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[Patch 4.3] Vel'Koz General Discussion - Page 30

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 03:20:06
March 02 2014 03:19 GMT
#581
literally the only time I would ever pick ashe is if the other team picked nid

helps that most nid comps come with cait and ashe does pretty well vs cait in lane
I come in for the scraps
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 02 2014 03:30 GMT
#582
On March 02 2014 12:11 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 12:09 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Ashe is decent. Obviously her laning phase is... well, "average", but she is fairly strong against many fotm top laners that do not have a lot of gapclosers.


So, trundle?


Mundo Shyvana
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 02 2014 04:07 GMT
#583
On March 02 2014 12:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 12:11 Gahlo wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:09 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Ashe is decent. Obviously her laning phase is... well, "average", but she is fairly strong against many fotm top laners that do not have a lot of gapclosers.


So, trundle?


Mundo Shyvana

Pretty sure Ashe can't do a lot of kiting against those two
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 02 2014 04:16 GMT
#584
On March 02 2014 09:58 Cheap0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 08:46 JazzVortical wrote:
On March 02 2014 07:51 Gorsameth wrote:
On March 02 2014 07:47 739 wrote:
I got the promotion to Silver IV after winning 2:1, is that possible? :3

ehm thats normal. only from bronze to silver, silver to gold ect is best of 5.

I swear I remember my promotion from bronze to Silver being best of 5. Interesting.

Vel'Koz bundle: Worth it? I got some RP from the promotion. Should I spend it on him?


From my experience so far, he's pretty good, especially with a comp that has synergy with him and can lockdown/slow enemies so he can get the most out of his ult. The damage on that laser is nuts.

Thanks, ended up getting it. He's the sort of mid laner I enjoy playing, so I really like him.

That laser is just insane. I really like this one from Riot.
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 04:18:36
March 02 2014 04:17 GMT
#585
On March 02 2014 13:07 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 12:30 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:11 Gahlo wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:09 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Ashe is decent. Obviously her laning phase is... well, "average", but she is fairly strong against many fotm top laners that do not have a lot of gapclosers.


So, trundle?


Mundo Shyvana

Pretty sure Ashe can't do a lot of kiting against those two


Mundo can be hard, trundle and shyvana aren't really.

EDIT: also, if I just want to whip shit all day, how bad is AD Vel'Koz?
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
March 02 2014 04:29 GMT
#586
when did this TF pick a card change come in THIS SHIT IS GREAT
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
March 02 2014 04:35 GMT
#587
This patch get with the times.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 02 2014 04:54 GMT
#588
On March 02 2014 12:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 12:11 Gahlo wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:09 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Ashe is decent. Obviously her laning phase is... well, "average", but she is fairly strong against many fotm top laners that do not have a lot of gapclosers.


So, trundle?


Mundo Shyvana

lol, yeah no. Ashe gets fucking butt rekt by Mundo and Shyv.
liftlift > tsm
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 02 2014 05:12 GMT
#589
wat teh fuck null sphere no longer silences LMAO
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 05:13:04
March 02 2014 05:12 GMT
#590
On March 02 2014 14:12 FinestHour wrote:
wat teh fuck null sphere no longer silences LMAO

#KassFinallyUnbannedStatus

It should just be 1 sec at Rank 1.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 02 2014 05:12 GMT
#591
On March 02 2014 13:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 12:30 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:11 Gahlo wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:09 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Ashe is decent. Obviously her laning phase is... well, "average", but she is fairly strong against many fotm top laners that do not have a lot of gapclosers.


So, trundle?


Mundo Shyvana

lol, yeah no. Ashe gets fucking butt rekt by Mundo and Shyv.


Mundo isn't hard, but you are depended on someone positioning correctly to block the cleavers. For Shyvana you obviously need to avoid having her smashing onto you with her R; her W only lasts 3 seconds unless she autos.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 02 2014 05:14 GMT
#592
On March 02 2014 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 14:12 FinestHour wrote:
wat teh fuck null sphere no longer silences LMAO

#KassFinallyUnbannedStatus

It should just be 1 sec at Rank 1.


Poor Kassadin. A flash on a 3 second cooldown, but he can't escape the ban police.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 02 2014 05:15 GMT
#593
On March 02 2014 14:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 13:54 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:30 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:11 Gahlo wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:09 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Ashe is decent. Obviously her laning phase is... well, "average", but she is fairly strong against many fotm top laners that do not have a lot of gapclosers.


So, trundle?


Mundo Shyvana

lol, yeah no. Ashe gets fucking butt rekt by Mundo and Shyv.


Mundo isn't hard, but you are depended on someone positioning correctly to block the cleavers. For Shyvana you obviously need to avoid having her smashing onto you with her R; her W only lasts 3 seconds unless she autos.

Shyv does more than fine against Ashe, Burst with R+BotRK+W+E+Q, should wreck an Ashe, maybe needs like a follow up spell from your AP carry. Playing anything without escape is just an iffy proposition. One of the main reason Koreans avoid Jinx despite dem ratios.
liftlift > tsm
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 02 2014 05:18 GMT
#594
On March 02 2014 13:17 TheHumanSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 13:07 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:30 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:11 Gahlo wrote:
On March 02 2014 12:09 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Ashe is decent. Obviously her laning phase is... well, "average", but she is fairly strong against many fotm top laners that do not have a lot of gapclosers.


So, trundle?


Mundo Shyvana

Pretty sure Ashe can't do a lot of kiting against those two


Mundo can be hard, trundle and shyvana aren't really.

EDIT: also, if I just want to whip shit all day, how bad is AD Vel'Koz?

Knock up, slow, ult does insane damage anyway. Slightly low range (525). S tier AA animation.

I'd put it slightly below AD Malzahar.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 05:27:58
March 02 2014 05:20 GMT
#595
and they give kass 3s flash, nothing can go wrong with that LOL
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 02 2014 05:22 GMT
#596
we have no idea how to balance kassadin and we have no intention of listening to suggestions made by smart people
heres a void fizz skin to get your attention
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 02 2014 05:35 GMT
#597
On March 02 2014 14:22 FinestHour wrote:
we have no idea how to balance kassadin and we have no intention of listening to suggestions made by smart people
heres a void fizz skin to get your attention

I'm pretty sure Riot has a delete button. They should just use it.
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 02 2014 05:52 GMT
#598
So, just for some lols, check this out.

These new Kassadin numbers, with an ROA and Archangel and not counting his regen at all.

If he hits a champ with his R>W every time, he can do it 10 times in a row without running out of mana.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 02 2014 05:58 GMT
#599
Sounds like they wanted to make a melee version of Ryze. But with a point-blank gapcloser.... yeah....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 06:21:59
March 02 2014 06:06 GMT
#600
On March 02 2014 14:22 FinestHour wrote:
we have no idea how to balance kassadin and we have no intention of listening to suggestions made by smart people
heres a void fizz skin to get your attention

Definitely related.

Something amusing noted by Reddit. When Fiddles fears an ulting Yi, he rockets off in the other direction because he can't be slowed.
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