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[Patch 4.6] Twitch VU General Discussion - Page 48
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On April 26 2014 23:52 M2 wrote: But everyone will have this? Thats what I understood There's 3 main issues: 1) Right now it's in a beta. Some people have it and outside of spending money to subscribe to a twitch streamer I don't know of a way to get it. This means that the people that have it or want to pay for free software have an edge until it is released. 2) Like DBM and similar add-ons in WOW, it will become pretty much "required." Even for the players that already time these things routinely, there is no reason to not do it through Curse voice as it is more efficient and accurate. 3) It blurs the lines of the ToS. Things like this have been looked down upon in the past. Riot LAS/LAN has already publicly said that Curse Voice violates their policy for 3rd party programs. With the excuses given for Curse Voice, similar excuses can be made for tracking much more egregious things. On April 27 2014 00:22 UmberBane wrote: Is anyone watching the Brazil CBLoL tournament? Pretty amazing crowd and large stage, but they just can't seem to get the sound to work at all lol... http://www.twitch.tv/riotgamesbrazil There's also a Turkish league going on now aswell. http://www.twitch.tv/riotgamesturkish/ | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Nagne and sword's bot suddenly became incredibly determined to keep their jobs | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
On April 26 2014 23:53 arb wrote: Havent seen any timers for buffs, and its basically a countdown for dragon/baron, like ive said you can easily add 6/7 to whatever and get the time. And when you cant see them and they die? You get a big fat fuck off cause we don't know either. it's more or less senseless crying from people who think it takes a shitload of time and effort to add 5/6/7 to whatever they're doing. never had a problem doing it on my way to a camp or while i'm doing a camp. alot of players will just type it out regardless anyway I think you are overestimating the number of people who are timing those. It might be easy on paper but people lose track. I am just gold but people below gold is around %70 of the player base and i don't see people accurately time dragon in any of my games. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
For those leagues curse voice would be a pretty big advantage. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:34 Ketara wrote: Yeah having somebody on your team time buffs/drag/baron in gold or below is pretty rare. For those leagues curse voice would be a pretty big advantage. It really isn't though... these players in those leagues suck not because they don't time buffs. They suck cuz they die in midlane 3 times before the 5 minute mark. Adding timers doesn't change the fact that no one knows what to do with that info, and even if they did, they wouldn't have the mechanics to pull it off. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Brad`
Canada548 Posts
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:57 Disengaged wrote: I don't care about Curse voice. I'm not gonna be using it anyway. Same here. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
This whole season is basically patches that take away those things and focus only on teamfighting lategame. One more season like this and the whole laning phase will be pointless and summoners rift will be Dominion 2.0 -.- | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:39 wei2coolman wrote: It really isn't though... these players in those leagues suck not because they don't time buffs. They suck cuz they die in midlane 3 times before the 5 minute mark. Adding timers doesn't change the fact that no one knows what to do with that info, and even if they did, they wouldn't have the mechanics to pull it off. Yea but so do their opponents die midlane 3 times before the 5 minute mark because the games matchmaking is symmetric. The idea that there are not people who have good mechanics but poor timing or game sense is kinda dumb | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:39 wei2coolman wrote: It really isn't though... these players in those leagues suck not because they don't time buffs. They suck cuz they die in midlane 3 times before the 5 minute mark. Adding timers doesn't change the fact that no one knows what to do with that info, and even if they did, they wouldn't have the mechanics to pull it off. "They suck at these things so a massive aid in another thing won't matter." Real. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
If your giving away things then it has to be for EVERYONE and can't be an incentive to subscribe or be a perk for subscribing. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:51 UmberBane wrote: How did this even happen btw? You can't help but expect that Curse talked to Riot before putting resources into developing and heavily promoting such a thing. Did Riot tighten up their stance somewhere down the line, or did Curse just naively start pushing this thing out? Why do people all assume this? Curse is a reasonably big organization that makes a large portion of its money making third party add-ons starting from vanilla WoW. It's not unreasonable to assume that their devs (completely independent of the Curse League of Legends team/management) made Curse Voice to capitalize on League's huge popularity without conspiring with Riot. | ||
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Cheap0
United States540 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:39 wei2coolman wrote: It really isn't though... these players in those leagues suck not because they don't time buffs. They suck cuz they die in midlane 3 times before the 5 minute mark. Adding timers doesn't change the fact that no one knows what to do with that info, and even if they did, they wouldn't have the mechanics to pull it off. Though it's harder to organize people in Silver to take objectives properly, the power of timing objectives is magnified if they do organize. The enemy team will almost always be caught with their pants down (especially if you've been warding/clearing wards in advance), and by the time they realize Baron's respawned, your team has already killed it. Timing objectives was one of the big things that helped me climb out of Silver, I'd hate to see that lever for gaining elo taken away. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On April 27 2014 03:09 Ryuu314 wrote: Why do people all assume this? Curse is a reasonably big organization that makes a large portion of its money making third party add-ons starting from vanilla WoW. It's not unreasonable to assume that their devs (completely independent of the Curse League of Legends team/management) made Curse Voice to capitalize on League's huge popularity without conspiring with Riot. I know what Curse is and I also know that their developers have nothing to do with the team (lol). You actually speak to my point, as the long history that Curse has of making add-ons would at least pose the fair question why they wouldn't check out what they're allowed to do and what they're not allowed to do before putting ressources into developing and promoting bigger add-on projects. Just as you gave an example of a reasonable assumption, it's also not unreasonable to assume that with their history they *might* have been smart enough to have some kind of talk with Riot prior to publishing this app. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 26 2014 21:54 arb wrote: Its so ridiculous i can utterly shit on someone in lane, but 1-2 kills and they're back into total relevance no matter how behind they were some times. Or the entire team is winning but it doesnt matter because lol waveclear stalls the game for 30 minutes to the point we no longer matter and just flat out lose. its incredibly boring imo. Other than safe waveclear champs like ziggs having a strong earlygame, isn't that what is supposed to happen? I mean, unless you shat on Renekton with Jax or Olaf. In the opposite direction you really did nothing by "shitting" on you're opponent, you just did what is expected. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:50 Brad` wrote: Well the people most against this app also seem to be the people that have no idea what it does. It cracks me up when people are raging against features that it doesn't even have. The app times your teammates ultimates. This is something that NO ONE does, besides tryhard ranked 5's - This is a large advantage over people that don't use the app, as no one does this in soloq currently. I played WoW, I played WoW arena, I know exactly how much addons change a game and turn from a little help to mandatory or GTFO. The fact that this is happening to league makes me sad. And the fact that Curse is currently selling beta keys and getting away with it is sad (albeit they are only profiting via marketing, with the money going to the big streamers they are using). | ||
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