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Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
April 26 2014 10:08 GMT
#921
It's a good time to be a jungle and/or support main though. I've never seen so many viable picks in either.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
April 26 2014 10:13 GMT
#922
Honestly, if Riot allows Curse Voice as it is, I'm probably going to end up quitting league.

Right now Curse is, via streamers, selling an add-on that gives a competitive advantage to league of legends. The fact that Riot is sitting back and letting this happen is honestly completely disgusting, let alone if they let Curse Voice to exist as is.

It doesn't matter that it will "eventually" be available to everyone, what matters is that RIGHT NOW people are paying to get an advantage, and Riot is sitting back and letting it happen.

This entire situation sickens me.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4131 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 10:37:45
April 26 2014 10:34 GMT
#923
IMO FF takes out a lot of fun from soloQ, I got allergic when I see someone picks FF type of jungler in my team. The lack of presence these junglers have is so..I don't know...game ruining.
Last game we had WW who was literally farming wraiths & red bot (we were blue) while 5 man were pressuring our outer bot turret. We were 3 people defending it and our jax was pushing top. They broke through, killed all 3 of us, and after that they got WW who went to farm double golems, trying to make stacks, that is how retarded this item makes some people.

However, the item itself is not OP or smth, there is a certain counter play to it and it has its drawbacks so its ok as an item. So here comes the most philosophical question regarding league of legends overall:

Should a game be balanced around people retardness, lack of knowledge and low understanding (meaning that you don't put smth in the game that requires any deep effort to learn how to play with and/or against it) or should it be balanced around interesting & diverse stuff that have their counter play but people need to put bigger effort to understand it. Stuff that assumes people who are willing to learn and adapt.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 26 2014 10:40 GMT
#924
On April 26 2014 18:55 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 17:54 Numy wrote:
On April 26 2014 17:12 kongoline wrote:
yes in competitive games where people 1v2 and push 2-3 turrets just to snowball game and grab fast objectives to win games asap feral flare might not be OP but soloQ is completely different, just looking at the top soloq winrates and how things has changed its obvious something is off


I don't think FF is OP, it merely promotes boring gameplay or worse idle gameplay

I feel like the game is in a boring state atm personally


It's a product of all the changes Riot made to make "snowballing" less a thing. They don't seem to realize that by removing the incentives for building advantages you creating a rather stale environment. Hopefully they learn from their mistakes and rather look at itemization as away of dealing with "snowballing". By that I mean the difference between slot and cost efficiency. It's a far better way to go about it then all these changes they made in season 4.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
April 26 2014 10:49 GMT
#925
On April 26 2014 19:34 M2 wrote:
IMO FF takes out a lot of fun from soloQ, I got allergic when I see someone picks FF type of jungler in my team. The lack of presence these junglers have is so..I don't know...game ruining.
Last game we had WW who was literally farming wraiths & red bot (we were blue) while 5 man were pressuring our outer bot turret. We were 3 people defending it and our jax was pushing top. They broke through, killed all 3 of us, and after that they got WW who went to farm double golems, trying to make stacks, that is how retarded this item makes some people.

However, the item itself is not OP or smth, there is a certain counter play to it and it has its drawbacks so its ok as an item. So here comes the most philosophical question regarding league of legends overall:

Should a game be balanced around people retardness, lack of knowledge and low understanding (meaning that you don't put smth in the game that requires any deep effort to learn how to play with and/or against it) or should it be balanced around interesting & diverse stuff that have their counter play but people need to put bigger effort to understand it. Stuff that assumes people who are willing to learn and adapt.

To be fair to this WW, WW contributes close to nothing to towerdefenses and is terrible at it. They would likely have broken through with or without him, but now at least he has moved towards being the immortal he can be lategame.

And dumb people with no understanding of the game have ruined game since s1, so that is nothing new.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 11:32:40
April 26 2014 11:31 GMT
#926
On April 26 2014 19:13 dae wrote:
Honestly, if Riot allows Curse Voice as it is, I'm probably going to end up quitting league.

Right now Curse is, via streamers, selling an add-on that gives a competitive advantage to league of legends. The fact that Riot is sitting back and letting this happen is honestly completely disgusting, let alone if they let Curse Voice to exist as is.

It doesn't matter that it will "eventually" be available to everyone, what matters is that RIGHT NOW people are paying to get an advantage, and Riot is sitting back and letting it happen.

This entire situation sickens me.

its not even a big advantage rofl, people still get caught, people still suck dick at the game. giving them a timer next to their map that shows when dragon spawns is not game breaking.

alternatively, why dont we ban people who have ventrillo or mumble or skype, since you know they can make voice chat in random solo queue games and get an advantage that way?

people are literally, and i mean quite literally pissing keys away like they are nothing. not having one isnt an auto loss, you can still communicate just as easily with pings etc. and i fail to see the game breaking advantage it gives, when all the means to do it have been there since before it was even a glimmer in someones eye and no ones cried about them nearly as hard as people have curse voice.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
April 26 2014 11:49 GMT
#927
On April 26 2014 18:55 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 17:54 Numy wrote:
On April 26 2014 17:12 kongoline wrote:
yes in competitive games where people 1v2 and push 2-3 turrets just to snowball game and grab fast objectives to win games asap feral flare might not be OP but soloQ is completely different, just looking at the top soloq winrates and how things has changed its obvious something is off


I don't think FF is OP, it merely promotes boring gameplay or worse idle gameplay

I feel like the game is in a boring state atm personally



personally I have played maybe 20 games total since all the anti snowball shit patch months ago. Game feels too forced into the lategame 5v5 teamfight wombo combo for the win.

Been playing smite since it released, if you have a strong early game you can carry it to a win in that game still, a feature which I see less and less in league every patch.
Forever ZeNEX.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
April 26 2014 12:15 GMT
#928
Anybody still have that warding elo site?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 26 2014 12:18 GMT
#929
it just feels game got 10x times worse with the recent patches, im not alone with this few days ago i read on reddit interview with some korean pro (dont remember who it was ,somebody known like toyz) and he said he actually fears about game future because of the patches
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
April 26 2014 12:40 GMT
#930
+ Show Spoiler [NLB Quarters, NJBS vs KTA] +
Sword wins 2:1.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 26 2014 12:52 GMT
#931
On April 26 2014 21:18 kongoline wrote:
it just feels game got 10x times worse with the recent patches, im not alone with this few days ago i read on reddit interview with some korean pro (dont remember who it was ,somebody known like toyz) and he said he actually fears about game future because of the patches

I think it was rapidstar, he said the game can last for much longer but he thinks if riot keep balancing the way they do players will start to leave
Glorious SEA doto
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 26 2014 12:54 GMT
#932
On April 26 2014 20:49 TyrantPotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 18:55 arb wrote:
On April 26 2014 17:54 Numy wrote:
On April 26 2014 17:12 kongoline wrote:
yes in competitive games where people 1v2 and push 2-3 turrets just to snowball game and grab fast objectives to win games asap feral flare might not be OP but soloQ is completely different, just looking at the top soloq winrates and how things has changed its obvious something is off


I don't think FF is OP, it merely promotes boring gameplay or worse idle gameplay

I feel like the game is in a boring state atm personally



personally I have played maybe 20 games total since all the anti snowball shit patch months ago. Game feels too forced into the lategame 5v5 teamfight wombo combo for the win.

Been playing smite since it released, if you have a strong early game you can carry it to a win in that game still, a feature which I see less and less in league every patch.

Its so ridiculous i can utterly shit on someone in lane, but 1-2 kills and they're back into total relevance no matter how behind they were some times. Or the entire team is winning but it doesnt matter because lol waveclear stalls the game for 30 minutes to the point we no longer matter and just flat out lose.

its incredibly boring imo.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4131 Posts
April 26 2014 14:47 GMT
#933
I just read about Curse voice, whats the big deal with it? For what I understand it will provide voice chat in the game + some timings. Looks like smth good overall
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
April 26 2014 14:51 GMT
#934
On April 26 2014 23:47 M2 wrote:
I just read about Curse voice, whats the big deal with it? For what I understand it will provide voice chat in the game + some timings. Looks like smth good overall

Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo.
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4131 Posts
April 26 2014 14:52 GMT
#935
On April 26 2014 23:51 Isualin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 23:47 M2 wrote:
I just read about Curse voice, whats the big deal with it? For what I understand it will provide voice chat in the game + some timings. Looks like smth good overall

Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo.

But everyone will have this? Thats what I understood
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 14:54:47
April 26 2014 14:53 GMT
#936
On April 26 2014 23:51 Isualin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 23:47 M2 wrote:
I just read about Curse voice, whats the big deal with it? For what I understand it will provide voice chat in the game + some timings. Looks like smth good overall

Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo.

Havent seen any timers for buffs, and its basically a countdown for dragon/baron, like ive said you can easily add 6/7 to whatever and get the time.

And when you cant see them and they die? You get a big fat fuck off cause we don't know either.

On April 26 2014 23:52 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 23:51 Isualin wrote:
On April 26 2014 23:47 M2 wrote:
I just read about Curse voice, whats the big deal with it? For what I understand it will provide voice chat in the game + some timings. Looks like smth good overall

Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo.

But everyone will have this? Thats what I understood


it's more or less senseless crying from people who think it takes a shitload of time and effort to add 5/6/7 to whatever they're doing. never had a problem doing it on my way to a camp or while i'm doing a camp. alot of players will just type it out regardless anyway
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 26 2014 15:08 GMT
#937
On April 26 2014 21:40 Gahlo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [NLB Quarters, NJBS vs KTA] +
Sword wins 2:1.


+ Show Spoiler +
Sword >>> SKTK1 confirmed.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
April 26 2014 15:14 GMT
#938
On April 26 2014 23:51 Isualin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 23:47 M2 wrote:
I just read about Curse voice, whats the big deal with it? For what I understand it will provide voice chat in the game + some timings. Looks like smth good overall

Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo.

Not really? You'd still have to convince the 4 lemmings you're playing with in bronze to come to the dragon. Gl with that.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 26 2014 15:15 GMT
#939
--- Nuked ---
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 26 2014 15:21 GMT
#940
On April 27 2014 00:15 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 23:53 arb wrote:
On April 26 2014 23:51 Isualin wrote:
On April 26 2014 23:47 M2 wrote:
I just read about Curse voice, whats the big deal with it? For what I understand it will provide voice chat in the game + some timings. Looks like smth good overall

Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo.

Havent seen any timers for buffs, and its basically a countdown for dragon/baron, like ive said you can easily add 6/7 to whatever and get the time.

And when you cant see them and they die? You get a big fat fuck off cause we don't know either.

On April 26 2014 23:52 M2 wrote:
On April 26 2014 23:51 Isualin wrote:
On April 26 2014 23:47 M2 wrote:
I just read about Curse voice, whats the big deal with it? For what I understand it will provide voice chat in the game + some timings. Looks like smth good overall

Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo.

But everyone will have this? Thats what I understood


it's more or less senseless crying from people who think it takes a shitload of time and effort to add 5/6/7 to whatever they're doing. never had a problem doing it on my way to a camp or while i'm doing a camp. alot of players will just type it out regardless anyway



WHAT?!? people on the interweb making a huge deal out of something small. That never happens.

Grab your pitchforks all, this is like the 174th thing that is going to ruin league and make you quit.

Pretty much, its ridiculous.
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