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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 20:22:35
March 23 2014 20:14 GMT
#1221
On March 24 2014 05:00 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 03:16 Sufficiency wrote:
Made a reddit post for this http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/215uj5/champion_counters_a_statistical_analysis_leona/

Note on the tables, maybe try putting the champion name above the data rather then below? It's more logical that way, and it feels a bit weird to read all the data before knowing who it applies to, (although it does make a rather fun guessing minigame.)


Thank you for the suggestion. I was considering this as well.

It's kind of annoying because blogger does not allow tagging titles above the picture, only below. To remedy this, I need to recreate my Excel template and have another cell above the actual table. I am sure it's possible on Excel, but I am too lazy to do it right now.


Never mind, Copying and pasting somehow worked.

[image loading]
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
March 23 2014 20:49 GMT
#1222
Hey I had a thought yesterday that might make Zilean into a viable support: Does time bomb trigger spellthief's edge on the 3/2/1 countdown? I remember hearing somewhere that it does like 3 ticks of 1-3 damage before the explosion.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
March 23 2014 20:52 GMT
#1223
On March 24 2014 05:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Hey I had a thought yesterday that might make Zilean into a viable support: Does time bomb trigger spellthief's edge on the 3/2/1 countdown? I remember hearing somewhere that it does like 3 ticks of 1-3 damage before the explosion.

It ticks on autos or spell dmg afaik, most likely would not apply to the timer. I have not tested this though.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 23 2014 20:53 GMT
#1224
On March 24 2014 05:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Hey I had a thought yesterday that might make Zilean into a viable support: Does time bomb trigger spellthief's edge on the 3/2/1 countdown? I remember hearing somewhere that it does like 3 ticks of 1-3 damage before the explosion.


It only rewards gold on the explosion.

I've played a few games on Zil lately and had a lot of fun with it :p
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 23 2014 21:19 GMT
#1225
On March 24 2014 05:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Hey I had a thought yesterday that might make Zilean into a viable support: Does time bomb trigger spellthief's edge on the 3/2/1 countdown? I remember hearing somewhere that it does like 3 ticks of 1-3 damage before the explosion.


Zilean is probably already secret legit with spellthief, he just needs the enemy team to have assassins instead of mundo renekton whatever.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 23 2014 21:26 GMT
#1226
http://www.twitch.tv/free7037/popout

Poohmandu streaming on twitch?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 23 2014 22:18 GMT
#1227
Heimer is fucking OP. I am banning him every single game from now on/
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
eParadox
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada132 Posts
March 23 2014 22:21 GMT
#1228
On March 24 2014 07:18 Sufficiency wrote:
Heimer is fucking OP. I am banning him every single game from now on/

He's so good right now. 59% soloq winrate doesn't lie...
Dodge The Hook - Diamond 5 - NA
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
March 23 2014 22:33 GMT
#1229
On March 24 2014 07:21 eParadox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 07:18 Sufficiency wrote:
Heimer is fucking OP. I am banning him every single game from now on/

He's so good right now. 59% soloq winrate doesn't lie...


Except when they have to disable the champion for multiple days because his turrets are reloading faster than they should be? xD
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 22:40:44
March 23 2014 22:39 GMT
#1230
On March 23 2014 20:19 mr_tolkien wrote:
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On March 23 2014 18:38 GolemMadness wrote:
On March 23 2014 17:30 TokO wrote:
Is flash really that much of a must? I usually play Shyvana and Leona with Exhaust\Ignite, and it doesn't seem that bad.


The only champions I've played that I don't take flash or ghost are Eve and Shaco.

Eve ? Seriously ?



On March 23 2014 22:11 Tula wrote:
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On March 23 2014 18:38 GolemMadness wrote:
On March 23 2014 17:30 TokO wrote:
Is flash really that much of a must? I usually play Shyvana and Leona with Exhaust\Ignite, and it doesn't seem that bad.


The only champions I've played that I don't take flash or ghost are Eve and Shaco.

so how do you get out of teamfights as Eve once your ult shield is used up?

Never mind laning (you might be able to lane on many chars without flash if you simply play like a pussy) but as a frontliner in a teamfight you need flash (or ghost). Either you need it to flash after that pesky adc who used his own flash to run away from you, or you need it to back the fuck out once your hp drops significantly.

go and spectate a random bronze game and you will see 5 people fighting to the bitter end, if you watch the pros instead the tanks fight until they are at 30% or so, then they try to run away. If their team wins it means there is one more person to help with objectives after the fight.

Simply put, yes you "might" be able to play decently without flash, but you would play better if you had flash and used it properly.


I'm generally getting zhonya's immediately after spectral wraith, so what I'm doing in most team fights is ulting as many people as I can, diving in while my shield's up, and then using zhonya's once they focus me and my shield's gone. As long as you don't waste your W, you can catch up to people very quickly when they flash away from you (assuming it's not over a wall).

Ignite is much stronger for ganks and is great for killing ADC's/other healers later in the game.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 23 2014 22:41 GMT
#1231
On March 24 2014 07:33 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 07:21 eParadox wrote:
On March 24 2014 07:18 Sufficiency wrote:
Heimer is fucking OP. I am banning him every single game from now on/

He's so good right now. 59% soloq winrate doesn't lie...


Except when they have to disable the champion for multiple days because his turrets are reloading faster than they should be? xD

his winrate keeps raising everyday even after hotfix
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 22:43:07
March 23 2014 22:41 GMT
#1232
On March 24 2014 07:21 eParadox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 07:18 Sufficiency wrote:
Heimer is fucking OP. I am banning him every single game from now on/

He's so good right now. 59% soloq winrate doesn't lie...

Considering how may absolutely terrible heimers I'm playing with/against in solo q, that number is even more impressive then it sounds.

On March 24 2014 07:41 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 07:33 zer0das wrote:
On March 24 2014 07:21 eParadox wrote:
On March 24 2014 07:18 Sufficiency wrote:
Heimer is fucking OP. I am banning him every single game from now on/

He's so good right now. 59% soloq winrate doesn't lie...


Except when they have to disable the champion for multiple days because his turrets are reloading faster than they should be? xD

his winrate keeps raising everyday even after hotfix


I think the people who just heard he was op and then fed a bunch with him are giving him up again, while the people who actually know how to use him are getting better.

A good heimer is pretty terrifying right now, I've seen some rather amusing top heimers just win 1v2's when they get ganked.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 22:46:15
March 23 2014 22:44 GMT
#1233
not gonna lie heimer winning 1v2 is nothing special for me now, it seems it happened in like every recent game i played in
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
March 23 2014 23:13 GMT
#1234
On March 24 2014 07:44 kongoline wrote:
not gonna lie heimer winning 1v2 is nothing special for me now, it seems it happened in like every recent game i played in

It's basically people saying "lol this is gonna be easy"... "why is he doing so much damage"... "oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck"... double kill.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 23 2014 23:27 GMT
#1235
I had a game as tf where after my first back I could just oneshot his turrets with my wild cards. Was pretty funny for the next few levels until they got tanky enough to survive, being able to wipe out 2 of his turrets every 7-8 seconds felt pretty cool.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
March 23 2014 23:46 GMT
#1236
Due to the advent of Heimer mid, I was looking for a decent counter pick and decided on Vlad (Ziggs was banned). He actually does pretty well, you can kill his turrets quite easy with Q+AA or Q+E while also gaining life. Also being able to easily pool any of his ulted abilities is quite nice.
I got nothin'...
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 24 2014 00:01 GMT
#1237
I feel like the way you beat Heimer is just pick somebody who can outrange him, but I haven't played mid against this magic new Heimer yet.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 24 2014 00:06 GMT
#1238
I kinda cried when I played Olaf against him (I also systematically died every time our jungler came, despite also killing Heimer), I didn't care when I played Viktor because without proper turret positioning, enough AP lets you one-shot the turrets early and post-augment you'll one-shot them for a long time.

Isn't Gragas supposed to utterly shit on Lissandra (and a bunch of other squishy, short-ranged, escape-less mages—Lissandra's E isn't an escape against Explosive Cask's projectile speed)? I managed to beat one after taking the advantage at level 1-2 then trading kills (getting fb), hitting 6 first by zoning him (despite the wave pushing towards him when we got back in lane) and from then on taking the lead. I thought he prob wasn't that good since I expected to be wrecked and it went way better than expected.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 24 2014 00:08 GMT
#1239
On March 24 2014 09:01 Ketara wrote:
I feel like the way you beat Heimer is just pick somebody who can outrange him, but I haven't played mid against this magic new Heimer yet.


And bring Smite.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 24 2014 00:17 GMT
#1240
Is there a way to see older statistics on Lolking? From what I can see, you can only go back less than a month.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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