[Patch 4.3] Vel'Koz General Discussion - Page 32

On March 03 2014 03:03 Slayer91 wrote:
i never said that
i said she was fat and that i prefer amumu

On March 03 2014 03:13 UmberBane wrote:
Wtf Bjergsen and his viewer numbers... There are tournaments who can feed a team of staff off those numbers. :o

On March 03 2014 03:16 iCanada wrote:
Why?

Sej has more CC, similar clears, a safer ult that does more damage and is a stun instead of a root in the same radius with a shorter CD and smaller Mana Cost.

Sej also much much better at catching people being derpy. Sej can Q->R from 1900 range, Mumu is restricted by only the 1100 on bandage toss, and if he lucky maybe 1650 if they standing in a creep wave or something.

Sejuani can also wall hop reliably, and has significantly more Teamfight presence once ults have been used. Mummy just has bandage toss ult, then he kind of runs around trying to be annoying. Sej gives your AD carry Ashe frost Arrows without them having to be Ashe. Good luck trying to catch the Lucian with a Sej Peeling.

On March 03 2014 03:17 AsnSensation wrote:


yeah his chill sunday afternoon stream has double the viewers the sc2 IEM cologne which was a pretty sick tournament, just incredible xD

On March 03 2014 03:15 Crusnik wrote:
KTB didn't exactly look that strong at Masters, but ehhh, they should be able to win a few games hopefully. I would have much preferred KTA, SKT S, or CJ Blaze personally, but Insec's continued return to the jungle will be interesting to watch.

On March 03 2014 03:16 iCanada wrote:
Why?

Sej has more CC, similar clears, a safer ult that does more damage and is a stun instead of a root in the same radius with a shorter CD and smaller Mana Cost.

Sej also much much better at catching people being derpy. Sej can Q->R from 1900 range, Mumu is restricted by only the 1100 on bandage toss, and if he lucky maybe 1650 if they standing in a creep wave or something.

Sejuani can also wall hop reliably, and has significantly more Teamfight presence once ults have been used. Mummy just has bandage toss ult, then he kind of runs around trying to be annoying. Sej gives your AD carry Ashe frost Arrows without them having to be Ashe. Good luck trying to catch the Lucian with a Sej Peeling.

On March 03 2014 03:30 UmberBane wrote:
Man, this is quite the price.

https://twitter.com/TLdisciple/status/440175910373695488

On March 03 2014 03:30 UmberBane wrote:
Man, this is quite the price.

https://twitter.com/TLdisciple/status/440175910373695488

On March 03 2014 03:19 wei2coolman wrote:

Because you can global squishies with Amumu.
And Amumu's clear is better, especially first clear. Pre-6 ganks are better, strictly speaking.
Also, range of engage for their ulti's should almost never be done at full range. 1900 range ulti combo for Sej is fucking useless, unless your team is far ahead of you, in that case what the fuck are you doing behind the rest of your team?

On March 03 2014 03:42 iCanada wrote:


Amumu's ganks pre-6 aren't better.

o.o

All mummy has pre-6 is Bandage toss and red buff slow. Sej has a much easier Q to land because Sej is fat (thanks teut), and then she has her own perma slow and Red buff slow. As a jungler, you have more options to your gank as Sej than with
Amumu. As Amumu you kind of need to wait for them to use an escape before your press Q. Basically have to catch them out of position. As Sej you can derp at them and then even if they flash they still have 50-70% slow on them.... if you in good position you can also wait for them to flash before you knockup too.

More options = good. Sej has an ability to be cute getting around wards too similar to Zac, Shaco, J4, and Vi.

That, and unless you level Q first full Azingy style, Sej has a lower CD on her Q.

All the while, Sej gets free Tencity and Armor and Mummy gets MR shred on auto-attack. i think Sej passive strictly better.

And I never said to engage full fights from 1900 range. Say their team is mid, or doing drag, and then they have one derper top clearing a wave going a touch too far. If you are Mumu, guy gets away. If you are Sej, he is held down so your Support, top, or mid laner can CC him and suddenly you have a huuge advantage from that pick. I think thats strong. Ofcourse using your ult from 1900 range 5 on 5 is bad.

On March 03 2014 03:42 iCanada wrote:


Amumu's ganks pre-6 aren't better.

o.o

All mummy has pre-6 is Bandage toss and red buff slow. Sej has a much easier Q to land because Sej is fat (thanks teut), and then she has her own perma slow and Red buff slow. As a jungler, you have more options to your gank as Sej than with
Amumu. As Amumu you kind of need to wait for them to use an escape before your press Q. Basically have to catch them out of position. As Sej you can derp at them and then even if they flash they still have 50-70% slow on them.... if you in good position you can also wait for them to flash before you knockup too.

More options = good. Sej has an ability to be cute getting around wards too similar to Zac, Shaco, J4, and Vi.

That, and unless you level Q first full Azingy style, Sej has a lower CD on her Q.

All the while, Sej gets free Tencity and Armor and Mummy gets MR shred on auto-attack. i think Sej passive strictly better.

And I never said to engage full fights from 1900 range. Say their team is mid, or doing drag, and then they have one derper top clearing a wave going a touch too far. If you are Mumu, guy gets away. If you are Sej, he is held down so your Support, top, or mid laner can CC him and suddenly you have a huuge advantage from that pick. I think thats strong. Ofcourse using your ult from 1900 range 5 on 5 is bad.

On March 03 2014 04:01 Sufficiency wrote:
Amumu is definitely not an ult bot. With maximized CDR, his Q has 6 seconds cooldown; he is more than capable of sticking to his target (at least one that does not have an escape, like Ashe Jinx Varus etc.). You ccan zone people really hard while his W + E does a shitload of damage in conjunction with his passive.