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[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 7

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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 04:02:42
February 11 2014 03:44 GMT
#121
Oh boy, I just started and ARAM. Got Jayce with Janna on my team. Infinite wave clear/poke. GfugginG.

e. Won so fast I didn't even fully stack Muramana.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 11 2014 04:21 GMT
#122
so is perseverance worth investing 3 points after the nerf?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 11 2014 04:23 GMT
#123
On February 11 2014 12:33 suicideyear wrote:
Marcel Feldkamp ‏@CLG_dexter 3h

Now people have the urge to tell me I would be nothing without fans, hilarious. I do care about fans but I play this game to win and not 1/2

Marcel Feldkamp ‏@CLG_dexter 3h

to be a fan-favorite.. I won't act differently or fake my attitude just to get more fans. Deal with it - I play to win. 2/2


"i play to win"

but he joined CLG?

I don't get your point? Clg is probably the best team that was looking for a jungler.
liftlift > tsm
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 11 2014 04:33 GMT
#124
inb4 "omg khazix gutted" or something retarded.

not sure what skarners ult means, does that mean you cant flash it anymore?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 11 2014 04:46 GMT
#125
When's patch time in NA?
liftlift > tsm
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 11 2014 04:48 GMT
#126
On February 11 2014 09:21 AlterKot wrote:
I thought Rengar got nerfed pretty badly, I wasn't able to do anything with him lately. But I played vs Rengar as Mundo today, stayed even or ahead throughot the laning phase but somehow I wasn't able to deal with him 1v1 at any point (early he would just harras me with e so I couldn't get in melee range and later he just outsustained me). Eventually he started roaming, got fed and had more influence on game than me. Any idea why that happened and how can I prevent it in the future? He was buliding damage first, getting doran blades and longswords early and only started building tanky after getting bonetooth + hydra I believe, throwing last whisper somewhere in the meantime.

Rengar nerfs not as big of a deal as people make them out to be, which is like every other champ honestly.

Just means you cant charge Q and walk around forever, which there was no need to do anyways honestly.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
February 11 2014 05:05 GMT
#127
On February 11 2014 08:09 Yezzus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 08:04 Eppa! wrote:
While i guess it depends on your level i definitely think Cait is the best ADC currently with Jinx nerfs, she destroys almost all lanes except with leona support.


Very debatable


So why don't you uhhh debate it?
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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 11 2014 05:22 GMT
#128
On February 11 2014 14:05 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 08:09 Yezzus wrote:
On February 11 2014 08:04 Eppa! wrote:
While i guess it depends on your level i definitely think Cait is the best ADC currently with Jinx nerfs, she destroys almost all lanes except with leona support.


Very debatable


So why don't you uhhh debate it?



Because I haven't seen one post from Yezzus that contributes anything to this forum since he joined. Don't expect it anytime soon.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 11 2014 05:44 GMT
#129
Gragas will probably be single most contested pick this patch IMO. I mean he already was one of the most picked/banned but with Kayle nerf and the fact that he's now being played top lane he fills three roles and is just crazy strong at all of them.

What I saw on PBE that didn't make it into this patch were pretty sizeable nerfs though so it remains to be seen how good he'll be after his nerfs come in.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 11 2014 05:49 GMT
#130
I'm pretty convinced that Gragas Q does too much damage, but that's just me.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 11 2014 05:51 GMT
#131
On February 11 2014 14:49 Ketara wrote:
I'm pretty convinced that Gragas Q does too much damage, but that's just me.

Not to mention that obnoxious attack speed slow
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 06:09:00
February 11 2014 05:58 GMT
#132
If it's soloQ I think we can just look at the statistics for ADCs.

By eyeballing at the win % trend for soloQ platinum (I chose plat because I think plat players are reasonably good to play all champions acceptably and there are more of them than diamonds so less variance), Jinx, Sivir, and Draven are around 53% right now. Caitlyn is only around 49% and about the same as Ashe.

EDIT: Of course Caitlyn is pretty strong competitively right now, as we have seen since early S3. But I have never been able to be convinced of her soloQ powers. It's kind of similar to playing (dare I say) AP Sion or Garen; your laning phase is really strong but you fall off pretty quickly too.

EDIT2: I am not sure if Ashe will become fotm with this patch, but I think she'll be decent enough to be a good pick in soloQ. Beside her horrid laning phase I think she has a lot of things going for her; the E changes means she will be getting quite a bit more gold than before and the 40 seconds E at level 18 is pretty broken. Also she is pretty strong against the meta right now - she is actually pretty good at dealing with Mundo and Shyvana provided she has someone to support her.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 11 2014 06:03 GMT
#133
Seems every patch the formatting for each change takes up more and more of my screen for no good reason. I can't believe that at this point I'm missing the days of text-only notes where Riot just didn't say why they changed anything except for the implied "this had to be nerfed".
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 11 2014 06:11 GMT
#134
On February 11 2014 14:49 Ketara wrote:
I'm pretty convinced that Gragas Q does too much damage, but that's just me.

imo oriannas Q+W does too much dmg
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 11 2014 06:11 GMT
#135
Skarner worth picking up with this re-work? Cus from my eyes I am not seeing anything overly super duper awesome about it except the rooting a R target.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 06:15:54
February 11 2014 06:15 GMT
#136
On February 11 2014 15:11 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 14:49 Ketara wrote:
I'm pretty convinced that Gragas Q does too much damage, but that's just me.

imo oriannas Q+W does too much dmg


I think Gragas's Q does a lot more damage than similar non-ultimate AOE spells. 285 base damage (WTF?!) and 0.9 AP (WTF?! that's more than most ultimates). It is not that easy to hit though.... so there's the trade off....

On February 11 2014 15:11 Parnage wrote:
Skarner worth picking up with this re-work? Cus from my eyes I am not seeing anything overly super duper awesome about it except the rooting a R target.



Play him and tell me
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 11 2014 06:17 GMT
#137
On February 11 2014 13:33 arb wrote:
inb4 "omg khazix gutted" or something retarded.

not sure what skarners ult means, does that mean you cant flash it anymore?


khazix gutted on twisted treeline
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
February 11 2014 06:48 GMT
#138
On February 11 2014 15:11 Parnage wrote:
Skarner worth picking up with this re-work? Cus from my eyes I am not seeing anything overly super duper awesome about it except the rooting a R target.

everything about his kit except for his ult seems worse to me, they split his damage and his CC between his Q and his E so you can only skill up one or the other (and your slow that you probably can't level up first anymore can't even be reapplied), they lower the MS buff on his W if someone pops your shield during the first half of it, and just in case you were still looking forward to the skarner rework, because of the Q/E split you have a much bigger trade-off for leveling your W to increase your tankiness and mobility.

i don't know, maybe it all works out much better in practice than it seems on paper because of how strong his ult is, but i am highly skeptical.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 11 2014 06:58 GMT
#139
2 challengers and a diamond in my wotd ARAM

Lol
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
February 11 2014 07:06 GMT
#140
So how do you get the other Lunar Revel icons? Cause I've done a fair bit of SR, Arams, and even a few Dominions and the only one I have is the Horsey one.
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