than her, and try to catch her in 1v1/2v2's. Trying to beat a Caitlyn in lane is not worth the hassle unless you're way better than her. If you're just kinda better stick to outplaying her in teamfights.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 05:58:18
May 17 2014 05:54 GMT
#1380
Decided to try and lvl 2 red buff I have always wanted to try. Puts Lee's steal to shame.

+ Show Spoiler [Step 1, get the vision] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Step 2, wait for it] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Step 3, press w] +
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