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[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 6

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JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
February 11 2014 01:29 GMT
#101
I forgot Skarner was getting reworked, I was preparing to delve into lots of top lane AP Skarner. Then patch notes. Oh well.
Stealing Nashor Podcast - http://stealingnashor.libsyn.com | Stupid build enthusiast
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
February 11 2014 01:35 GMT
#102
Spectating a buddy of mine and a guy named NeoIlussions is in his game.
Platinum Support GOD
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 01:41:56
February 11 2014 01:38 GMT
#103
I feel like if they buffed the first 9 defensive tree and nerfed the next 21, ad's would be in a pretty good spot. A bit more survivability to be less afraid of mundo aoe/annie dmg/ etc. and the tanks a BIT more manageable.

As it is, I'm still gonna stick to the top lane because I feel so much more impactful than when I play AD, despite my half-decent ad mechanics.

My other qualms lie in no changes to Grags (his sustain mainly is unreal), Kass, Vi, and Elise... I'm interested by the new introductions but it seems like no problems have been fixed, and now we gotta wait a month or more before the next patch x.x
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
February 11 2014 01:45 GMT
#104
Cool, now I'm a full 3 GD's behind lol.

Mundo cleaver change is a buff as well.
@miicah88
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 11 2014 01:50 GMT
#105
It's way easier to juke this way, so not really unless you're a sniper trying to get the squishy/lane opponent between the 2 frontliners/minions.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 11 2014 01:50 GMT
#106
On February 11 2014 09:35 Alaric wrote:
Managed to get a Vi game in, went Lizard -> Bruta (with boots in between) then tanky, I know Kha'Zix's damage is supremely dumb against isolated targets (happened often as I just zoned people to the side of the fight then died because slows too stronk and bugged Q screwed me over) but I still felt way too vulnerable. I guess golem->bruta is the way to go, or lizard->straight tanky. I'll have to play some more games and re-read the last pages of the thread so I can update it for s4.

The key is Black Cleaver. Once you build that you unlock the secret of why Vi is hideously overpowered right now.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 11 2014 02:02 GMT
#107
On February 11 2014 10:50 Alaric wrote:
It's way easier to juke this way, so not really unless you're a sniper trying to get the squishy/lane opponent between the 2 frontliners/minions.


I wonder if the range is minimally reduced now at the tip by however many fractions of a teemo, or if they actually really just squeezed the line.
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 11 2014 02:16 GMT
#108
If I built BC before finishing my tanky shit Kha'Zix would have straight-up 3-shot me.
Outlasting Shyvana when they had him and we had Nidalee in full frontal teamfights was much more fun.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 11 2014 02:18 GMT
#109
On February 11 2014 07:36 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 07:08 anonemouse wrote:
how do i improve at adc? i've been spamming games recently, after being placed into silver1 and ending last season at gold1. my teamfighting is alright, laning just seems a lot tougher this season with leona/thresh/blitzcrank in almost every game. i get hooked once by any of those three and i'm pretty much dead. im considering running cleanse against leo/thresh/annie all the time so getting hit by one skillshot doesn't mess up the entirety of laning phase


These videos helped me a lot with my ADC and Support.






If you already know all this stuff, then you may just be noticing that ADC's can't carry as hard as they could last season.

I actually have an easier time winning games as Nami and Lulu than I do as ADC, even when I'm fed to high heaven. I also think there's been a shift in ADC tiers. I carried into high silver as Cait last season after giving up on MF, but since the start of season 4 Cait hasn't been so easy to carry with, while my MF stats have actually improved. Maybe you need to learn some new ADCs?


I didn't watch everything, but is this guy silver or something? Although in his defense his ping is pretty bad.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 11 2014 02:19 GMT
#110
save the R to kill him.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 11 2014 02:31 GMT
#111
On February 11 2014 08:53 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 08:51 FinestHour wrote:
if u spend ur hard earned money on heartseeker ashe skin and that renekton one it will go towards saving euw servers guaranteed

Pls winning go4lols in your shitty country is the way to go huehue


wowowowowo
we invented freedom ok
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 11 2014 02:32 GMT
#112
On February 11 2014 11:31 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 08:53 nafta wrote:
On February 11 2014 08:51 FinestHour wrote:
if u spend ur hard earned money on heartseeker ashe skin and that renekton one it will go towards saving euw servers guaranteed

Pls winning go4lols in your shitty country is the way to go huehue


wowowowowo
we invented freedom ok

I thought we bought it when it was on sale?
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 02:37:45
February 11 2014 02:36 GMT
#113
On February 11 2014 11:16 Alaric wrote:
If I built BC before finishing my tanky shit Kha'Zix would have straight-up 3-shot me.
Outlasting Shyvana when they had him and we had Nidalee in full frontal teamfights was much more fun.


It all depends upon what enemy team you're going up against. If you expect to deal with 1 or 2 tanky champs then go Lizard - Bruta into 1 tank item into BC into tank. If you are vs. mainly squishies or a Kha, you can either go Golem - Bruta into tanky or Lizard - 1 tank item - Bruta - 2nd tank item - BC. The roughest one (and most common) is Mundo/Shyv top + Kha jungle. In that case you really need to see how the flow of the game is going. Like if you can snowball top or mid then go Lizard - Bruta - 1 tank item - BC. If you start to fall behind go Golem - Bruta into tank. If you go even go Golem - Bruta - 1 tank into BC into full tank.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
February 11 2014 03:14 GMT
#114
Azingy on Dignitas as a sub?

Oh man. INC jungle Karth and AP amumu.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 03:44:44
February 11 2014 03:19 GMT
#115
+ Show Spoiler +

lol
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 11 2014 03:22 GMT
#116
On February 11 2014 10:29 JALbert wrote:
I forgot Skarner was getting reworked, I was preparing to delve into lots of top lane AP Skarner. Then patch notes. Oh well.


It probably works better now than it would have before..

You get a ranged slow now, as well as a much better shield and improved ratios.

o.o
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
February 11 2014 03:33 GMT
#117
Marcel Feldkamp ‏@CLG_dexter 3h

Now people have the urge to tell me I would be nothing without fans, hilarious. I do care about fans but I play this game to win and not 1/2

Marcel Feldkamp ‏@CLG_dexter 3h

to be a fan-favorite.. I won't act differently or fake my attitude just to get more fans. Deal with it - I play to win. 2/2


"i play to win"

but he joined CLG?
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 11 2014 03:36 GMT
#118
Oh wtf. I was in a game then I dc'ed... I relogged and my game just disappeared.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
February 11 2014 03:39 GMT
#119
rip na servers
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 11 2014 03:41 GMT
#120
On February 11 2014 12:39 aurawashere wrote:
rip na servers


Didn't even get exp from the game. Sigh.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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