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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 10 2014 05:19 GMT
#1021
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35145 Posts
April 10 2014 05:25 GMT
#1022
On April 10 2014 14:14 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 13:11 Gahlo wrote:
On April 10 2014 12:49 zodde wrote:
On April 10 2014 12:18 las91 wrote:
So I just played Corki for the first time in ranked in S4. Mained him in S3.

Holy shit he feels so strong late game now compared to how meh he felt in it before, may pick him up permanently.


How is his lategame buffed compared to his S3 state? Just the Q ad scaling or what?

He had weird damage splits and scaling that made armorpen and AD kinda wonky. It's no surprised that his only highpoints are when Triforce is dumb.


The armorpen thing is still there, he just scales slightly better with AD.

Yup, but fixing even 1 of those is a massive improvement.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 10 2014 05:26 GMT
#1023
why ez jungle when u could twitch jungle and gank even better cuz huehuehue stealth in season 4
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35145 Posts
April 10 2014 05:33 GMT
#1024
On April 10 2014 14:26 FinestHour wrote:
why ez jungle when u could twitch jungle and gank even better cuz huehuehue stealth in season 4

Could have stopped at "why ez jungle?"
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 10 2014 05:35 GMT
#1025
On April 10 2014 14:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 14:14 zodde wrote:
On April 10 2014 13:11 Gahlo wrote:
On April 10 2014 12:49 zodde wrote:
On April 10 2014 12:18 las91 wrote:
So I just played Corki for the first time in ranked in S4. Mained him in S3.

Holy shit he feels so strong late game now compared to how meh he felt in it before, may pick him up permanently.


How is his lategame buffed compared to his S3 state? Just the Q ad scaling or what?

He had weird damage splits and scaling that made armorpen and AD kinda wonky. It's no surprised that his only highpoints are when Triforce is dumb.


The armorpen thing is still there, he just scales slightly better with AD.

Yup, but fixing even 1 of those is a massive improvement.


That one fix is gigantic though, I actually had an impact through the entire game instead of just from level 6-13 or so.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 10 2014 05:50 GMT
#1026
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 10 2014 05:52 GMT
#1027
On April 10 2014 14:26 FinestHour wrote:
why ez jungle when u could twitch jungle and gank even better cuz huehuehue stealth in season 4


"We gave you an extra 20% gold, but we're going to reduce available vision and true vision by 80%. That should make stealthy snowball champs balanced and fun to play while allowing reasonable counterplay." --Riot 2014
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TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 05:56:24
April 10 2014 05:56 GMT
#1028
How is jungle Twitch supposed to work now, anyways? When I tried it vs AI I just kind of died to the monsters too hard to even think about ganks.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 06:09:58
April 10 2014 06:08 GMT
#1029
On April 10 2014 14:56 TheHumanSensation wrote:
How is jungle Twitch supposed to work now, anyways? When I tried it vs AI I just kind of died to the monsters too hard to even think about ganks.


Take two buffs and get lvl 3 with a leach, your 5 potions and some kiting. Then you run into a lane and start attacking them when you're slightly behind them. Only seen it once or twice, but it's really strong if the other team doesn't respect it and plays passive as all fuck during the earlygame unless their jungler is waiting to countergank.

If you do get some early kills, you can jungle less cause you have gold and exp AND you actually jungle smoother cause of that extra gold and exp. Killing the same bird with two stones.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
April 10 2014 06:15 GMT
#1030
On April 10 2014 14:26 FinestHour wrote:
why ez jungle when u could twitch jungle and gank even better cuz huehuehue stealth in season 4


I think that Ez clears better and transitions into a decently useful member in the lategame whereas twitch does not offer as much past ganking
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 10 2014 06:49 GMT
#1031
On April 10 2014 15:15 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 14:26 FinestHour wrote:
why ez jungle when u could twitch jungle and gank even better cuz huehuehue stealth in season 4


I think that Ez clears better and transitions into a decently useful member in the lategame whereas twitch does not offer as much past ganking

eh. Twitch has a pretty monster lategame. He needs much more protection and positional awareness tho.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 10 2014 06:50 GMT
#1032
On April 10 2014 15:08 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 14:56 TheHumanSensation wrote:
How is jungle Twitch supposed to work now, anyways? When I tried it vs AI I just kind of died to the monsters too hard to even think about ganks.


Take two buffs and get lvl 3 with a leach, your 5 potions and some kiting. Then you run into a lane and start attacking them when you're slightly behind them. Only seen it once or twice, but it's really strong if the other team doesn't respect it and plays passive as all fuck during the earlygame unless their jungler is waiting to countergank.

If you do get some early kills, you can jungle less cause you have gold and exp AND you actually jungle smoother cause of that extra gold and exp. Killing the same bird with two stones.


From what I've seen, you always try for a cheese gank at level 2 after starting red.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 10 2014 06:50 GMT
#1033
Guys, quick question on Volibear jungle. Max E or W? Or it's all about preference? 0/21/9 or 0/9/21?
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zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
April 10 2014 07:06 GMT
#1034
On April 10 2014 15:50 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 15:08 zodde wrote:
On April 10 2014 14:56 TheHumanSensation wrote:
How is jungle Twitch supposed to work now, anyways? When I tried it vs AI I just kind of died to the monsters too hard to even think about ganks.


Take two buffs and get lvl 3 with a leach, your 5 potions and some kiting. Then you run into a lane and start attacking them when you're slightly behind them. Only seen it once or twice, but it's really strong if the other team doesn't respect it and plays passive as all fuck during the earlygame unless their jungler is waiting to countergank.

If you do get some early kills, you can jungle less cause you have gold and exp AND you actually jungle smoother cause of that extra gold and exp. Killing the same bird with two stones.


From what I've seen, you always try for a cheese gank at level 2 after starting red.


Yeah forgot about that vital part
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 07:12:21
April 10 2014 07:10 GMT
#1035
On April 10 2014 15:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 15:15 Goumindong wrote:
On April 10 2014 14:26 FinestHour wrote:
why ez jungle when u could twitch jungle and gank even better cuz huehuehue stealth in season 4


I think that Ez clears better and transitions into a decently useful member in the lategame whereas twitch does not offer as much past ganking

eh. Twitch has a pretty monster lategame. He needs much more protection and positional awareness tho.


Kindof. Twitch has a monster lategame when he is a protectable. Otherwise he suffers the same that every other immobile carry does however he doesn't have the poke, kite, or initiate, that Ashe or Varus bring to the table.

From the jungle, when you already have another ADC (likely) you're going to have problems being protected because your tanks can either protect twitch or the lane ADC, but they can't do both.

Ezreal doesn't suffer from this as much because his advantage is kite, poke, and tower destruction (Jungle ezreal doesn't so much gank, as come to lane and shove the tower).

edit: That discussion on shiv first (or well, second after vamp) trist i've put to the test. I am currently in the depths of plat 5 (50 LP) but its still pretty nice. Its worked for me on Ashe too
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 07:17:39
April 10 2014 07:16 GMT
#1036
I don't see anything wrong with Corki. Scaling has nothing to do with damage type. If enemy team stacks armor, you build armor pen. If they stack MR, you build magic pen. He has great poke and deals a lot of damage even if you don't buy any penetration.

And AD runes > armor pen because all his spells and his passive scales off AD but armor pen is useless for his passive, Q, and R
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 10 2014 07:37 GMT
#1037
On April 10 2014 15:50 739 wrote:
Guys, quick question on Volibear jungle. Max E or W? Or it's all about preference? 0/21/9 or 0/9/21?

From what I've seen from the few people that play Voli jungle, max Q first for the ms especially if you're playing a gank heavy style and I'd go with 0/21/9 for the tank
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 10 2014 08:32 GMT
#1038
On April 10 2014 14:56 TheHumanSensation wrote:
How is jungle Twitch supposed to work now, anyways? When I tried it vs AI I just kind of died to the monsters too hard to even think about ganks.


you can just sit outside of their leash range and they won't be able to reach you but you'll kill them before their health resets
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 08:55:50
April 10 2014 08:55 GMT
#1039
On April 10 2014 15:50 739 wrote:
Guys, quick question on Volibear jungle. Max E or W? Or it's all about preference? 0/21/9 or 0/9/21?


Saint goes E>W

Diamondprox goes W>E and rarely W>Q

Koreans go W>Q or sometimes W>E

IWD goes W>E, rarely E>W

TheOddOne goes W then mix EQ

Snoopeh goes W>E or E>W

seems situational, most W first max

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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 10 2014 08:57 GMT
#1040
Okay, that is nice detailed answer to my question :D Played yesterday for the very first time, did some Warmog/tanky items on him but I felt like he lacks damage in full tank build. Is TF viable on him? Also wriggles or Spirit Stone?
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