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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 12 2014 20:57 GMT
#601
On May 13 2014 05:55 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
NintendudeX is saying that braum can be a good jungler if the meta goes back to favouring golem junglers, thoughts?

no aoe no sustain, no way to gank pre 6
seems pretty worthless to me

i dont think id be taking anything nintendude says about jungling seriously tbh

No way to gank pre 6? His ganks in mid and botlane should be pretty easy imo. Leap onto teammate, land Q. proceed to stun.
liftlift > tsm
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 12 2014 21:00 GMT
#602
On May 13 2014 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 05:55 arb wrote:
On May 13 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
NintendudeX is saying that braum can be a good jungler if the meta goes back to favouring golem junglers, thoughts?

no aoe no sustain, no way to gank pre 6
seems pretty worthless to me

i dont think id be taking anything nintendude says about jungling seriously tbh

No way to gank pre 6? His ganks in mid and botlane should be pretty easy imo. Leap onto teammate, land Q. proceed to stun.

seems like a poor mans lee sin
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 21:01:15
May 12 2014 21:00 GMT
#603
On May 13 2014 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 05:55 arb wrote:
On May 13 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
NintendudeX is saying that braum can be a good jungler if the meta goes back to favouring golem junglers, thoughts?

no aoe no sustain, no way to gank pre 6
seems pretty worthless to me

i dont think id be taking anything nintendude says about jungling seriously tbh

No way to gank pre 6? His ganks in mid and botlane should be pretty easy imo. Leap onto teammate, land Q. proceed to stun.


Your cc and damage is almost totally reliant on your teammates and a skillshot though, which doesn't seem too great.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
May 12 2014 21:01 GMT
#604
How to Irelia vs Darius?

I got shit on so hard... Started out with 9-21-0 masteries and cloth+5 and still didn't work out. I think I was just too aggro on him, since I couldn't trade anything...

Also what do you buy vs him, armor or HP? I started out with Ninja Tabi+Dblade into Cutlass>Bork and then a TF+Chain Vest, would it have been better to get some HP inbetween?

I'm generally pretty bad at buying doran's items, when do you buy extra ones and when do you not?
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 21:04:59
May 12 2014 21:04 GMT
#605
On May 13 2014 06:01 Doctorbeat wrote:
How to Irelia vs Darius?

I got shit on so hard... Started out with 9-21-0 masteries and cloth+5 and still didn't work out. I think I was just too aggro on him, since I couldn't trade anything...

Also what do you buy vs him, armor or HP? I started out with Ninja Tabi+Dblade into Cutlass>Bork and then a TF+Chain Vest, would it have been better to get some HP inbetween?

I'm generally pretty bad at buying doran's items, when do you buy extra ones and when do you not?

I remember reading Irelia vs Darius is pretty unwinnable tbh. I'd just try to farm up as much as you can and try not to take too many Axe Q's to the face

I dont think theres ever a real set reason unless you are super super ahead, usually imo on top lane a dorans blade/shield is usually pretty decent to invest in. But if youre super ahead like kills early maybe a vamp/whatever you need would be better
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
May 12 2014 21:04 GMT
#606
On May 13 2014 05:50 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
No I honestly think that I'm way the fuck better than everyone I play against including diamonds. I was top 200 in this game in season 1 and I have played with/against players who are currently pros in NA, KR, and JP. I've been in matches where it was reginald vs hotshot for #1 rank spot on the ladder. Dyrus and I were on a (state) team together, I used to rotate in with ehomda's normal stack, been on vent with a team that's atlanta/jougonaut/doublelift/roku/me, etc.

I'm not impressed by random diamonds in NA .

I was top20 euw season2, now I'm a shitter low diamond 1, too many new players solo queue is way harder than it was . But keep climbing and see where you can go ! I've heard NA solo queue is a bit easier, not sure if that's true or not but imo you'll start sweating in D1 :D.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 12 2014 21:09 GMT
#607
On May 13 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
NintendudeX is saying that braum can be a good jungler if the meta goes back to favouring golem junglers, thoughts?

NintendudeX has periods of genius punctuated by long spells of dumbness. I'm guessing he's not in a genius period.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 12 2014 21:10 GMT
#608
does he have periods of periods punctuated by question marks?
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 21:11:43
May 12 2014 21:11 GMT
#609
On May 13 2014 05:53 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 04:19 RouaF wrote:
Tbh TL could just dump sc2 and jump into LoL l0l. The koreans/Ongamenet switched already, MBC is dead, sc2 is dead, the only thing that could bring starcraft back to life would be a bw revival.

And yes I know this is not going to happen . I liked having the LoL streams for big events on TL though, was convenient.

Just get this addon and kick TL's calender to the curb if you want to track league events.

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
NintendudeX is saying that braum can be a good jungler if the meta goes back to favouring golem junglers, thoughts?

The counterganks would be godly.


I don't want a calendar, I just want to be able to visit TL and go "oh yeah OGN/LCS is on, forgot that" and click on it. We'll see what they do ...
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 12 2014 21:16 GMT
#610
On May 13 2014 06:11 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 05:53 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 04:19 RouaF wrote:
Tbh TL could just dump sc2 and jump into LoL l0l. The koreans/Ongamenet switched already, MBC is dead, sc2 is dead, the only thing that could bring starcraft back to life would be a bw revival.

And yes I know this is not going to happen . I liked having the LoL streams for big events on TL though, was convenient.

Just get this addon and kick TL's calender to the curb if you want to track league events.

On May 13 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
NintendudeX is saying that braum can be a good jungler if the meta goes back to favouring golem junglers, thoughts?

The counterganks would be godly.


I don't want a calendar, I just want to be able to visit TL and go "oh yeah OGN/LCS is on, forgot that" and click on it. We'll see what they do ...


I believe that the LoL events will be filtered OUT by default, but you'll be able to put them in the calendar with a profile edit.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 12 2014 21:27 GMT
#611
Tbh if they even let you add DotA 2 and HS events back in the default TL calendar (and conversely, SC2 on the other sites too, I'm not gonna mention LoL on liquiddota obv. ) and had the calendar working cross-sites or something like the accounts do, it'd be pretty good.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
May 12 2014 21:27 GMT
#612
On May 13 2014 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 05:55 arb wrote:
On May 13 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
NintendudeX is saying that braum can be a good jungler if the meta goes back to favouring golem junglers, thoughts?

no aoe no sustain, no way to gank pre 6
seems pretty worthless to me

i dont think id be taking anything nintendude says about jungling seriously tbh

No way to gank pre 6? His ganks in mid and botlane should be pretty easy imo. Leap onto teammate, land Q. proceed to stun.


His ganks will be fine if your allies have gap closers. I don't think that would be the issue. The issue would be how do you clear creeps with zero base damage and the sole clearing power coming from concussive blows bonus damage of 12 + 2xlevel per attack.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 12 2014 21:29 GMT
#613
On May 13 2014 06:27 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 13 2014 05:55 arb wrote:
On May 13 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
NintendudeX is saying that braum can be a good jungler if the meta goes back to favouring golem junglers, thoughts?

no aoe no sustain, no way to gank pre 6
seems pretty worthless to me

i dont think id be taking anything nintendude says about jungling seriously tbh

No way to gank pre 6? His ganks in mid and botlane should be pretty easy imo. Leap onto teammate, land Q. proceed to stun.


His ganks will be fine if your allies have gap closers. I don't think that would be the issue. The issue would be how do you clear creeps with zero base damage and the sole clearing power coming from concussive blows bonus damage of 12 + 2xlevel per attack.

Like I said zero aoe, zero sustain, unless they make golem give you cleave i dont see how he can possibly do anything in the jungle besides cost your team the game.

Like someone said in the last thread they designed him in a way he can do nothing but support. Though it looks like he'll be really good at it
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 12 2014 21:32 GMT
#614
Anyone played Braum already? Thoughts?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
May 12 2014 21:36 GMT
#615
On May 13 2014 06:04 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 05:50 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
No I honestly think that I'm way the fuck better than everyone I play against including diamonds. I was top 200 in this game in season 1 and I have played with/against players who are currently pros in NA, KR, and JP. I've been in matches where it was reginald vs hotshot for #1 rank spot on the ladder. Dyrus and I were on a (state) team together, I used to rotate in with ehomda's normal stack, been on vent with a team that's atlanta/jougonaut/doublelift/roku/me, etc.

I'm not impressed by random diamonds in NA .

I was top20 euw season2, now I'm a shitter low diamond 1, too many new players solo queue is way harder than it was . But keep climbing and see where you can go ! I've heard NA solo queue is a bit easier, not sure if that's true or not but imo you'll start sweating in D1 :D.


Holy fuck the 5HIT arrogance is real, i never knew
I got five reasons for you to shut up
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 12 2014 21:39 GMT
#616
The very first coaching video by LastShadow I saw was where he was coaching some Ryze v Orianna game and tried to argue that Ryze at one point should have flashed in with ignite for a kill -- totally forgetting that Orianna had heal, meaning Ryze would just be tanking a minion wave and a half and almost certainly give up first blood.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 21:51:01
May 12 2014 21:45 GMT
#617
On May 13 2014 05:50 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
No I honestly think that I'm way the fuck better than everyone I play against including diamonds. I was top 200 in this game in season 1 and I have played with/against players who are currently pros in NA, KR, and JP. I've been in matches where it was reginald vs hotshot for #1 rank spot on the ladder. Dyrus and I were on a (state) team together, I used to rotate in with ehomda's normal stack, been on vent with a team that's atlanta/jougonaut/doublelift/roku/me, etc.

I'm not impressed by random diamonds in NA .


You shouldn't live in the past though. The only way to prove that you are still a top NA player is to play your way up to the top spots of NA ladder.

I was top25 EUNE, and I was offered to form a team with Bjergsen and Malunoo back in early season 2, I didn't though and I somewhat regret that (because it meant transferring away from IRL friends to EUW). It doesn't mean I'm at that level anymore - everyone around me got better but personally I probably just stayed equally good due to not playing much, and it could be the same case with you.
wat
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
May 12 2014 21:48 GMT
#618
On May 13 2014 06:32 739 wrote:
Anyone played Braum already? Thoughts?


I'm trying to but it got picked by enemy team. :D
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
May 12 2014 21:56 GMT
#619
On May 13 2014 06:11 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 05:53 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 04:19 RouaF wrote:
Tbh TL could just dump sc2 and jump into LoL l0l. The koreans/Ongamenet switched already, MBC is dead, sc2 is dead, the only thing that could bring starcraft back to life would be a bw revival.

And yes I know this is not going to happen . I liked having the LoL streams for big events on TL though, was convenient.

Just get this addon and kick TL's calender to the curb if you want to track league events.

On May 13 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
NintendudeX is saying that braum can be a good jungler if the meta goes back to favouring golem junglers, thoughts?

The counterganks would be godly.


I don't want a calendar, I just want to be able to visit TL and go "oh yeah OGN/LCS is on, forgot that" and click on it. We'll see what they do ...

It's just a button you click on that gives you a dropdown of all the lolevents over the next 3 or so days, with links to streams, official websites, and leaguepedia pages. Far more thorough than TL's will ever be.
SilentShout
Profile Joined March 2011
686 Posts
May 12 2014 22:02 GMT
#620
I kind of want Braum now, but at the same time, I need all the IP I can get for the upcoming rune page sale.. tough times.
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