EPT[Patch 4.6] Twitch VU General Discussion - Page 47
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
Right now Curse is, via streamers, selling an add-on that gives a competitive advantage to league of legends. The fact that Riot is sitting back and letting this happen is honestly completely disgusting, let alone if they let Curse Voice to exist as is. It doesn't matter that it will "eventually" be available to everyone, what matters is that RIGHT NOW people are paying to get an advantage, and Riot is sitting back and letting it happen. This entire situation sickens me. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
Last game we had WW who was literally farming wraiths & red bot (we were blue) while 5 man were pressuring our outer bot turret. We were 3 people defending it and our jax was pushing top. They broke through, killed all 3 of us, and after that they got WW who went to farm double golems, trying to make stacks, that is how retarded this item makes some people. However, the item itself is not OP or smth, there is a certain counter play to it and it has its drawbacks so its ok as an item. So here comes the most philosophical question regarding league of legends overall: Should a game be balanced around people retardness, lack of knowledge and low understanding (meaning that you don't put smth in the game that requires any deep effort to learn how to play with and/or against it) or should it be balanced around interesting & diverse stuff that have their counter play but people need to put bigger effort to understand it. Stuff that assumes people who are willing to learn and adapt. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On April 26 2014 18:55 arb wrote: I feel like the game is in a boring state atm personally It's a product of all the changes Riot made to make "snowballing" less a thing. They don't seem to realize that by removing the incentives for building advantages you creating a rather stale environment. Hopefully they learn from their mistakes and rather look at itemization as away of dealing with "snowballing". By that I mean the difference between slot and cost efficiency. It's a far better way to go about it then all these changes they made in season 4. | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On April 26 2014 19:34 M2 wrote: IMO FF takes out a lot of fun from soloQ, I got allergic when I see someone picks FF type of jungler in my team. The lack of presence these junglers have is so..I don't know...game ruining. Last game we had WW who was literally farming wraiths & red bot (we were blue) while 5 man were pressuring our outer bot turret. We were 3 people defending it and our jax was pushing top. They broke through, killed all 3 of us, and after that they got WW who went to farm double golems, trying to make stacks, that is how retarded this item makes some people. However, the item itself is not OP or smth, there is a certain counter play to it and it has its drawbacks so its ok as an item. So here comes the most philosophical question regarding league of legends overall: Should a game be balanced around people retardness, lack of knowledge and low understanding (meaning that you don't put smth in the game that requires any deep effort to learn how to play with and/or against it) or should it be balanced around interesting & diverse stuff that have their counter play but people need to put bigger effort to understand it. Stuff that assumes people who are willing to learn and adapt. To be fair to this WW, WW contributes close to nothing to towerdefenses and is terrible at it. They would likely have broken through with or without him, but now at least he has moved towards being the immortal he can be lategame. And dumb people with no understanding of the game have ruined game since s1, so that is nothing new. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 26 2014 19:13 dae wrote: Honestly, if Riot allows Curse Voice as it is, I'm probably going to end up quitting league. Right now Curse is, via streamers, selling an add-on that gives a competitive advantage to league of legends. The fact that Riot is sitting back and letting this happen is honestly completely disgusting, let alone if they let Curse Voice to exist as is. It doesn't matter that it will "eventually" be available to everyone, what matters is that RIGHT NOW people are paying to get an advantage, and Riot is sitting back and letting it happen. This entire situation sickens me. its not even a big advantage rofl, people still get caught, people still suck dick at the game. giving them a timer next to their map that shows when dragon spawns is not game breaking. alternatively, why dont we ban people who have ventrillo or mumble or skype, since you know they can make voice chat in random solo queue games and get an advantage that way? people are literally, and i mean quite literally pissing keys away like they are nothing. not having one isnt an auto loss, you can still communicate just as easily with pings etc. and i fail to see the game breaking advantage it gives, when all the means to do it have been there since before it was even a glimmer in someones eye and no ones cried about them nearly as hard as people have curse voice. | ||
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On April 26 2014 18:55 arb wrote: I feel like the game is in a boring state atm personally personally I have played maybe 20 games total since all the anti snowball shit patch months ago. Game feels too forced into the lategame 5v5 teamfight wombo combo for the win. Been playing smite since it released, if you have a strong early game you can carry it to a win in that game still, a feature which I see less and less in league every patch. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
Sword wins 2:1. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On April 26 2014 21:18 kongoline wrote: it just feels game got 10x times worse with the recent patches, im not alone with this few days ago i read on reddit interview with some korean pro (dont remember who it was ,somebody known like toyz) and he said he actually fears about game future because of the patches I think it was rapidstar, he said the game can last for much longer but he thinks if riot keep balancing the way they do players will start to leave | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 26 2014 20:49 TyrantPotato wrote: personally I have played maybe 20 games total since all the anti snowball shit patch months ago. Game feels too forced into the lategame 5v5 teamfight wombo combo for the win. Been playing smite since it released, if you have a strong early game you can carry it to a win in that game still, a feature which I see less and less in league every patch. Its so ridiculous i can utterly shit on someone in lane, but 1-2 kills and they're back into total relevance no matter how behind they were some times. Or the entire team is winning but it doesnt matter because lol waveclear stalls the game for 30 minutes to the point we no longer matter and just flat out lose. its incredibly boring imo. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
On April 26 2014 23:47 M2 wrote: I just read about Curse voice, whats the big deal with it? For what I understand it will provide voice chat in the game + some timings. Looks like smth good overall Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
On April 26 2014 23:51 Isualin wrote: Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo. But everyone will have this? Thats what I understood | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 26 2014 23:51 Isualin wrote: Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo. Havent seen any timers for buffs, and its basically a countdown for dragon/baron, like ive said you can easily add 6/7 to whatever and get the time. And when you cant see them and they die? You get a big fat fuck off cause we don't know either. On April 26 2014 23:52 M2 wrote: But everyone will have this? Thats what I understood it's more or less senseless crying from people who think it takes a shitload of time and effort to add 5/6/7 to whatever they're doing. never had a problem doing it on my way to a camp or while i'm doing a camp. alot of players will just type it out regardless anyway | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Sword >>> SKTK1 confirmed. | ||
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Brad`
Canada548 Posts
On April 26 2014 23:51 Isualin wrote: Chat thing is not really a big deal but automatic timers for buffs, dragon and baron is a big advantage over others in low elo. Not really? You'd still have to convince the 4 lemmings you're playing with in bronze to come to the dragon. Gl with that. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 27 2014 00:15 JimmiC wrote: WHAT?!? people on the interweb making a huge deal out of something small. That never happens. Grab your pitchforks all, this is like the 174th thing that is going to ruin league and make you quit. Pretty much, its ridiculous. | ||
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